India suspicious as Chinese submarine docks in Sri Lanka

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Very true. How can others regard India as the superpower if it has to constantly involve the US when dealing with its neighbors.

It just doesnt have the choice, before India was relying on Soviet to back them up "moralely" when dealing with China but now Russia is on neutral stand so only way to face China is to drag US into the discussion so to make the India-China thread become a US-China issue so Indians will feel more secure and expect to get away unharmmed .

 

[DingDong]

Very true. How can others regard India as the superpower if it has to constantly involve the US when dealing with its neighbors.

US has been trying to involve us. Go cry in front of Obama.

 

[GR!FF!N]

For the underline, yes the counter move is need to tell India that we will not be deterred by your sugar diplomacy with Japan or Vietnam, India can go ahead and do what ever it wants, PLAN present in Indian Ocean will ensure the freedom of our merchant ships that 80% of our oil import through this road and to reinforce our friendship with SA nations, India navy will never dictate ever this region.

I thought China don't even bother about these countries.your keyboard warriors already dropped several nukes on this countries,already won battle against USA,sunk their supercarriers and became No. 1 Superpower.why do you even have to care about these puny states???

but one serious note,If India want,India can enforce a blockade in IOR without much effort.but as you can see,we don't make fly by over Chinese subs,don't tail Chinese Intelligence Ships or don';t buzz Chinese Ship's radio.because we believe in "FREEDOM OF NAVIGATION". on the contrary.......well,I've already posted about China..right??

 

[Jlaw]

It just doesnt have the choice, before India was relying on Soviet to back them up "moralely" when dealing with China but now Russia is on neutral stand so only way to face China is to drag US into the discussion so to make the India-China thread become a US-China issue so Indians will feel more secure and expect to get away unharmmed .

Modi ji go to US to beg. End of story.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I thought China don't even bother about these countries.your keyboard warriors already dropped several nukes on this countries,already won battle against USA,sunk their supercarriers and became No. 1 Superpower.why do you even have to care about these puny states???

but one serious note,If India want,India can enforce a blockade in IOR without much effort.but as you can see,we don't make fly by over Chinese subs,don't tail Chinese Intelligence Ships or don';t buzz Chinese Ship's radio.because we believe in "FREEDOM OF NAVIGATION". on the contrary.......well,I've already posted about China..right??

Lol blockade in IOR a neighbor that's not 300 miles from your capital, you wouldn't dare to touch any of our merchant ships, you can only fantasize this blockade theory to other small & weak nations but not even close to seriously contemplate to be applied that on China.

 

[American Pakistani]

Indian Ocean is not Indian's ocean, the present of Chinese sub is to make sure of this.

We won't mind if it is called Chinese Ocean.

On a serious note China should build up it's navy in the Arabian Sea and Bay of Bengal region. Co-operation with regional countries like Myanmar, Bangladesh, SriLanka and Maldives should be strong.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

True. But China is not very smart to send a diesel electric sub to Indian ocean. For the distance covered, it should send a nuclear sub. Otherwise, the sub is where the refueling tanker going to be. To track that sub, just track the tankers. lol

China has limited number of nuclear Submarines and those for strategic purposes only. It would be a massive blunder to send one of such a visit, impacting China's second strike.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

We won't mind if it is called Chinese Ocean.

On a serious note China should build up it's navy in the Arabian Sea and Bay of Bengal region. Co-operation with regional countries like Myanmar, Bangladesh, SriLanka and Maldives should be strong.

Lol calling Chinese Ocean is bit too much for us but if it's called Pakistani Ocean, we will gladly to accept that , as for the present of Chinese Navy in India Ocean, I think this is just a baby step but China will not stop there, we will find the way to have much more military cooperation with the mentionned nations including Pakistan and Chinese Navy will be there more frequently. A string tie amoung SA countries and China will only be a win-win for all of us.

 

[GR!FF!N]

Lol blockade in IOR a neighbor that's not 300 miles from your capital, you wouldn't dare to touch any of our merchant ships, you can only fantasize this blockade theory to other small & weak nations but not even close to seriously contemplate to be applied that on China.

don't know what you meant(Possibly because you couldn't form a proper sentence or you're using some translator).but it is pretty obvious that we can.see,within few hundred km of our maritime boundary(one is infact just next to our boundary),there are 3 choke points,from where most of your merchant ship goes.plus,perhaps you don't know,Pakistan also had same kind of attitude some times back.after we sunk some of their merchant ships,their attitude changed.

Choke Points.............

perhaps you don't know,but it doesn't take much resource to initiate a blockade.even our ICG with their resource is more than enough to create one.but it'll need IN to sustain one for a long time.

China has limited number of nuclear Submarines and those for strategic purposes only. It would be a massive blunder to send one of such a visit, impacting China's second strike.

probably it needed some repair or replenishment.or may be its just a port call.but like some SL member posted in another thread,he said it'd be a major blunder for SL if its anything but a simple port call.

China says sub made stopover in Lanka | Colombo Gazette

PLA spokeperson said its a SONG Class sub,which probably escorted PLAN fleet which engaged in Anti Piracy mission.

 

[American Pakistani]

Lol calling Chinese Ocean is bit too much for us but if it's called Pakistani Ocean, we will gladly to accept that , as for the present of Chinese Navy in India Ocean, I think this is just a baby step but China will not stop there, we will find the way to have much more military cooperation with the mentionned nations including Pakistan and Chinese Navy will be there more frequently. A string tie amoung SA countries and China will only be a win-win for all of us.

You know what bro, actually the name Indian Ocean came from the Pakistani river Indus. All these names like India, Hindu, etc came out of the Pakistani province of Sind/Sindh/Sindhu.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

don't know what you meant(Possibly because you couldn't form a proper sentence or you're using some translator).but it is pretty obvious that we can.see,within few hundred km of our maritime boundary(one is infact just next to our boundary),there are 3 choke points,from where most of your merchant ship goes.plus,perhaps you don't know,Pakistan also had same kind of attitude some times back.after we sunk some of their merchant ships,their attitude changed.

Choke Points.............

perhaps you don't know,but it doesn't take much resource to initiate a blockade.even our ICG with their resource is more than enough to create one.but it'll need IN to sustain one for a long time.

What I was trying to get at is your capital city is only few hundred miles from our border, if you think the blockade to harm our economy and you can just get away? you might not take too much resource to do the blockade but we do have cheap solutions to creeping then the entire Indian economy as well : all your vital economic life line cities are within our cheap rocket, artilleries while you have to use long range expensif tactical missile to reach our coastal cities.

And I have said many time and remind you again, you possesse a geographical advantage such as choke points, but we do have a weapons that Indians are so resentful to see us apply to you: water, you can choke our merchant ships, we will dehydrate half of your population...that will be a fair deal.

ultimately we have cheap rocket + artilleries solution combine the hydro weapon to balance your choke points advantage.

 

[GR!FF!N]

What I was trying to get at is your capital city is only few hundred miles from our border, if you think the blockade to harm our economy and you can just get away? you might not take too much resource to do the blockade but we do have cheap solutions to creeping then the entire Indian economy as well : all your vital economic life line cities are within our cheap rocket, artilleries while you have to use long range tactical missile to reach our coastal cities.

Blockade generally gets used when already a Full Scale War is going on or about to begin.so,please keep this argument to yourself.Blockade is an effective way to cripple opponent's economy,especially if that is a energy hungry nation like China.it generally takes Physical presence to lift a blockade.and about the "Capital City",gone those days when capturing,burning or sacking capital city would be considered as major victory.remember about your own war against Japan itself.its a long way before War gets over.

And I have said many time and remind you again, you possesse a geographical advantage such as choke points, but we do have a weapons that Indians are so resentful to see us apply to you: water, you can choke our merchant ships, we will dehydrate half of your population...that will be a fair deal.

ultimately we have cheap rocket + artilleries solution combine the hydro weapon to balance your choke points advantage.

you mean,Water War,right??see,Water is not much of a concern for India than other states like BD.if China block water of Brahmaputra,it'd affect BD more than India itself.plus,India is a country of rivers.Brahmaputra is one of major rivers,not only major river.and we don't even drink from Brahmaputra,if it may help you.LOL.

so,you have nil advantage on us.take an estimate.2 month of Naval Blockade vs 2 month of Water Blockade.estimate the loss.then we'll talk again.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Blockade generally gets used when already a Full Scale War is going on or about to begin.so,please keep this argument to yourself.Blockade is an effective way to cripple opponent's economy,especially if that is a energy hungry nation like China.it generally takes Physical presence to lift a blockade.and about the "Capital City",gone those days when capturing,burning or sacking capital city would be considered as major victory.remember about your own war against Japan itself.its a long way before War gets over.

you mean,Water War,right??see,Water is not much of a concern for India than other states like BD.if China block water of Brahmaputra,it'd affect BD more than India itself.plus,India is a country of rivers.Brahmaputra is one of major rivers,not only major river.and we don't even drink from Brahmaputra,if it may help you.LOL.

so,you have nil advantage on us.take an estimate.2 month of Naval Blockade vs 2 month of Water Blockade.estimate the loss.then we'll talk again.

you think the blockade will really gonna harm our economy? we have pipeline from central Asia and Russia, we don't put all eggs on same basket, plus we have strategical reserve and oil field in Xinjiang that can be put into use during the war time but I can't say the same about India, if we decide to retaliate "conventionally", a single 300$ rocket with GPS guide can pull any of your vital structure out of comission such as bridge, water treatement plant, offical buildings...India infrastrctures will become a turkey shoot and As for the New delhi, you think your gorverment will still able to gorvern India while seeing chinese rocket fly over their head?

As for the water, not only brahmaputra but your sacred river as well, if we decide to block any tributary rivers that merge to Ganges, it requires only a drop of 2% to 5% of water level to spread the chaos and panics amount 600 millions users of this river

and if you think oil is more important than water then try to deprivate yourself for 1 day of water, then come to chat over again

 

[GR!FF!N]

you think the blockade will really gonna harm our economy? we have pipeline from central Asia and Russia, we don't put all eggs on same basket, plus we have strategical reserve and oil field in Xinjiang that can be put into use during the war time but I can't say the same about India, if we decide to retaliate "conventionally", a single 300$ rocket with GPS guide can pull any of your vital structure out of comission such as bridge, water treatement plant, offical buildings...India infrastrctures will become a turkey shoot and As for the New delhi, you think your gorverment will still able to gorvern India while seeing chinese rocket fly over their head?

As for the water, not only brahmaputra but your sacred river as well, if we decide to block any tributary rivers that merge to Ganges, it requires only a drop of 2% to 5% of water level to spread the chaos and panics amount 600 millions users of this river

and if you think oil is more important than water then try to deprivate yourself for 1 day of water, then come to chat over again

again,some BS...

lets discuss the point...

you've some pipelines..yet,most of your oil comes through sea.and its over 90%.

second..you probably don't know,but we've our strategic reserves as well.we've some 2 and 1/2 month's strategic oil reserve and its expanding....

Crisis management: India to set up four more strategic oil reserves, petroleum minister Dharmendra Pradhan says - The Times of India

but I don't know why it is relevant because we're discussing China under blockade and not India.

third,there is no Chinese weapon which India doesn't have.you can shove your guided rockets in your @r$3 as I'm not interested to dikc measuring.we've our own AGM,Guided Missile,Laser Guided Shells as well as rockets.

fourth,Indian Govt can use any city as their Capital as needed,if our Capital is under attack.again,I already said that this age is Cyber Age.you don't have to remain in Capital to rule your country.

next....
Ganga??seriously???dude,you're delusional as hell...

Ganges - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and dude,we use ground water as drinking water(most of us.we barely use water from river as it is poluted.instead,some parts of India use well,pond or other means.I never saw someone using water from ganges as drinking purpose as it is too polluted for that purpose).

so,lets discuss this topic when you become sober and atleast gain more insight that qualifies you to make some statement...

 

[Daedalus]

Only Indian media can make such a big hue and cry about this, just to instigate Indian people against China.
This is a common practice among all the Navies to give a friendly port visits, just like Indian warship docked in shanghai a few months back.
The submarine is on its way to Gulf of Aden on an Anti-Piracy Patrol.
中国潜艇停靠斯里兰卡港口补给休整是通行做法(图)_网易新闻中心