India may agree to deploy NATO missile system.

[DarK-LorD]

Only Russian source I got is a blog:

NATO and India to build joint missile defense system?

According to The Daily Telegraph, NATO’s campaign in Libya is probably the last war fought by the West without the consent of China or India. No great wonder, appropriate overtures are being made. India’s Hindustan Times and The Times of India quote the US NATO Ambassador Ivo Daalder and other NATO sources in Brussels as hinting India should drop approaches from the Cold War, rethink its non-alignment policy and join non-NATO powers like Australia and Russia in cooperating with NATO on normalizing Afghanistan, staging wargames, combating terrorism, drug trade and cyberspace crime and exploring possibilities for regional and global missile defence.

There has been a pronouncement about this from Mr Robert Pshel, head of NATO’s Information Office in Moscow:

"I agree with Mr Daalder that many modern threats are global, and tackling them without emerging powers like India is hardly possible."

India, however, never supports military action other than sanctioned by the United Nations and is by no means keen to join NATO as the Alliance's 29th member:

The Voice of Russia heard about this from the observer of India’s ITMN television channel Vikram Bahl:

"I do not think India will join NATO. We deal with Russia, we have a relationship in counter terrorism."

Dr Boris Volkonsky of the Russian Strategic Research Institute sees a link to the regional wars currently waged by NATO:

"What next for Libya after Gaddafi is history and what next for Afghanistan after the announced pullout deadline of 2014 is fuel for guesswork. In the meantime, this August was America’s bloodiest month in Afghanistan. An ally like India would strengthen Washington’s hand in South and Southwest Asia and other world areas."

One ulterior motive may also be at work, namely, that of shared Indian and American fear of the rising dragon of China.

Observers in Russia call attention to the fact that the American ABM overtures to India coincide with announcements about planned interceptor positions in Rumania and an early-warning radar in Turkey.

Russia continues to pursue cooperative missile defence, or at least guarantees that no American or NATO missile defense installation in the European area compromises its deterrent capability.

Within the next two weeks, Presidents Dmitry Medvedev and Barack Obama are expected to issue a joint statement on missile defense issues.

NATO and India to build joint missile defense system?: Voice of Russia

 

[Aslan]

Aren't the Russians opposing the proposed shield and all that being placed in Europe. If they are then how will they allow it to be placed in india.

 

[DelhiDareDevil]

Aren't the Russians opposing the proposed shield and all that being placed in Europe. If they are then how will they allow it to be placed in india.

India has a NAM, we dont have to listen to other nations, like other countries.

The fact that India has many military plans together, we should try not to disturb it, as we invested a lot of time and money into making the relationship between the 2 nations strong.

 

[Kinetic]

So far as our neighbourhood is concerned,the big powers already possess nukes and delivery systems.So the possibility Mutually-Assured-Destruction acts as deterrence.

The nukes and delivery system is the main problem here we are talking about. There are constant threat and talk of using nuclear weapons. This is not MAD situation, it is like one side is very eager to use nukes.

But we have people getting killed by small-arms fire on daily basis,the terrorist attacks.

That is much more in our neighborhood big power! In every country people killed by small arms fire more so in developed countries like US cities. Still the nuke and the delivery system is the greatest threat to a country.

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Aren't the Russians opposing the proposed shield and all that being placed in Europe. If they are then how will they allow it to be placed in india.

Whether it is placed in India or not is not to be decided by Russia but India. BTW it is not basing any NATO missiles but technology and may be info sharing like early warning systems.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

we should not do anything that pisses russis off

 

[Kinetic]

we should not do anything that pisses russis off

Why?

1) Why the question of Russia is here? Russia already cooperating with NATO regarding missile shield.

2) Why should we care about Russia if it benefits us?

 

[ashokdeiva]

I'll make it simpler for you.Tell me one negative and we can dump the whole idea.

We will lose a all time friend and a big partner in Defence, Nuclear and any technical field for the sake of a missile defence.
No matter what there is not going to be a nuclear war, if it happens its MAD, and Pakistan or China is not interested in such a senario.
I hope that is sufficient enough.
Also we are not back stabbers of a friend.

 

[cyphercide]

we should not do anything that pisses russis off

Out of question,they are already coordinating with NATO outside it's framework.Why would they mind?

 

[ashokdeiva]

India must join NATO not only in this missile system,but in every other activity !
Its as win win situation for India ! we will get state of the art defense equipments ,it will shut up many loud mouth countries !

oh ya, we will also be part of the blood bath that the NATO is bring in most third world countries.
NATO has alway been interested in the benifits of US and its European countries, INDIA will just be another fool like the third world countries that joined NATO for protection if we go for this aliance.

 

[cyphercide]

We will lose a all time friend and a big partner in Defence, Nuclear and any technical field for the sake of a missile defence.
No matter what there is not going to be a nuclear war, if it happens its MAD, and Pakistan or China is not interested in such a senario.
I hope that is sufficient enough.
Also we are not back stabbers of a friend.

Huh? which friend are you talking about? Russia that is already cooperating with NATO.In fact, I think they will wholeheartedly support the intention.

 

[Kinetic]

We will lose a all time friend and a big partner in Defence, Nuclear and any technical field for the sake of a missile defence.

Who told you so? The missile defence in India might be against China and Pakistan. where does Russia comes here? The India-Russia good relation is based on facts not enmity.

No matter what there is not going to be a nuclear war, if it happens its MAD, and Pakistan or China is not interested in such a senario.
I hope that is sufficient enough.

There will be no MAD when we have full multi layered missile defence shield in place.

Also we are not back stabbers of a friend.

All international relationship are businesses and are of mutual interests not real friendship.

 

[Dash]

Why?

1) Why the question of Russia is here? Russia already cooperating with NATO regarding missile shield.

2) Why should we care about Russia if it benefits us?

This is not a right way to look at it. We need to know Russian openion to decide it. So we are not completely caring about Russia but yes their "Openion" would matter a lot to GOI.

 

[tvsram1992]

We are not fools to say if we will be protected.
We should use mix of Russian BMD and NATO BMD, Aakash SAM .
For tactical targets, S500
For cities and national defense PAC3
These should be supplemented by AD1 and AD2 in huge no's to make a shield over country.

 

[nForce]

The nukes and delivery system is the main problem here we are talking about. There are constant threat and talk of using nuclear weapons. This is not MAD situation, it is like one side is very eager to use nukes.




That is much more in our neighborhood big power! In every country people killed by small arms fire more so in developed countries like US cities. Still the nuke and the delivery system is the greatest threat to a country.

See,its quite simple.As an Indian,I am more concerned about my own home first,and thats natural.
We do have some delivery system,working models of nukes and substantial amounts of funds are being allocated for further development as well,like increase in range of the missiles, ABM systems etc.The results are satisfactory,as matter of fact one of the best in the World.All goodie goodie there,no issues.
But we do have this problem with terrorists up North,in the North-East and this Naxalite issue as well.We have Police personnel,innocent people getting killed every now and then,or have you forgotten totally about the Mumbai attacks or Dantewada?
There is a reason that these attacks are called terrorist attacks,that is they strike terror among the people.
More and more people are getting killed each and everyday with small arms fire.We need a well equipped and efficient police to counter that.More funds should be allocated and proper training should be provided to the Police to control the internal situations rather than playing International political ball games like inviting NATO to make bases in India.
NATO missiles being installed in India means they come along with the package.It will be a historical move if it ever happens.
India is not a NATO member,so if anything happens to India,NATO will not come for aid,but they can very well use the missile shield to threaten China.And China happens to be our biggest trading partner.Its we,who stand to loose.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Why?

1) Why the question of Russia is here? Russia already cooperating with NATO regarding missile shield.

2) Why should we care about Russia if it benefits us?

I am sorry but most Indians are not thankless , emotionless robots like you .