India Cuts Order of FGFA, F-35 on the Horizon?

[king of pop]

Fresh tensions in Indo-Russian
bilateral ties are bound to surface
soon as India is set to cut its Fifth
Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA)
order by one-third. India will now
be inducting only 144 FGFA instead
of the originally scheduled 214.
The reduced purchase size could be
to accommodate potential interest
in the Lockheed Martin F-35A
aircraft, which had earlier been
rejected by both the Indian Air
Force and the Defense Ministry.
Both of these organizations have
denied the F-35 rumors.
Significantly, all of the 144 FGFA
India now intends to purchase will
be single-seater jets. Earlier, the
Indian Air Force planned to
procure 214 units– 166 single-
seaters and 48 twin-seaters.
According to sources, India’s
decision to reduce the number of
jets it will purchase was driven
primarily by two overarching
concerns: production delays and
cost over-runs, both of which have
been major irritants in Indo-
Russian defense ties. The first
prototype of the fighter jet is likely
to be delivered to India in 2014,
followed by additional planes in
2017 and 2019. Earlier, India
expected to induct the jets into
service sometime between 2017
and 2018. Recently Russia said the
FGFA would not be delivered until
2020.
Still, the news of India’s reduced
purchase is likely to irritate Russia
and it will be worth closely
watching how Moscow responds.
Russia has already delayed
President Vladimir Putin’s trip to
India by seven weeks. Putin was
initially scheduled to visit New
Delhi from October 31 to
November 1 st, but will now arrive
in the Indian Capital on December
24.
India's Hindustan Aeronatics
Limited (HAL) is to build the FGFA,
a derivative of the Sukhoi T-50, in
India. India and Russia signed a
50:50 joint venture to build the
aircraft in December 2011.
http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2012/10/25/india-snubs-russia-on-fifth-generation-fighters/

 

[rockstarIN]

Whos news is this? Ajay Shukla?

 

[king of pop]

Knowledge.

don't see my post no. see my Knowledge.

 

[DroneMailini]

Moderators Please move the thread to Indian Defence Section.

We need to leave our AMCA and buy more F-35 for our Navy. Indian Navy Plans to Operate around 500 aircraft by 2027. If we are moving towards that F-35 would be a Ideal Choice, Further this move will tilt the strategic balance in South Asia.

 

[king of pop]

but f-35c is batter for 500. (where is indian flag?)

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Its just an initial order, which will be increased later. And T 50 programe is progressing at a faster pace than expected.
F 35 wont be available to India no sooner than 2030.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

where is the article link.? I haven;t heard any recent updates regarding Indian interest in the F-35 and i'd doubt they'd get it seeing its roughly the same price as the FGFA and to procure it along with the FGFA would prove to be a problem regarding logistics and training. AMCA that even underway or is that a bunch of hype and will it end up a flop like the LCA..?

 

[indian_foxhound]

but f-35c is batter for 500. (where is indian flag?)

We got have indiain flag on pdf. Otherwise all you will see indian flag. Pakistani chinesz can't take that

 

[janon]

We got have indiain flag on pdf. Otherwise all you will see indian flag. Pakistani chinesz can't take that

On topic:
The OP has just posted a lot of speculations. Both the MoD as well as IAF have clarified they have no plans to purchase the F-35. Putin's trip being delayed by 7 weeks is to show his anger at the FGFA program? Grow up.

 

[indian_foxhound]

indian flag look much better don't you think so

 

[king of pop]

but where is indian flag in pdf?

 

[faithfulguy]

where is the article link.? I haven;t heard any recent updates regarding Indian interest in the F-35 and i'd doubt they'd get it seeing its roughly the same price as the FGFA and to procure it along with the FGFA would prove to be a problem regarding logistics and training. AMCA that even underway or is that a bunch of hype and will it end up a flop like the LCA..?

If India is smart, it would get in line for F-35. Who knows if Russia can build the next generation aircraft any more. Its definitely a major risk. Better go with a proven system.

As for AMCA, it will be converted to a 6th generation plane once the 5th generation plane is obsolete.

Congrats to your 49ers. My Seahawks came up short. Otherwise, we would be meeting again. So you guys did dodge a bullet.

 

[Alphacharlie]

Fresh tensions in Indo-Russian
bilateral ties are bound to surface
soon as India is set to cut its Fifth
Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA)
order by one-third. India will now
be inducting only 144 FGFA instead
of the originally scheduled 214.
The reduced purchase size could be
to accommodate potential interest
in the Lockheed Martin F-35A
aircraft, which had earlier been
rejected by both the Indian Air
Force and the Defense Ministry.
Both of these organizations have
denied the F-35 rumors.
Significantly, all of the 144 FGFA
India now intends to purchase will
be single-seater jets. Earlier, the
Indian Air Force planned to
procure 214 units– 166 single-
seaters and 48 twin-seaters.
According to sources, India’s
decision to reduce the number of
jets it will purchase was driven
primarily by two overarching
concerns: production delays and
cost over-runs, both of which have
been major irritants in Indo-
Russian defense ties. The first
prototype of the fighter jet is likely
to be delivered to India in 2014,
followed by additional planes in
2017 and 2019. Earlier, India
expected to induct the jets into
service sometime between 2017
and 2018. Recently Russia said the
FGFA would not be delivered until
2020.
Still, the news of India’s reduced
purchase is likely to irritate Russia
and it will be worth closely
watching how Moscow responds.
Russia has already delayed
President Vladimir Putin’s trip to
India by seven weeks. Putin was
initially scheduled to visit New
Delhi from October 31 to
November 1 st, but will now arrive
in the Indian Capital on December
24.
India's Hindustan Aeronatics
Limited (HAL) is to build the FGFA,
a derivative of the Sukhoi T-50, in
India. India and Russia signed a
50:50 joint venture to build the
aircraft in December 2011.

Rejected. Inconclusive Article.

Russian Indian Ties are not based on Hand Shake of Needs rather Comradery

 

[Sergi]

@OP : where is the source
@Oscar @ANTIBODY please check this source

Something's need to be cleared..... Unfortunatly for a lot of times
1. for love of god how hard is to understand we aren't buying FGFA from. We are co-developers , co-producers. So it's up to us how much we want
2. USA didn't give the all tech and codes to existing partners let alone India. They didn't trust us with ATGM tech and you think they will with 5th Gen fighter ???

And for love of god how hard is to understand we aren't buying FGFA from Russia

 

[karan.1970]

India Cuts Order of FGFA Fighter. F-35 on the Horizon?

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