India must stop purchasing arms from Israel-AAP

[Diggy]

Not to say India should sever all ties with Israel. But I am simply saying do what is right. Support Palestine. Maintain good ties with Israel.


@tharkibuddha , @Prometheus, @jbgt90 , @Zebra, @The_Showstopper

how can we have good ties with israel by supporting palestine , would israel accept it . Better approach would be being sympathetic towards palestinians while having good ties with israel .

and its not about who wins or looses whats the guarantee that global jihadist groups like AQ don't setup a base in Azad Kashmir to raise a more aggressive militia to fight for the freedom of kashmir & drive away the infidel from a muslim land (this is how it worked in afg right) , at-least pakistan would want that no wonder why they were protecting OBL for these many years . What if the ummah backs it . A burning palestinian prob would at-least divert their attention and buy us more time to strengthen our-self in kashmir .

 

[rubyjackass]

how can we have good ties with israel by supporting palestine , would israel accept it . Better approach would be being sympathetic towards palestinians while having good ties with israel .

Israel has no choice. It is a pariah and has very few friends, especially when it comes to Palestine issue. Deep down even they understand that they are in the wrong. They need all the relations they can make. That is the reason they have been friendly with India(and many such countries) despite a hundred votes in UN against them.

and its not about who wins or looses whats the guarantee that global jihadist groups like AQ don't setup a base in Azad Kashmir to raise a more aggressive militia to fight for the freedom of kashmir & drive away the infidel from a muslim land (this is how it worked in afg right) , at-least pakistan would want that no wonder why they were protecting OBL for these many years . What if the ummah backs it . A burning palestinian prob would at-least divert their attention and buy us more time to strengthen our-self in kashmir .

I admit that is good logic. That is a dangerous possibility. But what happens if India actively supports Israel while they perpetrate acts like Gaza? India would be a target no matter what. India is already strong in J&K.


Many people internationally recognise that J&K issue is not at the same level as Palestine. Kashmiris have almost an independent country there. Pakistan has no locus-standi on the issue legally. India adopted a no-outside involvement strategy on J&K. This hard approach is what Pakistan is adamantly using to beat India with.

India has to settle the issue soon to avoid the danger above. My favourite approach to J&K is to wait till Geelani dies. Negotiate with Kashmiris and simply make an agreement bringing in most parties into the mainstream politics. Cut Pakistan out of the deal. The Kashmiri-Pakistani relationship has a faultline. Kashmiris want a unified J&K, Pakistan will be ok as long as it gets the valley i.e., they don't care about the unity of J&K. This is not exploited by India so far, mainly because India has been obsessively status-quoist and may be because mainstream Indian leaders do not realise how holy Kashmiri unity is in Kashmiri nationalism.

Also look into how some countries supported apartheid regime in South Africa and ended up on the wrong side of history. For India, this would mean a drastic loss of soft-power as some would call it.

 

[punit]

Israel has no choice. It is a pariah and has very few friends, especially when it comes to Palestine issue. Deep down even they understand that they are in the wrong. They need all the relations they can make. That is the reason they have been friendly with India(and many such countries) despite a hundred votes in UN against them.

I admit that is good logic. That is a dangerous possibility. But what happens if India actively supports Israel while they perpetrate acts like Gaza? India would be a target no matter what. India is already strong in J&K.


Many people internationally recognise that J&K issue is not at the same level as Palestine. Kashmiris have almost an independent country there. Pakistan has no locus-standi on the issue legally. India adopted a no-outside involvement strategy on J&K. This hard approach is what Pakistan is adamantly using to beat India with.

India has to settle the issue soon to avoid the danger above. My favourite approach to J&K is to wait till Geelani dies. Negotiate with Kashmiris and simply make an agreement bringing in most parties into the mainstream politics. Cut Pakistan out of the deal. The Kashmiri-Pakistani relationship has a faultline. Kashmiris want a unified J&K, Pakistan will be ok as long as it gets the valley i.e., they don't care about the unity of J&K. This is not exploited by India so far, mainly because India has been obsessively status-quoist and may be because mainstream Indian leaders do not realise how holy Kashmiri unity is in Kashmiri nationalism.

Also look into how some countries supported apartheid regime in South Africa and ended up on the wrong side of history. For India, this would mean a drastic loss of soft-power as some would call it.

GAZA AND PALESTINIAN will have never have any solution. its a bloody game between diff powers !

so what was indian army doing in the korea war helping western militaries kill north koreans, or when it was about to be sent to iraq in 2003 to help usa and britain kill iraqis??

whose war was it fighting??



george habash, founder of pflp ( popular front for liberation of palestine ), was christian... so is laila khaled, one of the heroines of the palestinian struggle.



like rachel corrie, who was crushed by a idf bulldozer in 2003...

not to mention revolutionaries like carlos ( one of my heroes ), or socialist nations like east germany and vietnam who were not muslim yet greatly supported the palestine cause over the decades.

indian army in korea war ! which weed u are having now! also mere speculation ( by a brain dead ) regarding Indian army participation in 2003 war is equal to actually participating in it!! that was one great leap!

 

[Diggy]

Did you forget the eelam war that India supported to kill Tamils in record numbers just to avenge Rajiv Gandhi for the satisfaction of Sonia Gandhi?

really ? do you think that was the reason why india dint interfere in SL war , whats your age ?

 

[jamahir]

RealPolitik(Nations don't have friends, only permanent interests and such babble) helps only the strong. Strategists like Kissinger used this line to convince tinpot dictators to the Western Bloc. Basically the way an honest officer is introduced to corruption. It is one of the lines alongside 'everyone else is doing it', 'you have to think about your family', you deserve to be rich' that entices a person/country to be dishonest and escape what they have to do.

Realpolitik did not help India much in history. India's decisions by and large have been based on simple logic. What is the cause of Palestine issue. The simple answer is occupation and this is recognized by international law and an overwhelming majority of countries. This has got nothing to do with Palestine being muslim.

The realpolitik gurus will avoid this simple logic and run around the forest for an explanation in their lens and then arrive at this BS notion that Indian governments support Palestine because they have more muslims in the country. There is no smellier BS than this. And the saffronists, eager to clutch onto every random happening in this country as vote-bank politics grab on this biscuit.

huzoor, itna achha likhte hain aap, toh mujhe bhi tag kiya keejiye.

indian army in korea war ! which weed u are having now

a simple search in korea war wiki would have given a hint... check in right panel under "belligerents" and take it from there.

also mere speculation ( by a brain dead ) regarding Indian army participation in 2003 war is equal to actually participating in it!! that was one great leap!

already answered in this post... ( India must stop purchasing arms from Israel-AAP | Page 6 ).

 

[joekrish]

AAP has a plate full of problems and should mind it's business.

 

[Echo_419]

AAP has a plate full of problems and should mind it's business.

Agreed they should focus on solving my City's problem 1st

 

[punit]

huzoor, itna achha likhte hain aap, toh mujhe bhi tag kiya keejiye.



a simple search in korea war wiki would have given a hint... check in right panel under "belligerents" and take it from there.



already answered in this post... ( India must stop purchasing arms from Israel-AAP | Page 6 ).

lol read your own source genious

India decided not to get involved militarily but contributed a medical unit, the 60 Parachute Field Ambulance which served in Korea for a total of three and a half years (Nov 1950- May 1954), the longest single tenure by any military unit under the <b> UN flag. ,</b>

and what is excuse for 2003 story sir!

 

[jamahir]

lol read your own source genious

India decided not to get involved militarily but contributed a medical unit, the 60 Parachute Field Ambulance which served in Korea for a total of three and a half years (Nov 1950- May 1954), the longest single tenure by any military unit under the <b> UN flag. ,</b>

sigh... i have already spoken about this with @Indrani ( banned now ) maybe 7 months ago.

1. even the always biased wikipedia acknowledges which side were the indian army field ambulance units on... they were certainly not the red cross.

2. they would have been treating western bloc soldiers who had come back after massacring north koreans... so that makes the indian units as guilty party as the western bloc militaries.

3. they were a forward unit, so would have taken part in combat against north-korea/china/ussr.

and what is excuse for 2003 story sir!

what??

the longest single tenure by any military unit under the <b> UN flag. ,</b>

the uno was long a rubber-stamp agency of usa government.

 

[doppelganger]

He'll ask the Central government to pay up for his bill.

So the entire country should pay for Delhi's water and electricity.

Man I want to slap Kejri Baal.

Wait, someone already did ......

 

[rubyjackass]

huzoor, itna achha likhte hain aap, toh mujhe bhi tag kiya keejiye.

I thought you already knew the point I was trying to make.

 

[jamahir]

So the entire country should pay for Delhi's water and electricity.

the entire indian military must pay for free but metered water and electricity for the indian masses.

 

[Lord ZeN]

the entire indian military must pay for free but metered water and electricity for the indian masses.

Gem of a post

 

[Soumitra]

It would definitely be a warm approach to the Muslim World.
Believe it or not, i've met some Pro-India muslims . Albeit they were Arabs & Turks, not Pakistanis, but a muslim is a muslim.

You have to remember one thing when you encounter a political problem involving muslims. The Ummah (Islamic Community) has a religious obligation to support Muslims against Non-Muslims , regardless of the circumstances.
So any Muslim who supports Pakistan against India , is only doing so due to religious lines rather than political.

But! If India got into a conflict with a non-muslim nation (China for example), There would be Muslim Support for India

This is the reason people question their patriotism. If you keep religion before country and side with the enemy how can we trust you

 

[punit]

sigh... i have already spoken about this with @Indrani ( banned now ) maybe 7 months ago.

1. even the always biased wikipedia acknowledges which side were the indian army field ambulance units on... they were certainly not the red cross.

2. they would have been treating western bloc soldiers who had come back after massacring north koreans... so that makes the indian units as guilty party as the western bloc militaries.

3. they were a forward unit, so would have taken part in combat against north-korea/china/ussr.



what??



the uno was long a rubber-stamp agency of usa government.

1.under UNO command.
2. it serves both parties.
3. no cmbat unit.

so spare us with ur usual bullshit!