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India moved upgraded Mig 29 on forward airbase

She has a point but then everyone have it too like you and me although I like your point from a practical view point .
One should not underestimate his enemy...Doctrines are changing rapidly... Its the peace time which decides the fortune of states in todays time. we are heavily dependent on our Wmds and just ignoring every other thing.
 
naah...... Dont you know we have supernatural Pilots in our inventory. whom have the ability to bring down F22 as well. They are just Mkis and Mig29s. :sarcastic:
Yes i believe we have supernatural pilots who are hungry to prove their skills in the air and become the heroes of the nation and write their names in history. You should remember Saiful azam, Sattar Alvi , M.M.Alam all had inferior aircrafts against superior air forces (Israeli and Indian) which had Mirages,Hunters and Phantoms at their sides.
JF-17s, F-16s,Mirages and F-7s can handle Indian Migs and Sukhois. No need to panic, Indian don't have their wonder weapon (Rafale) right now to attack Pakistan with.

And i know PAF have already prepared for the Rafale threat.
 
The scared old Brahmin beating his chest to impress hundreds of millions of untouchables so they won't question him.


Bring it on bhangis. You have no idea what is coming your way.
 
We must not delude ourselves.

Wars we had with India were either evenly matched or we lost. Evenly matching against three times enemy maybe win for few but in absolute terms it was not.

Other side is a professional army/airforce. Working of which is almost similiar to us as we had similar origins.

Training wise we did probably slightly better job, upkeep and equipment wise too but we have major deficiencies in Armour, Attack helis, transport helis, long range air defence. We have reasonable numbers in fighter jets in defense role but no deep offensive capabilities. We have good sortie rate and overall capability to keep our jets in air but to what end. There is a limit to what human skill can stretch mediocre technology.

In short our esteemed Generals have learnt nothing from 71. Then we had gambled everything on US and now on tactical nukes.

Enemy knows this is the only time they can attack to good effect, Each passing year this dream of theirs will be less likely fruitful, as Pakistan is predicted to grow strong in coming years.
 
O! … the old King Duke of York
He had ten thousand men

He marched them to the top of the hill
...and he marched them down again!

This is the story of IAF, IN and IA.....every few years they march them to the border....only to march back.

its called election time, stupid people fall for it everytime
 
We must not delude ourselves.

Wars we had with India were either evenly matched or we lost. Evenly matching against three times enemy maybe win for few but in absolute terms it was not.

Other side is a professional army/airforce. Working of which is almost similiar to us as we had similar origins.

Training wise we did probably slightly better job, upkeep and equipment wise too but we have major deficiencies in Armour, Attack helis, transport helis, long range air defence. We have reasonable numbers in fighter jets in defense role but no deep offensive capabilities. We have good sortie rate and overall capability to keep our jets in air but to what end. There is a limit to what human skill can stretch mediocre technology.

In short our esteemed Generals have learnt nothing from 71. Then we had gambled everything on US and now on tactical nukes.

Enemy knows this is the only time they can attack to good effect, Each passing year this dream of theirs will be less likely fruitful, as Pakistan is predicted to grow strong in coming years.


Knowing the risk of our nukes, will they dare to launch any attack against Pakistan or will they continue with proxy ?
 
To matlab is dafa pakka hamla ho raha hai

:lol:

nah man ... they are just empty talks , unless there is a major false flag terror attack and Indians go crazy with blaming everything to Pakistan or ISI .. something of Mumbai scale i dont see a skirmish happening between the two countries .
 
let those know who want peace, to prepare for war..

"Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum"

roman military quote
 
We must not delude ourselves.

Wars we had with India were either evenly matched or we lost. Evenly matching against three times enemy maybe win for few but in absolute terms it was not.

Other side is a professional army/airforce. Working of which is almost similiar to us as we had similar origins.

Training wise we did probably slightly better job, upkeep and equipment wise too but we have major deficiencies in Armour, Attack helis, transport helis, long range air defence. We have reasonable numbers in fighter jets in defense role but no deep offensive capabilities. We have good sortie rate and overall capability to keep our jets in air but to what end. There is a limit to what human skill can stretch mediocre technology.

In short our esteemed Generals have learnt nothing from 71. Then we had gambled everything on US and now on tactical nukes.

Enemy knows this is the only time they can attack to good effect, Each passing year this dream of theirs will be less likely fruitful, as Pakistan is predicted to grow strong in coming years.
Things like 71 happen when you lose your support in the people.
A deep analysis of our wartime efforts reveals great tactical prowess among small units but poor command of larger theaters as a whole, as the rankers were reaching the top, and still do, albeit less.
The last war we fought showed how brilliant our infantry and artillery is despite standing up to a 6 times larger force and conducting offensive operations in terrible terrain, with zero air support and the whole nation unaware and fooled into crap excuses by the upper 'masterminds'.
Conventional or COIN, our boys have proven their mettle.
If the enemy attacks first, it will be digging it's grave, and that is exactly what we want, give them the incentive.
Make it a blood bath with our buzzsaws.
The descendents of Rajputs Mughals and Pashtuns know how to fight, but we have to be realistic, a smaller force is better defending and has more moral support. So the military is doing well, rebuilding and waiting.
 
Yar Ab ki dafa mazak nai kerna pichli dafa bhi hum ne SideWinders pkae the especially apke MKIs k liye but ap raste se hi wapis chale gae.

Ab ki dafa hum ne SideWinders k sath sath SD-10s, AIM-120, PL-9 bhi bnae hain. Pichli dafa one dish ka rule tha. Ab ki dafa zaror ana or chote bache Teja ko bhi sath lana uske liye special treat hai.
 
There's still time to get some squadrons of j series on lease immediately.

War is coming!

I still don't think Modi will risk full fledge war, cuz already dwindling indian economy will be the prime looser, plus things can get out of control, i don't think, guys at south block are fools, but, yes a localised conflict like Kargil, in order to pressurise already stretched Pakistani armed forces and weaken anti terror operations at our western border can be the goal of all this practice.

but lets c...
 
hama kia inka patrol jaal raha haa... even single 25 min sortie cost more then 12,000 euros non supersonic
Are you saying that when indian planes have waken up doing situps and dips, warming up for delivering a punch, your planes will continue to sleep in blanket ? Just becoz it costs 12000 euros ?
 
Mig 29 upgraded in Adampur
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