India selects EF, Rafale for MMRCA shortlist

[Kinetic]

You decide....


Rafale

Eurofighter Typhoon

 

[SpArK]

On 17th March 1998 an agreement was concluded between Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and Dassault Aviation authorizing HAL to offer its Mirage 2000 major inspection facilities to global customers.

Currently, it is the only organization authorized to undertake major inspection of Mirage 2000 Aircraft outside France for global customers.

The management of these maintenance activities is through sophisticated computer systems with extensive interaction between the user and the maintenance agency through the electronic medium.

The Mirage 2000 major inspection line is equipped with modern ground support, ground handling equipment and testers conforming to the specifications of M/s Dassault Aviation. The line is supported by a host of highly skilled technicians and qualified Engineers, trained at M/s Dassault Aviation as well as at other original equipment manufacturers of the various systems.

Logistics management include computer based vertical storage system for kit marshal stores and mobile storage system for spares. Environmental control for LRU storage has been incorporated to meet the advanced technology requirements.

The Overhaul Division is the approved repair agency for carrying out major servicing of Jaguar Aircraft and its accessories. All the three versions namely Strike, Trainer and Maritime undergo major servicing at the Overhaul Division.

The Division also undertakes the compliance of the Company Special Technical Instruction (CSTI), Company Service Instruction (CSI) developed by HAL and compliance of modifications as per Standard Of Preparation (SOP).

http://www.hal-/Overhaul/services.asp

I think this facility will be upgraded.

 

[Abingdonboy]

^^So our government will obviously pick EF. 2 years from now, we will have 4 planes and then constant delays after that. HAL will build one every year citing various "delays" in production, none of which is because of them. 6 years from now, one EF will drop from air and they will blame Europeans for supplying poor parts. And we be constantly plagued by maintenance problem.

WTF are you getting this from? Yes this problem plagued Russian a/c in IAF service but that was because at the time USSR was India's only option. Now the world (and winning bidder) is aware that India will take nothing but the best and if that doesn't happen I'm sure there will be safeguards in the contracts accordingly. Anyway if EFT wins they have already said that they will set up a full production line in India and so spares shouldn't be a proboblem as they will be made in India by Indians for Indain Air Force.

 

[JayAtl]

RAFALE:
R-Rocking
A-Admirable
F-Fabulous
A-Adorable(Not for enemies though!)
L-Luster
E-Eternity.

G
A
Y

 

[Abingdonboy]

it would be better if they make half and other half is made by the respected companies so the process of induction can be fast

You decide....


Rafale

Eurofighter Typhoon

I have to say it is a very hard choice. Now that it is only Europe involved (so geopolitics is out the window) I hope that the MoD listens to IAF experts who know WTF they're talking about. If this is what happens then I have no doubt the plane that enters IAF service will be the one that best suites the IAF's needs and tactics.

 

[SpArK]

@ Kinetic .. Already decided..

 

[SR 71 Blackbird]

G
A
Y

Yes I am Gay to Rafale but not any one else.

 

[jdme]

WTF are you getting this from? Yes this problem plagued Russian a/c in IAF service but that was because at the time USSR was India's only option. Now the world (and winning bidder) is aware that India will take nothing but the best and if that doesn't happen I'm sure there will be safeguards in the contracts accordingly. Anyway if EFT wins they have already said that they will set up a full production line in India and so spares shouldn't be a proboblem as they will be made in India by Indians for Indain Air Force.

You are assuming that European consortium is not only going to supply their production line, they are going to send their own workers to run it too. And maintenance crew too. Whatever we buy, it will ultimately be assembled and maintained by Indian defense setup. Just like DRDO, you are just blaming Russians for everything. DRDO and ilks here are the problem since they are totally inept at their job. You just wait and watch.

 

[SpArK]

G
A
Y

Stay away from Rafale fans Mr JAY

 

[justanobserver]

You are assuming that European consortium is not only going to supply their production line, they are going to send their own workers to run it too. And maintenance crew too. Whatever we buy, it will ultimately be assembled and maintained by Indian defense setup. Just like DRDO, you are just blaming Russians for everything. DRDO and ilks here are the problem since they are totally inept at their job. You just wait and watch.

DRDO=/=HAL

 

[T90TankGuy]

i belive it will be the EF not the rafale.

 

[Abingdonboy]

You are assuming that European consortium is not only going to supply their production line, they are going to send their own workers to run it too. And maintenance crew too. Whatever we buy, it will ultimately be assembled and maintained by Indian defense setup. Just like DRDO, you are just blaming Russians for everything. DRDO and ilks here are the problem since they are totally inept at their job. You just wait and watch.

Actually in recent years the Indian defence industry has had BILLIONS invested in it and with MILLIONS of engineering students graduating each year India's defence industry is improving year on year (qualtity and quantity) yes there are still some major challenges but India will get there. And just look- the Mirage 2000H inducted in the 1980s, engineers in India given PROPER training by French and good supply of spares and I have not heard of a SINGLE incident of major safety mishap for these birds. The year is 2011 the world is a very different from 1980-90s, India is very different.

 

[Kinetic]

By the way, DRDO will "assemble" most of the planes. Might as well not buy these planes.

I am watching your posts and you do not know what you are talking about. So why make fun?

 

[Kinetic]

@ Kinetic .. Already decided..

bro, i am here, than who decided without my authority?

 

[blackops]

will it be this

OR
this