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India to train Afghan Forces.

You do realize what "Trainers" imply don't you? It means stationing our troops on a foreign soil. Now the number of troops or equipment that can be stationed there under the name of "training" are quite limitless. I sincerely hope we as a nation, are prepared for this.

If India wants to attain a permanent seat in UN security council then India must take such proactive steps. India is now having the capability to involve itself to such activities. This will not only enhance India's image as a trustable and reliable partner but also help India to get favorable approval from around the world. Also it would help India to have access to untapped resources of Afghanistan by new trade route Afgan-Iran-India. This is very much required to counter China's expansion plan. It will always in the interest of India to have a stable Afghanistan. Who knows it could become India's string of pearls to counter Pakistan or china some day
 
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I was watching NDTV and it was reporting on equipping ANSF too; if that's true any idea what are those equipments?
 
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I was watching NDTV and it was reporting on equipping ANSF too; if that's true any idea what are those equipments?

Thats a wonderful update brother, I really hope to see equipping the Afghan forces ranging from Bullets to Aircraft's , its quite possible to adopt the policy of Gifts and Soft Loans.
 
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Afghanistan signs pact with India, irking Pakistan

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NEW DELHI (AP) — Afghanistan signed a strategic partnership with India on Tuesday, a move likely to enrage neighboring Pakistan at a time when its relations with the Afghans and the West are sharply strained over alleged links of its spy agency to militants blamed for high-profile attacks across the border.

The Pakistanis consider India their chief adversary in the region, and the two countries have fought three major wars since the two were carved out of British India in 1947.

The strategic pact is Afghanistan's first with any country, and its timing sparked speculation of a shift in regional alignments after Afghan President Hamid Karzai chastised Pakistan for failing to act against Taliban-led insurgents based in Pakistan.

The announcement in New Delhi came as an Afghan government commission investigating the assassination of the country's former President Burhanuddin Rabbani accused Pakistan of not cooperating, after alleging that Pakistani intelligence officials also had advance knowledge of the plot.

Pakistan says it is cooperating and denies involvement in the Sept. 20 killing of Rabbani, who was trying to broker peace with the Taliban. Its spy agency has been accused of backing the Taliban-linked Haqqani network, blamed for a series of attacks in Afghanistan including a recent assault on the U.S. Embassy and NATO headquarters in the capital, Kabul.

Karzai had said over the weekend he was giving up on negotiating with the Taliban directly, and accused Pakistan of doing little to help rein in terrorists.

It's an allegation familiar with Indians, who blame Pakistan-based insurgents for the 2008 Mumbai attacks that killed 166 people and accuse Islamabad of doing little to bring the perpetrators to justice.

After meeting Tuesday, both Karzai, who was educated in India, and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh spoke about the need for regional peace and prosperity, saying their countries envision a shared future free of extremism and violence.

"Afghanistan recognizes the danger that this region is facing through terrorism and the radicalism that's been used as an instrument of policy against civilians, against innocent citizens of our countries," Karzai told reporters.

But he also emphasized the need for broad regional cooperation, saying his country would "aspire to a life that is free of violence, and will seek cooperation and understanding from the members of this region, including our other neighbors."

Singh emphasized the countries' historical and cultural links and said the two leaders discussed terrorism in detail. "The people of Afghanistan have suffered enough. They deserve to live in peace and decide their future themselves, without outside interference, coercion and intimidation," Singh said.

The strategic partnership — "based on mutual understanding and long-term trust" — outlines areas of common concern including trade, economic expansion, education, security and politics.

The two sides also signed deals to boost cooperation in mining, oil and gas.

"Afghanistan will benefit from India's expertise," Karzai said, while thanking India for years of economic aid without conditions.

The timing of Karzai's visit, which followed days of sparring with Islamabad, was a coincidence, analysts said, noting the countries upgraded his trip to a bilateral meeting only after Karzai agreed to deliver a lecture Wednesday at a New Delhi event organized by a think tank.

Karzai had softened his tone on Monday by asking again for Pakistan's help in bringing terrorists to task. The allegations, coupled with the calls for continued help, illustrate Afghanistan's frustration in trying to end a decade of fighting that began with the U.S. invasion after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks: Even as Pakistan has ties to groups behind the insurgency, it would be of central importance in any effort to bring about a negotiated peace.

Analysts said that negates the speculation about a strategic realignment, even though the friendship with India was bound to grow as the U.S. looks to scale back its military presence in the region over the next few years.

"Everybody keeps options open depending on how the solution evolves," said a former Indian diplomat in Pakistan, G. Parthasarthy, adding that it would serve no one's interest for Afghanistan and India to join together in snubbing their volatile neighbor.

"That sort of pressure would only unite people in Pakistan behind the military, and we don't exactly love the military," Parthasarthy said. "The Afghans are pragmatic people. There is a dependence on Pakistan they can't wish away," including the need for access to the sea, he said.

Afghanistan and Pakistan have long been uneasy allies against the Taliban insurgency, largely because of a long history of Pakistani governments backing insurgents as a way to keep a check on Afghan administrations.

India's policy on Afghanistan, meanwhile, has been to support international action led by the United States over the past decade while staying out of political and security issues so as not to antagonize Pakistan.

However, the U.S. has signaled a readiness over the past year for India to play a more active part.

"The U.S. is now willing to let India play a larger role in Afghanistan, and certainly Afghanistan wants it," said analyst Lalit Mansingh, a former Indian foreign secretary and ambassador to Washington. "After years of being sidelined, India is now regarded very much as part of the solution."


Afghanistan signs pact with India, irking Pakistan - seattlepi.com
 
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If india is serious about building up and strengthening the the military capacity of Afghanistan then it must allocate atleast 0.5 % of its GDP to ANA budget which will take care of buying offensive weaponry and And increasing the size of ANA so that they themselves can guard their eastern border and deter any external threat.
 
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Once Chabbar port will be operational, It would easy for trade/supply to Afghanistan through Iran.

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Also, Tajikistan airbase will be very helpful.

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Oman-Iran-India sea gas line will happen in future.

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Afghanistan now has an excellent highway link Delaram - Zaranj constructed by the Indian BRO that links Chahbahar in Iran a port that was also constructed by the Indians.


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If india is serious about building up and strengthening the the military capacity of Afghanistan then it must allocate atleast 0.5 % of its GDP to ANA budget which will take care of buying offensive weaponry and And increasing the size of ANA so that they themselves can guard their eastern border and deter any external threat.

If your country Pakistan is serious then stop supporting Taliban to destroy Afghanistan.

Why you ashamed of your country flag ?
 
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India does have huge experience in guerrilla warfare. Afghans stand to gain, i suppose...

Actually they can teach us a thing or two about guerrilla warfare. What ANA lack is in the expertise to fight like a modern army and I think thats where Indians step in.
 
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It will be interesting to see, what the US, ISAF & Co couldn't achieve with all their fire-power and high tech gadgets, how India will be able to fill that vacuum, specially after the US Security umbrella gets withdrawn.
 
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I thought India's role in Afghanistan was being curtailed?

U know Pakistanis thought that too.. I remember all of them were jumping when India was not invited by Turkey on regional discussion on Afghanistan...But these Pakistanis might have forgotten that we come from the land of Chanakya..we might take a step back but we will back come back with such a force that our enemies will not know what hit them(u can see the latest news discussions in Pakistani media...they are seething with anger..sometimes iam feeling pity for them..but most of the time iam laughing my @$$ of seeing their reactions:flame:)..
 
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Once Chabbar port will be operational, It would easy for trade/supply to Afghanistan through Iran.

chabahar_gwadar.gif


Also, Tajikistan airbase will be very helpful.

mtajik.gif


Oman-Iran-India sea gas line will happen in future.

Oman%20to%20India%20Pipeline%20Route%20Survey.jpg


Afghanistan now has an excellent highway link Delaram - Zaranj constructed by the Indian BRO that links Chahbahar in Iran a port that was also constructed by the Indians.


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Even Have a look at the map the map from chabahar you 've to enter south Afghanistan if you wish to use Zaranj-Delaram highway(constructed by India) connecting zahedan(iran) or you have to go north to Turkmenistan and enter Afghanistan from there as southern Afghanistan is totally under taliban control. btw one good news for you is:


Indian built Zaranj-Delaram highway under Taliban control

The Zaranj-Delaram highway in Afghanistan built by India and handed over to the Afghan government on January 22, 2009 is now under Taliban control.:lol: Within two years of the commissioning of this strategic highway, Taliban effectively dominates this road link, which has in turn allowed it to take control of the Nimroz province.

The Zaranj-Delarm road, on the main Herat-Kandahar Highway, constructed by thousands of Indian nationals in the face of stiff resistance from Taliban was meant to be one of most long lasting and visible symbols of India’s commitment to Afghanistan’s reconstruction and rebuilding of its nationhood.

But the unwillingness of the ISAF to provide security cover to this strategic highway and the inability of the Afghan National Army to secure Indian investments and projects has led to a colossal waste of Indian funds earmarked for Afghanistan’s development. India’s reluctance to commit troops on the ground to secure Indian development projects has led to the winding down of several projects that were received with tremendous enthusiasm by Afghans.

A Taliban press release dated January 15, 2011 clearly details Taliban’s control of the Nimroz province and, thereby, the Zaranj-Delaram Highway. This dry-desert province located in south eastern Afghanistan shares its borders with the Balouchistan province of Pakistan in the South and also shares its Western borders with Iran.

The Zaranj-Delaram highway links Nimroz’s provincial capital in Zaranj city to one of its districts, Delaram. The other districts are as follows—Chakhansor, Khashrod, Gank, Charbarjak. Currently, the de facto ruler of this province is Maulavi Abdul Rasheed. The Taliban describes him as the “head Jihadi military leader of Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in charge of Nimroz province”.

The Taliban take-over of the ambitious Zaranj-Delaram road project, India’s plan of providing Afghanistan with a shorter route to the sea, via the Iranian port of Chabahar, has been derailed.:rofl: The strategic importance of this road was to make Afghanistan current access to the sea coast through Pakistan commercially meaningless and irrelevant. On its part Iran is building a new transit route to connect its city of Milak to Zaranj in Afghanistan, and has already completed an important bridge over the Helmand River.

Once finished, the road projects in Iran and Afghanistan would have shortened the transit distance between Chabahar and Delaram by over 600 kilometres giving Afghan goods duty-free access to the Iranian port.

India, too, would have enjoyed similar benefits as Afghanistan at Chabahar port and for transit. But the forty year old Maulavi Rasheed, brought up in a Jihadi/Mujahid household in the Disho district of Helmand province, has successfully grounded the ambitious plans of the Indian policy makers.:D

The Maulvi studied Jihadi theology in a madrassa and was also trained as a terrorist learning weapon handling, fabricating IEDs and guerrilla warfare. Maulvi Rashid, a Balouch by birth, has taken part in Jihadi operations in Nimroz, Helmand, Kandahar, Kabul, Kapisa, Baghlan, Faryab and Kunduz provinces and has been wounded twice in Kapisa’s Koh-e-Safa and Faryab’s Khwaja Doko districts.

After the killing of his guru Maulavi Mahmood four years ago, Maulvi Rasheed took over as Taliban chief in Nimroz. In his January 2011 press release he described the Jihadi situation in the Nimroz province as follows: “Nimroz provincial capital along with all 5 districts have been covered by our Mujahideen groups who have been able to take complete control of Delaram and Khashrod districts but not the district centers.

Our Mujahideen are also carrying out regular guerilla attacks in Chakhansor and Gank districts and we are hopeful to Allah Almighty that he will also grant us a complete victory there soon.”

According to the Taliban the American troops have virtually vacated Nimroz province and are currently concentrated in the provincial headquarters in Delaram, which also has a small airfield. Besides this the US forces have an outpost in the Dahmazang area and a small contingent in the Zaranj city. They had an outpost in Khashrod’s Ghor Ghori area, which has been abandoned recently.

Ever since the Zaranj-Delaram road was commissioned in 2009, the American forces found it convenient to move men and material along this route. But with the Taliban taking control of this strategic highway, American military operations in Nimroz have been badly hit.

Maulvi Rasheed’s statement on the Taliban’s control of roads in the Nimroz province is as follows: “We have also been successful in closing logistical routes of the enemy (read United States) and in some areas have become an obstacle for them. The main road between Delaram and Khashrod has been closed for a very long time and Mujahideen also control many of the other roads. The Americans only dare to pass in huge convoys and only when accompanied by airpower.”

Taliban’s plan over the last two years seems to have been well thought out. While they withdrew and consolidated, they quietly allowed the reconstruction and rebuilding work to take places, especially in the road building sector. Except for some sporadic attacks on foreign road building crews, including couple of attacks on Indian road-builders, the Taliban seem to have allowed the road building activities to happen unhindered, especially in the south and south-west regions, which have been their traditional areas of strength in terms of their popular support base.

With the completion of the initial spurt of road building activities in the region, the Taliban effortlessly took over control and used these roads to rapidly deploy its guerrilla fighters. In fact, the Taliban has already established an “Islamic Emirate” in Delaram and Khashrod districts of Nimroz province and surrounding area by appointing the following officials–“Governor, District Deputy, Judge, Commission as well as heads for Education and Guidance.”

According to Maulvi Rasheed’s statement: “The people of Nimroz have embraced Mujahideen in recent years even more than before due to understanding the nature and false propaganda of democracy which the enemy spreads. The enemy is often trapped in their headquarters and when they do come out for an operation, they bomb the area and create an atmosphere of fear in hopes of achieving some progress. These types of enemy operations have caused immense damage to the lives and property of civilians in Nimroz, especially to the people of Khashrod district. The day to day achievements of Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate is related directly to the full support we garner from the people.”

In the context of these developments the long-term strategic objectives of New Delhi, Washington and Kabul must be severely scrutinised and questioned. What is the point of investing billions of dollars in the reconstruction of Afghanistan, if New Delhi and Washington cannot collaborate to protect the development related infrastructure? Also what’s the point of developing infrastructure that could be easily appropriated and used by the Taliban as has been embarrassingly revealed in the take-over of the Zaranj-Delaram Highway by the Taliban.

Several other Indian projects have quietly folded up in the face of threats by the Taliban. :woot:In fact, after the attack on the Indian Embassy in Kabul in 2008 the speed at which Indian projects are winding down clearly displays the Indian establishment fear of the Taliban. An Indian Classical Music Teaching project in Kabul supported by the Indian Council for Cultural Relations (ICCR) was shut down. This was a popular project amongst Afghan youngsters. Another project supported by the CII and headed by a former Indian army officer imparting various trade skills to Afghans was shut down after a Taliban threat.

Other way i suggest you to enter afghanistan is that if india has any guts left then capture P0K,NA and land upto chitral and enjoy direct border and land route to Northen Afghanistan ;)
 
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America didn't spend hundreds of Billions of dollars to just withdraw from Afghanistan. Majority of the troops might withdraw, but America will be running the show in Afghanistan for a long time now.

Everything else is just wishful thinking.
 
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Afghans should not be working with these people who start communal riots and burn muslim children alive in calcutta, ayodhya and gujrat
 
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