India needs to ally with US to counter China: Fareed Zakaria to India Today at Davos

[nahtanbob]

When payoff is higher, INDIANS will be the first to jump ship.
That's how the East India Company enslaved a whole continent with JUST 3000 soldiers.
Indians will betray and assist the invading force to enslave their own in a jiffy.
THIS IS FACT, qualities engraved into their DNA.

They respect POWER and would rather help the invaders when that side shows signs of being the winning side.
Compare that with a weakened China who fought 8 LONG YEARS against a more modern and overwhelmingly superior militarily Japan of a million soldiers strong in China.

Best wishes to China in their endeavor, alone or otherwise, to break the Shackles of White Power.
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people can grown up where there are not going to trade white masters for yellow masters
people who expect history to repeat are the dumbest lot

 

[sinait]

people can grown up where there are not going to trade white masters for yellow masters
people who expect history to repeat are the dumbest lot

China even at the height of their naval power, did not seek to colonize the black or the brown people.
China occupied or claimed uninhabited islands but settle and trade with the locals.
NEVER TO ENSLAVE AND COLONIZE THE NATIVES.
There is abundant evidence that this is what happened in Sri Lanka and the Philippines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming-Kotte_War
Ming–Kotte War
The Ming–Kotte War was a military conflict between the expeditionary forces of the Chinese Ming empire with the Sinhalese Kotte kingdom, located in the southern territories of Ceylon. This conflict happened when Ming China's treasure fleet returned to Ceylon in 1410 or 1411.
It resulted in the overthrow of the then Sinhalese ruling house for the former royal family.

Philippines well known freedom hero, Jose Rizal is ethnic Chinese who helped the locals fight the Spanish invaders.
FAR CRY FROM WHAT THE EVIL WHITE PEOPLE DID.
The WHITE PEOPLE are still EVIL even though after getting immensely rich from exploiting their former colonies, found new and more subtle ways to still dominate their former minions and the world.

You are a good example of how they brainwash you to champion their cause to subjugate fellow Asians.
Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein found out too late, how powerful and deadly that can be.
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[nahtanbob]

China even at the height of their naval power, did not seek to colonize the black or the brown people.
China occupied or claimed uninhabited islands but settle and trade with the locals.
NEVER TO ENSLAVE AND COLONIZE THE NATIVES.
There is abundant evidence that this is what happened in Sri Lanka and the Philippines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming-Kotte_War
Ming–Kotte War
The Ming–Kotte War was a military conflict between the expeditionary forces of the Chinese Ming empire with the Sinhalese Kotte kingdom, located in the southern territories of Ceylon. This conflict happened when Ming China's treasure fleet returned to Ceylon in 1410 or 1411.
It resulted in the overthrow of the then Sinhalese ruling house for the former royal family.

Philippines well known freedom hero, Jose Rizal is ethnic Chinese who helped the locals fight the Spanish invaders.
FAR CRY FROM WHAT THE EVIL WHITE PEOPLE DID.
The WHITE PEOPLE are still EVIL even though after getting immensely rich from exploiting their former colonies, found new and more subtle ways to still dominate their former minions and the world.

You are a good example of how they brainwash you to champion their cause to subjugate fellow Asians.
Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein found out too late, how powerful and deadly that can be.
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past behavior is no template for future behavior. can i put it in simpler terms ??

you expect the world to trust China. you have to answer simple questions. what is basis for morality in China ?? how does chinese leaders and chinese society decide something is good or evil. i detect a sense of amorality in the behavior in chinese society. for all its flaws people of other cultures have trusted USA on numerous ocassions. Saudi royals in the 1930s, Chinese communist leaders in 1970s and Stalin in 1941.

as far as getting rich first world countries have created every new product from electronics to automobiles to medicines that defined the 20th century.

When have Saddam and Qaddafi been examples of virtue ?? they beat up on their countrymen for decades and treated their countries as personal kingdoms. their countrymen given a chance by outside powers finish not only Saddam and Qaddafi and but their entire families. I could read history. I will find countless examples.

 

[sinait]

past behavior is no template for future behavior. can i put it in simpler terms ??

you expect the world to trust China. you have to answer simple questions. what is basis for morality in China ?? how does chinese leaders and chinese society decide something is good or evil. i detect a sense of amorality in the behavior in chinese society. for all its flaws people of other cultures have trusted USA on numerous ocassions. Saudi royals in the 1930s, Chinese communist leaders in 1970s and Stalin in 1941.

as far as getting rich first world countries have created every new product from electronics to automobiles to medicines that defined the 20th century.

When have Saddam and Qaddafi been examples of virtue ?? they beat up on their countrymen for decades and treated their countries as personal kingdoms. their countrymen given a chance by outside powers finish not only Saddam and Qaddafi and but their entire families. I could read history. I will find countless examples.

Go study Confucius teachings.

Are you a KID?
Nations talk about self interest, NOT TRUST.
But there should be a level of decency in doing business.
Stop supplies that does immense harm to a private business that got caught up in a political war is DESPICABLE.
NOT SOMETHING that a nation controlling the world's financial system SHOULD DO.
THIS IS BETRAYAL OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.
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[nahtanbob]

Go study Confucius teachings.

Are you a KID?
Nations talk about self interest, NOT TRUST.
But there should be a level of decency in doing business.
Stop supplies that does immense harm to a private business that got caught up in a political war is DESPICABLE.
NOT SOMETHING that a nation controlling the world's financial system SHOULD DO.
THIS IS BETRAYAL OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.
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cut the crap kiddo. there is nothing private about any of the businesses in China

 

[sinait]

cut the crap kiddo. there is nothing private about any of the businesses in China

Seriously you are the real mccoy KIDDO.
You think too highly of the Chinese.
They too have personal ambitions and self interest.
They do not always act in the interest of the country.
Humans have a natural instinct to act in self interest.

Western economists cry out that State Owned Enterprises are inefficient and a nation needs the vibrant private companies to thrive.
When a private company comes along and excels, you will SCREAM "there is nothing private about any of the businesses in China".
Ever heard about Chaebols of Korea?
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[Nilgiri]

Bowing is not in China's nature

Whats all this then?

Just what happened in the next 50 odd years too...care to tell me?

You guys go too far in haughtily labeling others as servile, forgetting/dismissing your own past. You are no more or less servile than any other population on Earth....it just depends on circumstances.

 

[somsak]

The conduct of the Vietnam was mired in domestic politics. Iraq was the only real analogy in recent times.

I would ignore Lebanon in 1983, Syria in 2018, Somalia in 1991. they were minor intrusions.

If you look at other major American entanglements it is clear USA stands by its allies



I listed China's friends - North Korea, Pakistan, Myanmar
feel free to add anyone to the list

Domestic politics should have come after casualty of 200,000 men. In Asia, people fought war of this scale since ancient time. Basically the whole male population 15-40 would participate the war one way or another.

Thanks for your time. . My opinion ends here.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Fared Zakaria is nothing but a Hindu fascist masquerading as a Republican. Despite his name, he has done nothing except justify the WoT and demonize Pakistan.

 

[Avicenna]

Agree, I never took him too seriously. Still remember this interesting exchange between Zakaria and Putin a few years ago. You can see what he tried to say but he was lectured by Putin, hahaha.

There is another video in which he started off by saying China has been cheating the trade rule and all that. And then the guest (former US sectary of treasury) came along and said US benefited enormously from the trading relationship with China. He wasn't in a good shape, LOL.

Putin is the man! Zakaria was wilting like an old flower!

That being said....Trump has been a disaster.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

Whats all this then?

Just what happened in the next 50 odd years too...care to tell me?

You guys go too far in haughtily labeling others as servile, forgetting/dismissing your own past. You are no more or less servile than any other population on Earth....it just depends on circumstances.

See? We can both sling around demeaning pictures. The difference is that while both these things are in the past, China has cast off the chains of slavery while India still wears them - purely of its own volition. Just because it's jealous of China's rejuvenation, it will spitefully and maliciously do everything in its power to further the cause of white supremacy.

In fact, it's wrong of me to call countries like India and Japan slaves. Slaves at least have the dignity of knowing that their condition is evil and trying to escape it; I know of no word to describe the horror that is this mentally-colonized psyche. It's the human equivalent of parasitic brain worms:

 

[Nilgiri]

See? We can both sling around demeaning pictures. The difference is that while both these things are in the past, China has cast off the chains of slavery while India still wears them - purely of its own volition. Just because it's jealous of China's rejuvenation, it will spitefully and maliciously do everything in its power to further the cause of white supremacy.

In fact, it's wrong of me to call countries like India and Japan slaves. Slaves at least have the dignity of knowing that their condition is evil and trying to escape it; I know of no word to describe the horror that is this mentally-colonized psyche. It's the human equivalent of parasitic brain worms:

Nah real slaves are more like those that declare both flags Canadian, when one should clearly be PRC.

Your contention was that its not in the Chinese nature to "bow". Yet treaty of shimonoseki (And all that followed) clearly says otherwise....enforced upon you by those you now claim as "slaves". You could instead accept its not good to call anyone slave given pretty much everyones history at different points....but instead you follow middle kingdom complex that has been peppered with century of humiliation that has simply added to the current STRONK version of it. The more people disagree with you and point out your hypocrisy when it comes to self-stated superiority....the more angry and desperate you get. Its typical pavlovian/hive mind conditioning brought on by the ego hacking (be it Beijing, Shanghai, or Nanking) wrought on it earlier.

Its ironic you then point to claimed hive mind on others given the stereotype in parlance regarding China broadly found in the world....which you obviously know but again ignore here for the feelings....and let such expand to its fullest extent possible given the overall guarded "iron-brother" refuge afforded to you lot in this forum.

You just serve as amusement for everyone else when you indulge this frivolous complex too many of you have here.

 

[nahtanbob]

Fared Zakaria is nothing but a Hindu fascist masquerading as a Republican. Despite his name, he has done nothing except justify the WoT and demonize Pakistan.

it does not take a whole lot to demonize pakistan

 

[maximuswarrior]

It is funny how Indians who serve the white man since their birth are lecturing others LOL

it does not take a whole lot to demonize pakistan

It doesn't take a whole lot to beg Pakistan to do more either. Make up your mind so that we can start mince meating you again.

 

[nahtanbob]

It doesn't take a while lot to beg Pakistan to do more either.

what is the point in begging ? at least some get paid for begging