India in R6,000-crore JV with Russia for BrahMos’ air version

[Yogi]

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[The_magnificent]

R & D interview，Diameter:400mm, length:5.2m, 900kg, 5.5 mach, 240km range, attack gound and sea target
设计人员详解CM-400AKG超音速空地导弹性能_新浪视频

NO official declaration . Just Some defence expo video. WHo knows who is he ? nothing official about this missile yet

 

[timetravel]

Guys nothing.... now the Chinese have started making fake claims for 5.5 mach missile.

this is borne out of frustration of India's Brahmos and the in development Hypersonic missile. So it is a lame attempt at trying to out do India by as usual fake claims. China is not able to produce even Brahmos in next 2 decades, forget about cruise missile with 5.5 mach speed.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Guys nothing.... now the Chinese have started making fake claims for 5.5 mach missile.

this is borne out of frustration of India's Brahmos and the in development Hypersonic missile. So it is a lame attempt at trying to out do India by as usual fake claims. China is not able to produce even Brahmos in next 2 decades, forget about cruise missile with 5.5 mach speed.

Actually mach 5.5 is not hard to achieve with solid fuel missiles, for example if an A2G version of the Prahaar missile is made it would probably have similar characteristics.

Mach 5.5 would be very difficult for a cruise missile, for that you would need to perfect the Scramjet technology, which even the US has not been able to do so far.

 

[Mitro]

So we did not learn any thing from JV of brahmos that we can not modified it to be launch from a plane wow how long we are going to depand on other.

I think the thread is about brahmos not any chinese missile guys please stay on topic.

 

[Abingdonboy]

One thing is sure.
India wont be exporting any of them,as china has already made a cheaper and much faster missile with better features,and its up for sale.

^^ Read the JF-17 discussion thread,and you will know.

$1.1 Billion damn too much expensive considering the fact India already have Brahmos technology.
Russia ne phr haath saaf kia ha.

Mach 5.5, and already integeated into PAF.
Like i said, read JF-17 thread, dont want to repeat all that.

lol it is and its part of PAF arsenal now with thundering speed of 5.5mach.

JF-17 will carry two of them...while MKI will carry one Brahmos...

One thing is sure.
India wont be exporting any of them,as china has already made a cheaper and much faster missile with better features,and its up for sale.

^^ Read the JF-17 discussion thread,and you will know.

$1.1 Billion damn too much expensive considering the fact India already have Brahmos technology.
Russia ne phr haath saaf kia ha.

Mach 5.5, and already integeated into PAF.
Like i said, read JF-17 thread, dont want to repeat all that.

lol it is and its part of PAF arsenal now with thundering speed of 5.5mach.

JF-17 will carry two of them...while MKI will carry one Brahmos...

500km? you have no idea what you talking about read first post carefully.
Bottom line is PAF have better missile now with the speed of 5.5 mach while India is gonna spend another 1.1Bil$ to get this tech lol

In house production,that is a definite plus.
But by the time Brahmos mini will be ready,it wont have any export potential.

If you read the missiles specs,it mentions a minimum and a maximum range,
What does that mean? Why would a missile have a 'munimum range' ?

If you know the answer if this,we may go on to further explainations,otherwise no point in arguing with any if you.

 

[rockstarIN]

So we did not learn any thing from JV of brahmos that we can not modified it to be launch from a plane wow how long we are going to depand on other.

Its a JV, we both gonna use it and will make it to PAK-FA/FGFA.

Air launched such weapons are very costly.

 

[sexy gun]

Next they will make announcement for J50 due it's 6th Gen shupah shtealthh it won't be visible.. but nevertheless pakistanis will be buying it

 

[xuxu1457]

That man was one developer of the missle
20 years ago, china had made Hypersonic missles C101(2 Mach) and C301(2.5Mach), but find Hypersonic missles are bigger, heaver, short range, easier detectability, then to the west style C802....
now with the development of engine, fuel and ammunition, small hypersonic missles came out, also another hypersonic missle C-805

 

[Abingdonboy]

Next they will make announcement for J50 due it's 6th Gen shupah shtealthh it won't be visible.. but nevertheless pakistanis will be buying it

SOOO TRUUUEEE!! But we don't know when PAF will buy it but we saw a pic of the PAF ACM being gifted a model of the J-50 so it's happening soon!!

 

[black_jack]

@ safriz , can your missile do this ?

watch from 1:00

 

[Safriz]

@ safriz , can your missile do this ?

watch from 1:00

Sorry i cant watch video,i am on mobile.

 

[Safriz]

Trying to make them understand that Pakistan and china has something faster than Brahmos air launched missile.
Brahmos is slow because its 'air breathing'.
This one is fast because its solid fuelled,and not air breathing.

Brahmos can sustain levelled flight,all along,which may help in radar detection avoidence.
But CM-400 cannot sustain level flight and will be visible on enemy radar all the way.
But that deficiency is covered by very high speed. Mach 4 cruise speed,and then a gravity+Propellant aided terminal phase dive of mach 5.5.
Bypassing the complicated and expensive design of ramjet,and making it part guided rocket,part cruise missile and powering it by solid fuel instead of kerosene...has made CM-400 cheaper,faster and simple...

 

[Abingdonboy]

Trying to make them understand that Pakistan and china has something faster than Brahmos air launched missile.
Brahmos is slow because its 'air breathing'.
This one is fast because its solid fuelled,and not air breathing.

Brahmos can sustain levelled flight,all along,which may help in radar detection avoidence.
But CM-400 cannot sustain level flight and will be visible on enemy radar all the way.
But that deficiency is covered by very high speed. Mach 4 cruise speed,and then a gravity+Propellant aided terminal phase dive of mach 5.5.
Bypassing the complicated and expensive design of ramjet,and making it part guided rocket,part cruise missile and powering it by solid fuel instead of kerosene...has made CM-400 cheaper,faster and simple...

If any Indian member acted like you guys, talking about the Bhramos on the JF-17(or any other thread) they'd have their posts deleted and be given infractions/bannings.

 

[black_jack]

Trying to make them understand that Pakistan and china has something faster than Brahmos air launched missile.
Brahmos is slow because its 'air breathing'.
This one is fast because its solid fuelled,and not air breathing.

Brahmos can sustain levelled flight,all along,which may help in radar detection avoidence.
But CM-400 cannot sustain level flight and will be visible on enemy radar all the way.
But that deficiency is covered by very high speed. Mach 4 cruise speed,and then a gravity+Propellant aided terminal phase dive of mach 5.5.
Bypassing the complicated and expensive design of ramjet,and making it part guided rocket,part cruise missile and powering it by solid fuel instead of kerosene...has made CM-400 cheaper,faster and simple...

please comment on accuracy of CM-400