India may agree to deploy NATO missile system.

[ganesh177]

Why do russia oppose such shield for europe ?
And why will they oppose india when its not relevant to russia ? There has to be valid reason.

 

[Dash]

It will not matter anything to GoI if it is in India's interest. GoI do not care about Russia, they should not have any openion about NATO-India deal on technology cooperation. Did we ask for Russia's opinion on Barak anti-missile JV?

Barak8 developement is a different issue, its related to only one country, tactically and strategically.

I dont see any tactical gain out of NATO missile shield program. On return if we do join then it will have a paramount strategic Impact on Asia and the world as whole. I mean it this could be biggest thing that could have happened in recent history after cold war.

India is strategically based at a place where this missile defence will work wonders for NATO. It will have ability to destroy the missile way before it reaches the NATO countries.

But Look at ASIA now, honestly saying the ASIA is not unified like US or Europe and that is Asia's biggest disadvantage.
From China to India to Gulf everybody is beating its own trumpet. Its a dengareous situation. Today if China attacks Canada (hypothetically speaking), US UK and many other countries will come to her rescue. Who is there for us? Russia, a "BIG NO", but that shouldnt tell any one that its all the more reason we join NATO. We might get comfort by joining NATO. but we will create the biggest devide in history. India will be the first to do so and it wont be a good thing.

We need to focus on ASIA and that must be our goal for coming decades.

 

[Whazzup]

You first reply to the post meant for you .... here


I do not care about anyone whether it is NATO or Russia but no one is angel. Nether Russia nor NATO. What NATO does is in benefit for them, what Russia does for benefit of them. Is rooting out Taliban in Afghanistan is crime? Removing a dictator like Saddam or Gaddafi? NATO were against the war crimes committed by Sri Lanka but surprisingly India were worried why west were raising it.

Completely true no one is a angle out here thats why instead of choosing sides India should maintain it's dignity and make its own path and Ashok is true about the genocides of NATO , and I say that US is a selfish nation and any kind of relationship with them in the field of defence will make us more harm then good .

 

[Kinetic]

For the first part I just interpretted that I thought Nato missile system means western missile

I am not talking about NATO/Western, but just wanted to know where did you got the info that India is deploying NATO's missile defence?

And what crimes have Nato did -Nato is nothing but a group of countries lead by the most selfish nation in the world (US) first it helped those afghans by calling them freedomfighters and latter attacked them, they attacked Iraq by saying that they want to get rid of those wmd and now Libiya

Every nation is selfish, nothing new here. The most powerful countries like US or Russia are the most nasty nation in the world. They do not do anything without their own interests. NATO attacked Taliban. Iraq was attacked to remove a dictator.

but I can't blame you as most of the Indian members just like you have become a major fan of US just bcoz of some drone attacks nice relations with NATO will bring more harm than good.

Ohhhh my good!!! I am US FAN NOW!!!!

Do you wanna see my anti-US posts? You will than call me fan of Russia...


here you go.....

http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-...n-power-combat-drones-80-kn-thrust-now-4.html

and for that Russia part just look at my post #51.

So in that way you justify Russia supplying an advanced missile defence system like S-400 to China!!!!!

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

My emotion is about India and its security, nothing else.

Where was your thanks when Russia supplied S-400 anti-missile system to China? Or stopped constant thanking for a while and took some rest?

And forget about everything else that they did for us ? Like helping us when the entire west and china were against us . Their support for us against Pakistan on international high tables ? Their refusal to sell Pakistan major weapons in the past ?

your 'thanking line' didn't make much sense btw .

 

[ashokdeiva]

You first reply to the post meant for you .... here


I do not care about anyone whether it is NATO or Russia but no one is angel. Nether Russia nor NATO. What NATO does is in benefit for them, what Russia does for benefit of them. Is rooting out Taliban in Afghanistan is crime? Removing a dictator like Saddam or Gaddafi? NATO were against the war crimes committed by Sri Lanka but surprisingly India were worried why west were raising it.

They accuse on SADDAM was that he killed 144 of his country men, do you know how many died after the US & NATO invasion?
Libiya, was another case, where Gaddafi did not oblige to what the West says and what the west does goes to the rest of the Tribes of Libiya and provoke them to revolt(what I see is the hand work of CIA nothing more).
What is the future of Libiay after Gaddafi? its a big ?. the tribes will be kept as a puppet government while the west decides what is best for Libiya, the Libiyan people will be kept in the dillusion that they are in a free country while under their nose the West will steel their oil resources

 

[cyphercide]

They have offered same to Pak and China and now they enemies of both the same will happen to India in the future.

Hammer, all they offered was sharing of technology.It isn't a product that they can blackmail us with or an excuse to bring NATO agenda here.How is it so hard to understand?

 

[Kinetic]

They have offered same to Pak and China and now they enemies of both the same will happen to India in the future.

When they offered missile defence technology cooperation to Pakistan and China?

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Completely true no one is a angle out here thats why instead of choosing sides India should maintain it's dignity and make its own path and Ashok is true about the genocides of NATO , and I say that US is a selfish nation and any kind of relationship with them in the field of defence will make us more harm then good .

Am I still a fan of US just because of drone attacks? did you read my posts about US? Or you better stay for a while before labeling anyone as "fan of blah blah".

 

[cyphercide]

They accuse on SADDAM was that he killed 144 of his country men, do you know how many died after the US & NATO invasion?
Libiya, was another case, where Gaddafi did not oblige to what the West says and what the west does goes to the rest of the Tribes of Libiya and provoke them to revolt(what I see is the hand work of CIA nothing more).
What is the future of Libiay after Gaddafi? its a big ?. the tribes will be kept as a puppet government while the west decides what is best for Libiya, the Libiyan people will be kept in the dillusion that they are in a free country while under their nose the West will steel their oil resources

Dude,since you are so against everything American.Get on the street and start protesting;

For the aid India has been received from the United States when India was a nobody

All western companies creating employment here

The nuclear deal that allowed India to officially start trading and exporting nuclear technology

The defense sanctions being lifted allowing us to even CONSIDER fighter jets like the EFT or Rafales

Trade sanctions being lifted

I can go all day with this.

 

[Kinetic]

And forget about everything else that they did for us ? Like helping us when the entire west and china were against us . Their support for us against Pakistan on international high tables ? Their refusal to sell Pakistan major weapons in the past ?

your 'thanking line' didn't make much sense btw .

That time has changed long ago. India bought and paid a lot of money for that purpose. As I said no country do anything for free, there are some interests behind it. As someone said 70% of our defence systems are from Russia, than think how much we paid.

USSR did not sold any major weapons to Pakistan but neither US sold to India.

Now this is not 1971 this is 2011. The world has changes. USSR is not Russia, India is not that India, US is not that US, Pakistan is not that Pakistan. We did at that time what was in our interest and we should do now what is now in our interest, now whether your say it is like "tankless and emotionless robots". Russia-India good relation will remain good. We have good depth in relation bound by many deals and cooperaions. India will manage Russia when we also cooperate with NATO regarding other threats. The time has changed.New threats emerged.

 

[Whazzup]

When they offered missile defence technology cooperation to Pakistan and China?

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Am I still a fan of US just because of drone attacks? did you read my posts about US? Or you better stay for a while before labeling anyone as "fan of blah blah".

I was not talking about missile defence tech but those jets ships guns they delivered to Pak by saying that THESE MENT FOR THOSE TERRORISTS NOT INDIA as if Pakistan will EVER use them for that purpose or if US is unaware about this . And isn't US was the one who gave ballistc missile tech to China correct me if I am wrong actually I read that on this forum .
For the second part FAIR ENOUGH

 

[ashokdeiva]

Dude,since you are so against everything American.Get on the street and start protesting;

For the aid India has been received from the United States when India was a nobody

All western companies creating employment here

The nuclear deal that allowed India to officially start trading and exporting nuclear technology

The defense sanctions being lifted allowing us to even CONSIDER fighter jets like the EFT or Rafales

Trade sanction being lifted

I can go all day with this.

I am not alone interested in INDIAN interest, I am a man who speeks for Global peace. where ever there is a genocide or a coold blooded murder, I raise my voice. I do not belive in sole survival while the rest of the world dies.

 

[Whazzup]

Hammer, all they offered was sharing of technology.It isn't a product that they can blackmail us with or an excuse to bring NATO agenda here.How is it so hard to understand?

But its a cooperation in the defence field which will make us more dependent on them is this a nice move?? And yeah it will be a starting , we'll see more such cooperations in the future.DAMM

 

[Kinetic]

I am not alone interested in INDIAN interest, I am a man who speeks for Global peace. where ever there is a genocide or a coold blooded murder, I raise my voice. I do not belive in sole survival while the rest of the world dies.

You still not replied that after so much talks, where did you hear that India going to deploy NATO missile shield, now even went to 'global peace'! You read this conspiracy BS and came to an conclusion, isn't it?

Do you know how many people killed by our 'friend Russia'? How many killed under Stalin? Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and central asia?

 

[cyphercide]

I am not alone interested in INDIAN interest, I am a man who speeks for Global peace. where ever there is a genocide or a coold blooded murder, I raise my voice. I do not belive in sole survival while the rest of the world dies.

LMFAO!!! I apologize Mother Theresa! What was the last thing you ever did to help out a fellow human being in distress other than texting patronizing posts on a foreign defense forum.I think posting here has played havoc on the minds of many trying to win sympathy of others.