India denies Holbrooke entry

[chinapakistan]

and some countries premier jumping on his seat when a monk is traveling to some parts of their neighbouring country just seems to b as funny as a monkey

Sorry, I think some country's old polician playing 4P with infancy girls and still call themself a good polician thinking for his country is more like an animal and more funny.

 

[Mahakaya]

Are you talking about use the one which be used as a target during recent indian failed anti-missle test? It dispeared after launching....... I think if you use it target china then you will find thailand be bombed by it.

Well it was not the interceptor that failed, it was the Prithvi which was re-designed to follow a trajectory of an incoming ballistic missile. For test purposes there needs to be a tinkering done to the actual flight path algorithms of the missile which can cause problems.

Here is a little something for you to consider shutting up or put your money where your mouth is:

Lets try and see China trying to mimic something similar and we will find out how good you guys are. You claim those 11000+ KM on your missiles with a payload metric which measures its yield not the weight.

We show our range on the basis of a 1000 Kg (not Kt) conventional nuclear war head. Do you understand the difference. You guys don't have slightest of Idea of the range of our missiles. And when our scientists say that our tech is more mature than yours then we have every reason to believe in it!

If you disagree then feel free to retort and back your claims!

 

[Mahakaya]

Until India converts the 340 million people living in poverty and slums to a middle class, it will be considered a 3rd world country. Producing 80,000 IT engineers out of 1.2 billion people in not a great achievement. I have worked to dozens of Indian in the past 15 years and mostly are average.

Please do away with your personal attacks - 80,000 Engineers are not all from IIT. If you do not think they are special then go look up on Pranav Mistri on Youtube and you will know. 80,000 engineers for any economy is a huge number. How many does China produce out of its 1.3 billion population?

IITs take the best of the Wall street jobs. I have personally experienced it. These grads make around 150,000 Dollars per annum plus 100-150% bonus. So please think again if they are special or not.

Anyhow - Correction your data is wrong - its around 260 million people and yeah you forgot to mention the 500-600 million middle class. So slowly and steadily we are rising.

Please feel free to retort cos quite frankly there is nothing much left in this argument.

 

[chinapakistan]

Well it was not the interceptor that failed, it was the Prithvi which was re-designed to follow a trajectory of an incoming ballistic missile. For test purposes there needs to be a tinkering done to the actual flight path algorithms of the missile which can cause problems.

Here is a little something for you to consider shutting up or put your money where your mouth is:

YouTube - India's Anti-ballistic Missile - PAD -Intercepts Medium Range Ballistic Missile -Part 7

Lets try and see China trying to mimic something similar and we will find out how good you guys are. You claim those 11000+ KM on your missiles with a payload metric which measures its yield not the weight.

We show our range on the basis of a 1000 Kg (not Kt) conventional nuclear war head. Do you understand the difference. You guys don't have slightest of Idea of the range of our missiles. And when our scientists say that our tech is more mature than yours then we have every reason to believe in it!

If you disagree then feel free to retort and back your claims!

It is a world well known joke. A technology with success rate under 50% is a more mature. Your scientists is a joker, really. I dont think you have any reason to believe it. The world have seen your missle capability during recent failed missle test.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

nice video Mahakaya...

 

[Mahakaya]

I think you couldn't be more wrong. My response will not be exhaustive because there have books written focusing on the history of US-Pak interdependence, however, here is a very brief response.

You conveniently gloss over the fact that the US or any industrialized nation, frankly, would be crazy NOT to have business interests in the world's sixth most populous nation! You forget also, the fact that Pakistan is not just a country but the only viable gateway to dozens of millions more people in one of the most geostrategically important regions in the world. And of course, you neglect the recent history of US economic interests, including one of the major reasons why the US became anti-Taliban... UNOCAL... pipeline deals anyone?

I don't know where you get your information from, but driving around on the streets of Pakistan I see Bank of America, Citibank, McDonalds, KFC, GNC, Pizza Hutt, Subway, Pepsi, Coke, General Electric and an unending list of premier American companies doing amazingly well, growing in leaps and bounds.

Without Pakistan, there is no development in Afghanistan, no transformation of that country into a US client, and no transit of dozens of billions of dollars worth of supplies sent by US companies. Without Pakistan, there is no Central Asian pipeline opening in the warm waters of the Arabian Sea... the US needs this energy.

Pakistan's Saindak mine, Thar coal, gas reserves and other mineral and energy assets offer hundreds of billions of dollars of opportunity to global companies. The $5B Khalifa refinery is just one small example. There are two other refineries currently under construction. There are multiple energy projects focused on using Thar reserves that are already under construction... for whom do you think these programs create economic opportunities?

Finally, please never forget that whatever non-local businesses do operate in India, they does so because relations between Pakistan and India are relatively non-violent at the moment. In the event that things took a turn for the worst between India and Pakistan, businesses in India will also be impacted. The chairman of GE played a role in defusing one of the past Pakistan-India crises... there was a reason for that...

Listen Buddy all those counting the reserves of minerals talk does not change much!

The point is simple, even if you see the number of american or western companies in Pakistan is only limited to the domestic potential for the lack of indigenous ones or pro western policy in business.

Not saying that this cannot change in the future but for the moment that is the case. But definitely once pak's economy is on the rise you will have investments too. But every country has specific comparative advantages and I am sure u guys have them too.

On the other hand India is churning out big contracts and right now playing a catching up game with China in terms of the money invested. The population of India is the very reason for so much boom as well cos the consumer base is just too BIG and given Industries are just starting to come up there is a huge potential going forward, so as of now US companies or companies around the globe have vested interest in India and we all know Multinationals run pretty much government policies in their home countries!

 

[Mahakaya]

It is a world well known joke. A technology with success rate under 50% is a more mature. Your scientists is a joker, really. I dont think you have any reason to believe it. The world have seen your missle capability during recent failed missle test.

Again have proof then show it - Else piss off!

again if your tech is not mature enough then forget about MAKING INTERCEPTORS!

 

[Mirza Jatt]

It is a world well known joke. A technology with success rate under 50% is a more mature. Your scientists is a joker, really. I dont think you have any reason to believe it. The world have seen your missle capability during recent failed missle test.

Thank you....scientists from China are really good...all the best to China...I hope that you'll stop rolling on the floor and start a healthy discussion.BTW its gud to know that you people are still under the illusion that Indian missile programme is a failure..its is more fun when the you find your enemy taken by surprise.

 

[chinapakistan]

Again have proof then show it - Else piss off!

again if your tech is not mature enough then forget about MAKING INTERCEPTORS!

At least, I think we are mature than some country. At least, we can control our missle after lauching.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Again have proof then show it - Else piss off!

again if your tech is not mature enough then forget about MAKING INTERCEPTORS!

buddy the world now knows the quality of chinese tech and its products...and we have wasted hours disucssing this.their quality ishn't going to improve..so forget it and lets stick to the topic or else they'll find this as a very nice excuse for their 50 cents comission..BTW that was nice video.

 

[chinapakistan]

Thank you....scientists from China are really good...all the best to China...I hope that you'll stop rolling on the floor and start a healthy discussion.BTW its gud to know that you people are still under the illusion that Indian missile programme is a failure..its is more fun when the you find your enemy taken by surprise.

I dont say chinese scientists is the best, but some indian member here are really blustering, just like most indian media and polician. BTW: I dont say you missile programme is a failure, but your missile can be a mature one comparing the US, China and Russia. You'd better let your indian fellow stop doing the indian traditional culture-Bluster.

 

[chinapakistan]

buddy the world now knows the quality of chinese tech and its products...and we have wasted hours disucssing this.their quality ishn't going to improve..so forget it and lets stick to the topic or else they'll find this as a very nice excuse for their 50 cents comission..BTW that was nice video.

Wow, 50 cents? You know that just post 2 posts can make me a rich man in indian village. And by the way, can indian produce any products? Can indian produce stable electrisic power? Why indian import all electrisic machinary from china, why you guys import metro from china? Bcoz you have a very weak industry and dont hace the tech.
BTW: You should thanks to the chinese company, bcoz of them, you can use internet here and BS. I feel very sorry to indian people, their importer only seek cheap products in china just bcoz most indian cant offer good products.

 

[thebrownguy]

Wow, 50 cents? You know that just post 2 posts can make me a rich man in indian village. And by the way, can indian produce any products? Can indian produce stable electrisic power? Why indian import all electrisic machinary from china, why you guys import metro from china? Bcoz you have a very weak industry and dont hace the tech.
BTW: You should thanks to the chinese company, bcoz of them, you can use internet here and BS.

Hi buddy, i had to ask you a question. Something unrelated to this topic, even unrelated to the "global economics" you have been discussing.

Do you come up with these posts while making fake Louis Vuitton bags?

 

[thebrownguy]

I think you should say this to the indian who start trolling, not just take a indian side. And by the way, are you post your this BS while you are around by millons untouchable people?

Ok is it fake watches you make den? Or fake shoes? Seems like a frustrating job.

 

[prototype]

Wow, 50 cents? You know that just post 2 posts can make me a rich man in indian village.

thats were i adore chinese people

i like their 50 cent party emloyement scheme

just post some crap of the communist dady and earn 50 cent per post,and u r no more poor