India is taking our jobs. It is not going to happen anymore, folks!” - Trump

[Hamartia Antidote]

What Americans do not yet realize is that they get all the cheap, affordable and advanced products/services from China/India/Vietnam etc., stop this trade, stop sending service related jobs to India, stop buying top quality products from China and stop factories operating in China/Vietnam etc., and the people will be begging to bring back the old outsourced system. It's quite simple actually, 4 Indians (in India) and 6 Chinese (in China) work on the same package as every American (average salary of USD 4k/month).

It's actually a little more complicated than that. Even if we could pay $1/hr that still isn't going to solve the problem of what you are going to do with the waste generated by manufacturing. In the old days they could dump it in the nearest river or bury barrels of it in fields above a towns well-water. Unfortunately that isn't going to go over well thee day with the locals who will all be doing "Not In My Backyard".

 

[911]

Replace US with 'Muslim invaders', and China in more recent times; that's the nature of whining generally.

Most ordinary Indians feel like 'others' removed the crown from their head (one they never had) and turned them into what they are today (honestly more Indians, in absolute numbers, are better off today than they were during Mauryan or Vedic times - it's just that % wise the stats don't look so good because of overpopulation, thanks to Fritz haber!).

Hello there @Atanz

China/Japan/South Korea?

You got my point wrong.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

You got my point wrong.

Happens often these days lol .....

 

[marbella]

Trump and sheikh rasheed are so good at trolling. They can and have infact trolled evryone..

 

[Wine&Steak]

Yes, because you are good, cheap labourers for us to use, and nothing more. You brilliant Indians are just worker-bees for your American bosses. So who's the idiot again?

You Indians want to insult all of my countrymen? Then I am perfectly happy to call you the cheap little labourers that you are. See how that works?

This guy "Bombermanx1" is delusional. Don't waste your time with small minded individuals blinded by HATE.

No one should bet their money against USA, they will lose. I never did even at the depths of US recession in 2008, in fact I doubled down. I bought properties, stocks rights at the trough. I literally pleaded with my friends in 2012 to buy houses here in bay area.

FYI : Indian IT workers are not the low paid. Here in SIlicon valley approx 40% of new companies are formed by immigrants and Indians are a big part of it, but no one can dispute innovation by native born Americans. A lot of factors came together to make America great. It will be in future also and Trump is an clever trash getting free media time with his outlandish talk.

Trashing Trump

 

[Viper0011.]

I'm not worried in the least about his campaign rhetoric about "India stealing jobs", it's just rhetoric, but President Trump will dump the Saudis as allies, and that'll go a long way is stabilizing the middle east and be good for the rest of the world in general.

Don't change the topic. The Saudis are fukked up with regards to terrorism, I hate their policies just as much as Trump does. But that's not the topic. The topic was, who is taking the American jobs away? That's India.

Do I care about Mexicans or the Chinese who make $ 2-5 a day and TEN of them, are equal to ONE Indian employee as the average contract wages paid to Indian companies are about $ 70 an hour? YES, this is the big money and THAT is what Trump is talking about too. At $ 70 an hour, you can have 14 Chinese or Mexican workers every hour. So I am pissed at the higher income jobs.

Let's see, an average project takes 5 H1B people, whether they are needed or not and the US labor was available (I am using one project as an example, there are millions of them ongoing every day across the US industries). So these 5 people would be getting paid (to their Indian H1B holder company $ 70 * 5 people * 40 hours a week =
$ 14,000.00 a week). You know how many people from MExico or China be employed in this amount? 70 people per week!!!!

So as an American, where do I think the problem is? The guy who may be stealing my $ 5? Or the guy who may be stealing my $ 70? that I could easily pay to a local American and ensure that I am feeding an American family? You bet I want that money to go to an American family and not to India.

Plus, the Indian employees, even the ones naturalized, they still don't respect the US and send majority of their money back to India so she can become a super power. So why should Americans be taken away from higher paying jobs so India can become a super power???? And through the media, Americans are made to believe that the Indians are smarter, which is NOT the case. Its just a media way to hide the fact that there are inside $$$$ deals to make more money by a few, and to screw the average American family. Greed is the mother of all evil and in this situation, Trump is right. We need to ensure our higher paying jobs come back from India to the US again. We have the people, the talent and the schools to produce that talent locally.

 

[waz]

Hilariously some Indian posters were cheering for Trump, due to some apparent idea that he will get tough with Pakistan and side with India. See folks, the enemy of your enemy is not always your friend.

 

[Wine&Steak]

Plus, the Indian employees, even the ones naturalized, they still don't respect the US and send majority of their money back to India so she can become a super power

Are you sure about this ? Have you looked at their personal finance to come to that conclusion ?
As soon as a naturalized Indian-American has taken a mortgage, he does not have much to send back.

Think before you make assumptions.

 

[Desertfalcon]

For all i know you are another Pakistani origin person with a American flag,so shed the i was Pro-India before not now facade,we know how hollow it is and frankly we dont care if a American is pro India or not.

Nope, not Pakistani at all and yes, I was pro-Indian before I met posters like yourself. You guys have taught me well. Your hatred for America is echoed now x10 by my hatred for worthless whinny little pussy India. Good job.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Don't change the topic. The Saudis are fukked up with regards to terrorism, I hate their policies just as much as Trump does. But that's not the topic. The topic was, who is taking the American jobs away? That's India.

Do I care about Mexicans or the Chinese who make $ 2-5 a day and TEN of them, are equal to ONE Indian employee as the average contract wages paid to Indian companies are about $ 70 an hour? YES, this is the big money and THAT is what Trump is talking about too. At $ 70 an hour, you can have 14 Chinese or Mexican workers every hour. So I am pissed at the higher income jobs.

Let's see, an average project takes 5 H1B people, whether they are needed or not and the US labor was available (I am using one project as an example, there are millions of them ongoing every day across the US industries). So these 5 people would be getting paid (to their Indian H1B holder company $ 70 * 5 people * 40 hours a week =
$ 14,000.00 a week). You know how many people from MExico or China be employed in this amount? 70 people per week!!!!

So as an American, where do I think the problem is? The guy who may be stealing my $ 5? Or the guy who may be stealing my $ 70? that I could easily pay to a local American and ensure that I am feeding an American family? You bet I want that money to go to an American family and not to India.

Plus, the Indian employees, even the ones naturalized, they still don't respect the US and send majority of their money back to India so she can become a super power. So why should Americans be taken away from higher paying jobs so India can become a super power???? And through the media, Americans are made to believe that the Indians are smarter, which is NOT the case. Its just a media way to hide the fact that there are inside $$$$ deals to make more money by a few, and to screw the average American family. Greed is the mother of all evil and in this situation, Trump is right. We need to ensure our higher paying jobs come back from India to the US again. We have the people, the talent and the schools to produce that talent locally.

It is a Myth that Indians are stealing U.S. Jobs.
It is American CEOs which are giving the U.S. Jobs to Indians and Chinese.
Hang Your CEOs...

 

[Baybars Han]

The educated and American elite won't let him become president. He will get votes from the uneducated patriots.

 

[Viper0011.]

It is a Myth that Indians are stealing U.S. Jobs.
It is American CEOs which are giving the U.S. Jobs to Indians and Chinese.
Hang Your CEOs...

Riiightttt.......change your flags back to India first? I don't write crap on here. I can assure you, I've known plenty of large companies CEO's over the course of past 15 years at the least. And trust me, I know this game inside out. The bribe and favors go way beyond the upper management.

They go down to every level unfortunately. Plus, a LOT of the H1B's.....aren't even real. You should google H1B fraud and read US law enforcement's legal cases before you put your nose into a topic where you obviously have 0 background in, or you are simply playing stupid.

Here's one example, one time in 2011, a small Indian company's CEO came to meet me. During lunch, we talked about Economy and stuff. And I just casually said, we just went through a round of interviews last week, and I was surprised to see how many local kids were jobless with great education and degrees, and in one of the most busiest commercial areas.

His answer to my statement was, "yea, I am worried too, since the economy went down in 2008, there are probably a few hundred thousands Indian kids graduated with degrees without jobs, waiting to come to the US.

When I heard his answer, I was shocked to say the least. I was worried about local American kids without jobs, but his head was worried about the Indian kids......while he lives in the US, makes millions of dollars here, and has 0 loyalty to America. THAT is my issue.

I respect Indian kids and Chinese kids just as much as I respect our American kids. But when you live somewhere and earn the best that you couldn't earn elsewhere, and enjoy the best lifestyle (talking about America), you have got to show some fukking loyalty to this country !!

 

[Mav3rick]

It's actually a little more complicated than that. Even if we could pay $1/hr that still isn't going to solve the problem of what you are going to do with the waste generated by manufacturing. In the old days they could dump it in the nearest river or bury barrels of it in fields above a towns well-water. Unfortunately that isn't going to go over well thee day with the locals who will all be doing "Not In My Backyard".

Exactly, I was speaking of the initial and most direct challenge, but when we start looking at this multi dimensional only then the situation becomes difficult to the point of grim.

 

[T-72M1]

Don't change the topic. The Saudis are fukked up with regards to terrorism, I hate their policies just as much as Trump does. But that's not the topic. The topic was, who is taking the American jobs away? That's India.

Do I care about Mexicans or the Chinese who make $ 2-5 a day and TEN of them, are equal to ONE Indian employee as the average contract wages paid to Indian companies are about $ 70 an hour? YES, this is the big money and THAT is what Trump is talking about too. At $ 70 an hour, you can have 14 Chinese or Mexican workers every hour. So I am pissed at the higher income jobs.

Let's see, an average project takes 5 H1B people, whether they are needed or not and the US labor was available (I am using one project as an example, there are millions of them ongoing every day across the US industries). So these 5 people would be getting paid (to their Indian H1B holder company $ 70 * 5 people * 40 hours a week =
$ 14,000.00 a week). You know how many people from MExico or China be employed in this amount? 70 people per week!!!!

So as an American, where do I think the problem is? The guy who may be stealing my $ 5? Or the guy who may be stealing my $ 70? that I could easily pay to a local American and ensure that I am feeding an American family? You bet I want that money to go to an American family and not to India.

Plus, the Indian employees, even the ones naturalized, they still don't respect the US and send majority of their money back to India so she can become a super power. So why should Americans be taken away from higher paying jobs so India can become a super power???? And through the media, Americans are made to believe that the Indians are smarter, which is NOT the case. Its just a media way to hide the fact that there are inside $$$$ deals to make more money by a few, and to screw the average American family. Greed is the mother of all evil and in this situation, Trump is right. We need to ensure our higher paying jobs come back from India to the US again. We have the people, the talent and the schools to produce that talent locally.

I don't care about H1-B visas, the wall, a ban on muslims, or China manipulating the renminbi

What makes me exited about Trump is his foreign policy vision, stuff like working with Russia against ISIS, not supporting the Syrian rebels, and that he's called out Turkey for supporting ISIS, blamed the saudis for 9/11, attacked the Bush admin. and admitted to the wars in the middle east being a mistake and that Saddam and Gaddafi were better than what we have now in the region. He also said he'll try to get a fair deal between Israel and Palestine.

All that is seriously good stuff coming from a potential POTUS.

 

[kublaiyuan]

Trump is good for India, hillary will be worst than obama for India. Trump will not give a single penny as aid to pakistanis thats given, India might get more insights into US tech., regarding outsourcing philippines already take most of BPO work, service industry in India is well entrenched in US economy, Trump might raise H1B fees nothing else he can do,
rest most of software product cos from US has mostly Research & Development centers here which will remain here no matter what.
Anyway economically India grows by domestic consumption around 80%+ so outsourcing doesn't affect India much although it will keep growing and growing cant be stopped