India ready to negotiate a global no-first-use nuke treaty

[Dillinger]

Even if India possess nuke, it is the delivery of the nuke that matters.

There are mainly to two to do it; missiles or airdrops.

In order to be delivered by missiles, the nuke has to miniaturized. India has no tech to achieve that.

Airdrops are too risky and slow.

So to say India has no nuke is pretty accurate.

Yes, that is why the payload parameters were keyed in when a BM was developed. Pray tell, do you think an SSBN is being sent out for HATS for show? Miniaturization is not the difficult issue, validation of physics package is. Depending upon the design of the bomb (boosted fission, implosion, thermonuclear) the physics package, boosting mechanism (tritium preferably for a TMN), triggering are validated- after which they are immensely scalable- albeit a 200Kt+ TMN for MIRVs will require a prolate primary which is out of our reach atm. The warheads are sufficiently miniaturized to be carried by the current arsenal of BMs in our inventory.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Even if India possess nuke, it is the delivery of the nuke that matters.

There are mainly to two to do it; missiles or airdrops.

In order to be delivered by missiles, the nuke has to miniaturized. India has no tech to achieve that.

Airdrops are too risky and slow.

So to say India has no nuke is pretty accurate.

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[armchairPrivate]

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Well what can I say. The Indians so far have not shown they are credible.

You can blow your trumpets all you want.

 

[Trev]

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Well what can I say. The Indians so far have not shown they are credible.

You can blow your trumpets all you want.

Using rhetoric and sarcasm is all well and good but Dillinger has already provided you with an explanation.

 

[armchairPrivate]

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Where is the evidence? Hard evidence.

 

[ares]

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Where is the evidence? Hard evidence.

For a minute lets forget about miniaturization? How big do you think is a full bodied few hundred KT thermonuclear weapon is??

 

[armchairPrivate]

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If done right, not big.

When you doing the test with all the necessary equipment, it could be as big as a house. The trick is to make the nuke compact enough to fit into the warhead.

Do the Indians have the tech to do it?

I guess we will know when the times comes when the red button is pushed.

 

[ares]

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If done right, not big.

When you doing the test with all the necessary equipment, it could be as big as a house. The trick is to make the nuke compact enough to fit into the warhead.

Do the Indians have the tech to do it?

I guess we will know when the times comes when the read button is pushed.

Do Pakistanis, Chinese, French , Russian or British have nukes compact enough to mounted on a missile? where is the hard evidence..have you seen any nuclear tipped missiles being tested anywhere in the word. The only nuclear weapons used in war were dropped by air plane ..so where is hard evidence that any nation in the world have the miniaturization tech.

All you have is some unsubstantiated rumors(after all no govt in the world reveals the type warheads they have) that they have it?

So where is the hard evidence?

 

[armchairPrivate]

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Well, I cannot say for sure for the Chinese and the Pakistani since their nuke tests were very limited and rudimentary at time. And no further tests were made because of the world opinions.

But the US and the Russians had many tests. I am certain they have tested their nukes in compact form. So I am confident their nukes will blow.
However I am not certain the multi warhead missiles will work *the key word is certain* because they required miniaturization. But then again with the supercomputer simulations, they (the US and the Russians) are quite confident the multis will work.

The whole nuke scenario is like poke game. No one knows until it blows.

 

[rafiqali]

Whats the point of all this speculation? The hard facts are -

1. India's nuclear weapon tech is largely untested. Cheerleaders may go on shouting from rooftops, but Computer simulations are not the same as real thing.

2. Computer simulations can help only after the tech is mature and frozen - it is for simulating yields, not for simulating tech. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know the first thing about nuclear.

3. There are serious doubts about the TN. Whats the point of behaving like an ostrich? and where is the dishonour in a failure? Weapon tests fail all the time.

4. Miniaturized nukes are possible, but totally unreliable without extensive testing.

5. Pak's arsenal is probably more reliable - being a tech transfer from China

If Modi gets to be PM, the single most important thing for him would be to resume bomb and nuke missile testing. But it is doubtful he could do that because business lobbies will be scared of reaction from Western nations.

 

[Gentelman]

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Well, I cannot say for sure for the Chinese and the Pakistani since their nuke tests were very limited and rudimentary at time. And no further tests were made because of the world opinions.

But the US and the Russians had many tests. I am certain they have tested their nukes in compact form. So I am confident their nukes will blow.
However I am not certain the multi warhead missiles will work *the key word is certain* because they required miniaturization. But then again with the supercomputer simulations, they (the US and the Russians) are quite confident the multis will work.

The whole nuke scenario is like poke game. No one knows until it blows.

There is just one world for your whole speech……
Move on and have some knowledge on nuclear cold Test…

 

[rafiqali]

There is just one world for your whole speech……
Move on and have some knowledge on nuclear cold Test…

Cold tests are only for yield, not for the tech. It is useful only after your basic technology is frozen after several real tests.

 

[armchairPrivate]

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That is the thing. Cold test is simulation. It is NOT real.

Would you fly a plane that was only wind tunnel tested and computer simulated? Only a fool would. Are you a fool?

 

[Thorough Pro]

Nuclear-weapon free world after initiating the nuclear tests, and very irresponsible blatant naked threats by its immature politicians stirring a nuclear race in the region, now after realizing that they have actually created problems for themselves by having two nuclear armed rivals in the neighbourhood, they have come out waving white flags........

India doesn't even have thermonuclear weapons

Trying so hard to be shupa-powah in 2030?

 

[Gentelman]

Cold tests are only for yield, not for the tech. It is useful only after your basic technology is frozen after several real tests.

I thought you have basic nuke tech……
Cold test can be done without testing coz its safe and more secure and secrate to check out the nuke technology,working and true potential after mature development.