India pressuring Bangladesh to sign defense treaty

[idune]

India Bangladesh to sign Defence Pact this month

Wednesday, December 07, 2016

India and Bangladesh may sign a pact during Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina’s upcoming visit to expand bilateral defence partnership.

Officials said both sides are looking forward to expanding security ties as part of the growing strategic partnership.

Hasina is set to arrive in India on December 17 for a four-day trip, her first official visit since the Narendra Modi-led NDA government assumed power in May 2014.

The secretary level talks in Delhi between the two sides on Monday and Tuesday will be followed by the visit of the Bangladesh Navy chief this week, a precursor to signing the defence deal.

Security and border management issues were discussed during the home secretary level talks along with the issue of counterterrorism, officials said.The last such meeting was held in November 2015 in Dhaka.

The Bangladesh Navy chief is due to visit India from December 7, a week after the visit of India’s defence minister to Dhaka.

A few ago India and Bangladesh had set a template for other countries in maritime dispute resolution through peaceful means under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. There have been suggestions on how China can follow this model to address its disputes with smaller Southeast Asian neighbours in the South China Sea region.

Bangladesh now wants to expand its partnership with the Indian Navy even as it decided to purchase two submarines from China. Areas of naval cooperation that have been proposed include option of coordinated patrolling along International Maritime Boundary Line, bilateral exercises involving the two navies, joint surveillance of Exclusive Economic Zone and cooperation in hydrography.

Hasina is scheduled to hold talks with Prime Minister Modi on December 18 on issues including the pending Teesta water sharing pact. Since 2015 she has visited India twice, for the funeral of President Pranab Mukherjee’s wife and for BRICS-BIMSTEC outreach meets.

http://www.defencenews.in/article/F...ladesh-to-sign-Defence-Pact-this-month-159440

Yes Yes.. no wonder you Jammatis were the very first to congratulate and send best wishes to Modi on victory from BD!

It is customary and civilized political practice to congratulate an election winner of a neighboring country. Terrorist mentality of awami league DOES NOT subscribe to civilized political practice. Hope you can see reflction of yourself properly now.

 

[rome333]

@idune Jammatis now only belong to the dust of our history. Our future will only know that once there was a Terrorist group named Jammat i lslam who got their arse wipped so bad that they got no where to run. Your time is up and Jammat is Expired.

 

[bluesky]

India Bangladesh to sign Defence Pact this month
Wednesday, December 07, 2016

Sir @idune, you have posted a Dec. 7, 20016 old Indian Economic Times news to support Holiday's bla bla bla talking. Please send some genuine news to prove your point. Otherwise, you only become a source of gossip. Please understand!!

 

[idune]

Sir @idune, you have posted a Dec. 7, 20016 old Indian Economic Times news to support Holiday's bla bla bla talking. Please send some genuine news to prove your point. Otherwise, you only become a source of gossip. Please understand!!

you along with rest of awami thugs are getting restless seeing exposure of awami league trying to destroy what left of Bangladesh defense. That makes you and rest of awami league an anti Bangladesh and anti independence terrorists.

This is ongoing development and article above describes what indians know about ongoing indian effort and awami league involvement in destruction of Bangladesh defense.
Awami league, as per Bangladesh constitution, never disclosed terms of previous treaty signed with india, in Bangladesh parliament. So, it is expected to do the same anti Bangladesh act by destroying defense and not disclose that. It is awami league that has to disclose the terms and prove if media reports (which posted here) are wrong.

Go take issue with your godmother Hasina to prove these reports are wrong and ask mercenary army mouthpiece ISPR to state that there will be no such treaty with india. Then we will see.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Guys if hasina sign that deal. I am renouncing my nationality. It's better to live a free man with no state than a slaved man under a state

If that deal gives India freedom to conduct CS ops in Dhaka and put armed forces under their command that is

 

[Nilgiri]

any Bangladeshi label with jamat should be proud because it is only party or organization that is resisting indian occupation and interference. Indians know it by their heart.

Have a bigger cry that nothing was removed regarding you feeble whiney protest to the mods.

Just like danda from dada will never be removed from BD orifice , while it seems the BAL lot seems to enjoy that while you scream

Guys if hasina sign that deal. I am renouncing my nationality. It's better to live a free man with no state than a slaved man under a state

If that deal gives India freedom to conduct CS ops in Dhaka and put armed forces under their command that is

Excellent. Hope it goes through just to create the heartburn....and show how little heartburn (or even joy) will materialise among the regular BD sheeple on the street.

 

[Abingdonboy]

except one insult after the other...hegemony

. Joint Pak-Sino efforts to contain indian hegemony is the need of the hour.

You guys like to throw this around a lot when it comes to India except there is ZERO evidence of this. Instead you can point to countless examples of actual hemogenic seeking behaviour in other nations around; Sri Lanka where the Tamils were all but wiped out, Bangledesh that is driving out and persecuting the Hindus and of course last but not least Pakistan that has a long history of "tolerance", inheriting 20-25% minority population that is about 1% (if that) today where the Ahmadis are given exactly zero rights and everyone wanting a Pakistani passport has to declare that Ahmadis are not even Pakistanis. Pakistan has itself commited numerous GENOCIDES against its own people over the past 70 years, in an attempt to pursue its own hegemony.

Meanwhile India is the most free, pluralistic, secular and open nation in the entire region with 100s of different ethnic groups, dialects, every major religion represented and equality for ALL enshrined in its constitution (the enacting of this may leave a lot to be desired of course). What hegemony is it you think india is seeking/implementing? The one where India has a LARGER Muslim population than PAKISTAN?

India has of course had the means and the opportunity in the past (Op Cactus in Maldives 1988, IPKF in Sri Lanka, 1971 Bangledesh liberation war) but it has not even remotely tried to actually pursue a hemogenic policy despite the fact it easily could have, in each and every occasion it has gone in, helped the local population and ENTIRELY RETREATED.

But no, big bad evil India and its hemogenic plans, right?

Reminds me of the propoganda used against Israel, they have their "evil Jewy plans" and are a threat to all Muslims and the Arab world. When in reality all the wars they have fought have been DEFENSIVE, Israel is the most advanced, peaceful, stable, modern, democratic etc etc etc (I could list platitudes all day) and decent place in the entire Middle east responsible for 99% of the region's scientific conritbutions and within its borders it is home to people from every corner of the earth including its own content Muslim/ Arab community.Meanwhile Palestine is a typical hellhole that contributes little to the rest fo the world other than instability- sound like anyone else you know?

You guys are beyond delusional. Do you even know what the word "hegemony" means? It is the last word one could use to describe a nation such as India. It would be funny seeing this sort of overt nonsense coming from a newly joined out of his mind fanboy, but from a seasoned "Think Tank"- that's just sad.


@Nilgiri @Water Car Engineer @AUSTERLITZ @ni8mare @DavidSling @Vergennes @GuardianRED @Gessler @Bombaywalla @sathya @MilSpec @nair @Levina @SpArK @Centurion2016 @kurup @punit @hinduguy @JanjaWeed @Roybot

 

[LA se Karachi]

You guys like to throw this around a lot when it comes to India except there is ZERO evidence of this. Instead you can point to countless examples of actual hemogenic seeking behaviour in other nations around; Sri Lanka where the Tamils were all but wiped out

What on earth are you talking about?

And I'm not sure I would bring up Sri Lanka as an example if you want to counter the idea of Indian hegemony.

@Gibbs @Godman @HeinzG

Ahmadis are given exactly zero rights

What does that even mean? Ahmadis have essentially the same rights as all other citizens. All the government has done has declared them "non-Muslims". The only thing that this does is prevent them from becoming the leader of the country. I don't agree with it. However, only a handful of Muslims in the entire nation become the leader of the country anyway, and the Army carries out a (usually well-deserved) coup every now and then too.

Pakistan that has a long history of "tolerance", inheriting 20-25% minority population that is about 1% (if that)

Please stop repeating this lie over and over again. The Sikhs and Hindus of eastern Punjab were equally guilty of religious cleansing after the partition of the state:


1. The 21% figure that you are citing included both East Pakistan and West Pakistan.

2. West Pakistan had a Hindu population of 13-14% before independence (1947), not 21%

3. After independence and the partition of Punjab (where most Pakistani Hindus lived), almost all Hindus in western Punjab moved to India, and almost all Muslims in eastern Punjab moved to Pakistan. That's why the Hindu population dropped. It hasn't changed since then.

Before:

Partition:

After:

https://southasiablog.wordpress.com/


Since independence, and the religious population shift that resulted from it, the Hindu population of Pakistan has remained roughly the same (it's increasing slightly):

And, the Hindu population of Pakistan will continue to grow a bit as a share of the population due to their higher birth rates than Muslims:

Meanwhile India is the most free, pluralistic, secular and open nation in the entire region with 100s of different ethnic groups, dialects, every major religion represented and equality for ALL enshrined in its constitution (the enacting of this may leave a lot to be desired of course). What hegemony is it you think india is seeking/implementing?

Yes, it's a tolerant paradise, I'm sure. That's why things like 1984, 1992, 2002, and 2012 never happened (among other incidents). Not to mention all of the stuff that has been going on since 2014. I'm not saying Pakistan is perfect either, but I don't know how some Indians showcase their country as some sort of shining example of tolerance.

The one where India has a LARGER Muslim population than PAKISTAN?

No it doesn't. Pakistan surpassed it years ago:

India has of course had the means and the opportunity in the past (Op Cactus in Maldives 1988, IPKF in Sri Lanka, 1971 Bangledesh liberation war) but it has not even remotely tried to actually pursue a hemogenic policy despite the fact it easily could have, in each and every occasion it has gone in, helped the local population and ENTIRELY RETREATED.

Yes, 1971, Sri Lanka, and other operations are great examples of how India never gets involved in the affairs of its neighbors....

Reminds me of the propoganda used against Israel, they have their "evil Jewy plans" and are a threat to all Muslims and the Arab world. When in reality all the wars they have fought have been DEFENSIVE, Israel is the most advanced, peaceful, stable, modern, democratic etc etc etc (I could list platitudes all day) and decent place in the entire Middle east responsible for 99% of the region's scientific conritbutions and within its borders it is home to people from every corner of the earth including its own content Muslim/ Arab community.Meanwhile Palestine is a typical hellhole that contributes little to the rest fo the world other than instability- sound like anyone else you know?

Israel is the most "peaceful, stable, modern, democratic"? Lol, it is anything but. And why doesn't this "democratic" country offer citizenship to the Palestinians whose lands it is stealing in the West Bank? And I'm sure all the constant "settlement-building" is very peaceful, and "defensive" too. Also, this modern state seems to have some pretty un-modern laws in its Orthodox Jewish communities (which are growing rapidly). But of course, I'm sure it's only wrong when a Muslim country has such laws.

You guys are beyond delusional. Do you even know what the word "hegemony" means? It is the last word one could use to describe a nation such as India. It would be funny seeing this sort of overt nonsense coming from a newly joined out of his mind fanboy, but from a seasoned "Think Tank"- that's just sad.

Just to be clear, I'm not necessarily agreeing with what he said. Personally, as someone of Pakistani descent, I don't care what India does with Bangladesh, it's not my business. That's between their two countries and their respective citizens. However, with all due respect, your post is an utter disaster.

 

[bluesky]

Sri Lanka where the Tamils were all but wiped out, Bangledesh that is driving out and persecuting the Hindus and of course last but not least Pakistan that has a long history of "tolerance", inheriting 20-25% minority population that is about 1% (if that)--

Do not please keep on writing trash. SL had a war between the govt Sinhalese troops and Tamil. Was there any such war between the Muslims and Hindus of Bangladesh? Both sects are equal citizens. So, why are you talking about expelling the BD Hindus by the majority Muslims? Today, Hindu population in BD is more than 10%.

Why a little lower figure than before? It is mostly because the Hindus produce less children than we Muslims. This phenomena has been observed since the 1st population census in 1880. Muslim population was about 35% of the population in entire BENGAL Province. It rose above 50% before the 1947 partition. So, how do you explain this?

Better, you take heed to the alarm bell ringing by an increased Muslim population in India. It is almost 35% now and will top over 50% during the next decade. So, what are you going to do tackle the issue? We did not castrate our Hindus, but India may do it to their Muslim citizens. How peculiar and pathetic is the Indian mind!!!

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Do not please keep on writing trash. SL had a war between the govt Sinhalese troops and Tamil. Was there any such war between the Muslims and Hindus of Bangladesh? Both sects are equal citizens. So, why are you talking about expelling the BD Hindus by the majority Muslims? Today, Hindu population in BD is more than 10%.

Why a little lower figure than before? It is mostly because the Hindus produce less children than we Muslims. This phenomena has been observed since the 1st population census in 1880. Muslim population was about 35% of the population in entire BENGAL Province. It rose above 50% before the 1947 partition. So, how do you explain this?

Better, you take heed to the alarm bell ringing by an increased Muslim population in India. It is almost 35% now and will top over 50% during the next decade. So, what are you going to do tackle the issue? We did not castigate our Hindus, but India may do it to their Muslim citizens. How peculiar and pathetic is the Indian mind!!!

Not only that,Indian Hindu practice female foeticide which is not the case with Muslim or Christian.Most of the Hindu widow don't remarry unlike Muslim or Christian.Hindus also have higher Child mortality due to open defecation.All these things lower fertility rate. Rather than addressing these shortcoming Bhakts have a tendency to blame the normal reproductive behavior of other religious communities for their own declining population percentage.

 

[TopCat]

Not only that,Indian Hindu practice female foeticide which is not the case with Muslim or Christian.Most of the Hindu widow don't remarry unlike Muslim or Christian.Hindus also have higher Child mortality due to open defecation.All these things lower fertility rate. Rather than addressing these shortcoming Bhakts have a tendency to blame the normal reproductive behavior of other religious communities for their own declining population percentage.

And the huge conversion rate.
Every year 8 lakhs hindu converted to Islam or christianity in India.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...-to-either-christianity-or-islam_1843845.html

 

[Nilgiri]

And the huge conversion rate.
Every year 8 lakhs hindu converted to Islam or christianity in India.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...-to-either-christianity-or-islam_1843845.html

You are a fan of VHP propaganda?

 

[TopCat]

You are a fan of VHP propaganda?

No I am a fan of dwindling number of hindus.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...to-convert-are-Hindu/articleshow/51419977.cms

http://hinduismnow.org/blog/2016/02...eople-accept-christ-at-single-event-in-india/

 

[Nilgiri]

No I am a fan of dwindling number of hindus.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...to-convert-are-Hindu/articleshow/51419977.cms

http://hinduismnow.org/blog/2016/02...eople-accept-christ-at-single-event-in-india/

1. 1838 applications woooo!

2. "Hinduism now" wanna know who publishes this propaganda?

Muslim population in India is 35%? Source?

He's a conspiracy theorist that doesn't believe any census or such.

Probably wouldn't give a polio vaccine to his kid if he had the choice either.

 

[TopCat]

Muslim population in India is 35%? Source?

He probably meant Bengal and Assam

South India actually not considered as real hindus anyways by upper casted aryans.