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thanks buddy, you have any more info about "milli metric wave seeker" in what stage of development this is?
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i remember reading about it in a drdo page and is said to be the most advanced anti tank seeker,it is all weather,its frequency in w band spectrum is sharp so that it cant be fooled easily and can avoid any futuristic countermeasures
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A world class long-range missile
Thursday August 14 2008 03:08 IST
Manoj K Das | ENS
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KOCHI: The Army has asked the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to develop a new series of missiles with ranges above 70 km to fill the crucial gap in its artillery.
The Army does not possess any long-range missiles after the Agni and Prithvi missiles were brought under the control of the Strategic Command that coordinates the country’s arsenal of nuclear weapons.
Other missiles in the artillery are open missiles like Pinaka, used for neutralising a specific area of operational interest.
Tops sources told to this website's newspaper that the Army has placed its quality requirements before the Pune-based Armament Research and Development Establishment.
“They are looking for a system that can hit specific targets beyond the borders. The directive clearly states that the Army is looking for a world class missile,” ARDE sources said.
In its GSQR or General Staff Qualitative Requirements, the Army has asked the ARDE to consider systems like the Russian Smerch (50 km), Brazilian Astros (80 km), Chinese Norinco (80 km) and Israeli Accular (100 km) before the new Indian missile is configured.
“They want a straight launch barrel with a diameter between 250-350 cm. We hope to upgrade the Pinaka to suit this need,” sources said.
The ARDE is planning to increase the range of Pinaka from its 38 km to 70 km to meet the Army’s requirements. “The Pinaka can be equipped with a guidance system to give it a sharper focus. We plan to combine its fuel tanks to create more space near the warhead to install control laws and inertial navigation systems,” sources said.
Even before the Army placed the new demand, the ARDE was working on range enhancement techniques on Pinaka. Some structural changes were effected and the fin dynamics changed to give the missile a range of 50 km.
“But it still is an open missile that can be fired in quick succession to pulverise an enemy concentration. Its precision can be made more accurate by providing GPS-based navigation.
We hope to finish development of the 70-km missile earlier than the deadline given by the Army,” sources said.
A world class long-range missile - Newindpress.com
Thursday August 14 2008 03:08 IST
Manoj K Das | ENS
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KOCHI: The Army has asked the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to develop a new series of missiles with ranges above 70 km to fill the crucial gap in its artillery.
The Army does not possess any long-range missiles after the Agni and Prithvi missiles were brought under the control of the Strategic Command that coordinates the country’s arsenal of nuclear weapons.
Other missiles in the artillery are open missiles like Pinaka, used for neutralising a specific area of operational interest.
Tops sources told to this website's newspaper that the Army has placed its quality requirements before the Pune-based Armament Research and Development Establishment.
“They are looking for a system that can hit specific targets beyond the borders. The directive clearly states that the Army is looking for a world class missile,” ARDE sources said.
In its GSQR or General Staff Qualitative Requirements, the Army has asked the ARDE to consider systems like the Russian Smerch (50 km), Brazilian Astros (80 km), Chinese Norinco (80 km) and Israeli Accular (100 km) before the new Indian missile is configured.
“They want a straight launch barrel with a diameter between 250-350 cm. We hope to upgrade the Pinaka to suit this need,” sources said.
The ARDE is planning to increase the range of Pinaka from its 38 km to 70 km to meet the Army’s requirements. “The Pinaka can be equipped with a guidance system to give it a sharper focus. We plan to combine its fuel tanks to create more space near the warhead to install control laws and inertial navigation systems,” sources said.
Even before the Army placed the new demand, the ARDE was working on range enhancement techniques on Pinaka. Some structural changes were effected and the fin dynamics changed to give the missile a range of 50 km.
“But it still is an open missile that can be fired in quick succession to pulverise an enemy concentration. Its precision can be made more accurate by providing GPS-based navigation.
We hope to finish development of the 70-km missile earlier than the deadline given by the Army,” sources said.
A world class long-range missile - Newindpress.com
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Yup you are correct, seems like the article is pointing towards that:
India tests multi-barrel rocket launcher
India tests multi-barrel rocket launcher Pinaka - Sify.com
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the article mentions a uav being fitted eith pinaka guess this will to effective terget designation and makes it completely independant of other platforms....and also subtracts problems of non availability of arial platforms right
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the article mentions a uav being fitted eith pinaka guess this will to effective terget designation and makes it completely independant of other platforms....and also subtracts problems of non availability of arial platforms right
UAV are now also used for target acquisition and guiding fire. But yes this concept going one level up
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India has already bought the Smerch. More units will be bought as follow on orders.
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This is good move, problems are expected, but eventually it will help in long run
Armed forces to fund DRDO projects
Armed forces to fund DRDO projects
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi August 16, 2008, 0:13 IST
Army not happy with the decision of it having to fund 10 per cent of the cost.
The Ministry of Defences (MoDs) highest body, the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), has handed a significant victory to the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) in its long-running quest to get the defence services to fund research and development (R&D) into high-technology military projects. As a result, the services could soon begin contributing 10 per cent of the cost of developing indigenous military systems.
So far, the DRDO has funded such projects which include successes like the Dhruv helicopter, the Agni ballistic missile and the Arjun tank entirely from its budget.
The DAC has agreed in principle that such projects should be funded in a 70-20-10 per cent ratio: 70 per cent by the DRDO, 20 per cent by the industry partner that will manufacture the developed product; and 10 per cent by whichever of the three services the product is being developed for, senior MoD officials told Business Standard.
That 10 per cent liability for the military will amount to no more than Rs 300 crore a year, which is a small fraction of the Rs 30,000 crore spent annually on foreign arms. But the DRDO hopes that this relatively small amount will transform what it calls an unduly critical approach of the military towards home-grown military products. A 10 per cent ownership, the DRDO believes, will transform the military from a detached and demanding buyer into a stakeholder, which regards the projects as its own.
The military is unhappy with this decision. Sources in the tri-service Integrated Defence Staff say the army argued forcefully against the proposal, when it was discussed in the MoD.
The DRDO chief, M Natarajan, admitted recently the behind-the-scenes battles that preceded this decision. But he underplayed the benefits to the DRDO, telling a gathering of the defence manufacturers that the private sector and defence PSUs would be equal beneficiaries.
Natarajan said, The DRDO has certainly demanded this, but it is equally applicable to the private sector and the public sector undertakings.
The defence minister said that while he appreciates the DRDOs concerns, he would also like to take on board the views of the services. So the proposal was considered carefully and finally the DAC has given its approval. I think this is a very significant development, the minister said.
But the new funding pattern has not been included in the new Defence Procurement Policy (DPP-2008), which will come into effect from September 1. The DPP-2008 gives the DRDO responsibility to develop strategic, complex and security sensitive systems, which include ballistic missiles and electronic warfare systems that are not normally up for sale. These will continue to be funded entirely by the DRDO.
The new 70-20-10 per cent funding pattern applies to what the DPP-2008 categorises as High Technology Complex Systems, which include advanced systems like tanks, fighters and helicopters, which could be bought internationally, but which the MoD wants the domestic industry to develop. The DPP-2008, however, excludes the DRDO from this category, reserving it for RuRs/Indian industry/DPSUs/OFB/Consortia.
A similar provision existed in the DPP-2006 but over the last two years only the DRDO has developed High Technology Complex Systems, such as the Dhruv helicopter, Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), and Arjun tank. Not a single project has been taken up by any private company or DPSU. In addition, under the Strategic, Complex and Security Sensitive Systems category, the DRDO has developed several variants of the Agni missile and electronic warfare systems like the Samyukta.
Senior army sources say they intend to fight the DAC decision on joint funding. The military has already pointed out that the DPP-2008 does not mention the DRDO as eligible to develop High Technology Complex Systems. The DRDO admits that the new decision could face delays in implementation if the military decides to stonewall it, citing the DPP-2008.
Armed forces to fund DRDO projects
Armed forces to fund DRDO projects
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi August 16, 2008, 0:13 IST
Army not happy with the decision of it having to fund 10 per cent of the cost.
The Ministry of Defences (MoDs) highest body, the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), has handed a significant victory to the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) in its long-running quest to get the defence services to fund research and development (R&D) into high-technology military projects. As a result, the services could soon begin contributing 10 per cent of the cost of developing indigenous military systems.
So far, the DRDO has funded such projects which include successes like the Dhruv helicopter, the Agni ballistic missile and the Arjun tank entirely from its budget.
The DAC has agreed in principle that such projects should be funded in a 70-20-10 per cent ratio: 70 per cent by the DRDO, 20 per cent by the industry partner that will manufacture the developed product; and 10 per cent by whichever of the three services the product is being developed for, senior MoD officials told Business Standard.
That 10 per cent liability for the military will amount to no more than Rs 300 crore a year, which is a small fraction of the Rs 30,000 crore spent annually on foreign arms. But the DRDO hopes that this relatively small amount will transform what it calls an unduly critical approach of the military towards home-grown military products. A 10 per cent ownership, the DRDO believes, will transform the military from a detached and demanding buyer into a stakeholder, which regards the projects as its own.
The military is unhappy with this decision. Sources in the tri-service Integrated Defence Staff say the army argued forcefully against the proposal, when it was discussed in the MoD.
The DRDO chief, M Natarajan, admitted recently the behind-the-scenes battles that preceded this decision. But he underplayed the benefits to the DRDO, telling a gathering of the defence manufacturers that the private sector and defence PSUs would be equal beneficiaries.
Natarajan said, The DRDO has certainly demanded this, but it is equally applicable to the private sector and the public sector undertakings.
The defence minister said that while he appreciates the DRDOs concerns, he would also like to take on board the views of the services. So the proposal was considered carefully and finally the DAC has given its approval. I think this is a very significant development, the minister said.
But the new funding pattern has not been included in the new Defence Procurement Policy (DPP-2008), which will come into effect from September 1. The DPP-2008 gives the DRDO responsibility to develop strategic, complex and security sensitive systems, which include ballistic missiles and electronic warfare systems that are not normally up for sale. These will continue to be funded entirely by the DRDO.
The new 70-20-10 per cent funding pattern applies to what the DPP-2008 categorises as High Technology Complex Systems, which include advanced systems like tanks, fighters and helicopters, which could be bought internationally, but which the MoD wants the domestic industry to develop. The DPP-2008, however, excludes the DRDO from this category, reserving it for RuRs/Indian industry/DPSUs/OFB/Consortia.
A similar provision existed in the DPP-2006 but over the last two years only the DRDO has developed High Technology Complex Systems, such as the Dhruv helicopter, Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), and Arjun tank. Not a single project has been taken up by any private company or DPSU. In addition, under the Strategic, Complex and Security Sensitive Systems category, the DRDO has developed several variants of the Agni missile and electronic warfare systems like the Samyukta.
Senior army sources say they intend to fight the DAC decision on joint funding. The military has already pointed out that the DPP-2008 does not mention the DRDO as eligible to develop High Technology Complex Systems. The DRDO admits that the new decision could face delays in implementation if the military decides to stonewall it, citing the DPP-2008.
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Guys check this, seems more of a stop gap measure:
IAF to add teeth with Israeli missile system-India-The Times of India
IAF to add teeth with Israeli missile system-India-The Times of India
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What stop gap measure mate? Its what will actually be guarding the strategic sites of India. This is no stop gap measure. This is the final thing. Apart from Delhi, all the other places of strategic importance would have this SAM. This is India's Long Range SAM system.
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