India belongs to Hindus first, over 50 countries for Muslims: Shiv Sena

[Well.wisher]

I understand that Abrahamic faiths like Christianity and Islam have no concept of soil, as they have come latest and grown largely inorganically.

But ancient faiths like Hinduism are very strongly bound to blood and soil.

India is and will always be Hindu soil.

Islam is and will always be a guest faith here.

Such a truth needs to be recognized. And accepted.

Revisionism and rationalizing based on alien concepts will not work here.

Cheers, Doc

Islam isn't a guest it's a conqueror, it's always been and will continue its history .

 

[padamchen]

Islam isn't a guest it's a conqueror, it's always been and will continue its history .

Do Indian Muslims look like conquerors to you?

They don't to me.

Maybe we see things differently?

Cheers, Doc

 

[The Eagle]

Revisionism and rationalizing based on alien concepts will not work here.

Like ???

 

[El Sidd]

Do Indian Muslims look like conquerors to you?

They don't to me.

Maybe we see things differently?

Cheers, Doc

You should probably visit a madrassah in India.

They teach everything you need to know there.

They live in their own virtual reality and use Taj Mahal and babri mandir as tools of the psychological warfare.

 

[mirage]

Some uneducated idiot, who refused to tolerate the gentle irony being used, and the occasional spicy word, and started misusing his powers. Don't worry, he has been punished and the only red thing in future about the honourable Pakistani member will be his face.

oh , joe sir , always read your replies very carefully as every word you write counts . i too was banned just came back . yes he said that what you say . was curios so asked him . yes , we shall respect the senior members specially when they are impartial . i always .

 

[padamchen]

Like ???

Please ignore me.

I'm doing the same.

Within the rules?

Cheers, Doc

 

[Well.wisher]

Do Indian Muslims look like conquerors to you?

They don't to me.

Maybe we see things differently?

Cheers, Doc

Did u just call indian muslims ' guest ' in india ? @SOUTHie ( sorry to mention u again , but I can't drink this fun drink alone ) .

 

[padamchen]

Did u just call indian muslims ' guest ' in india ? @SOUTHie ( sorry to mention u again , but I can't drink this fun drink alone ) .

Not at all.

My words are VERY clear.

Indian Muslims are of this soil. Of our blood (I say this rhetorically of course, as a Parsi).

Cheers, Doc

 

[The Eagle]

Please ignore me.

I'm doing the same.

Within the rules?

Cheers, Doc

Don't play games. I quoted your words and asked to describe. Don't say that you were not asked first.

 

[saiyan0321]

I understand that Abrahamic faiths like Christianity and Islam have no concept of soil, as they have come latest and grown largely inorganically.

Agreed that Islam doesn't have concept single soil and land. Its a brotherhood that claims all sovereignty belongs to Allah. Migration or hijrat is a core principle and is one of the most important aspects of religion with several narrations and points towards migration to escape cruelty or in search for better pastures and it is considered a blessing. So yes we struggle with concept of soil which is why Muslim nations are struggling with concept of core nationalism and modern statehood which is based entirely on specific pieces of land.

But ancient faiths like Hinduism are very strongly bound to blood and soil.

I would agree but Hinduism is a very evolving religion that has seen many changes, additions and morphings and branches expanding greatly but yes Hinduism with all its changes has more sealed land structure.

India is and will always be Hindu soil.

I would beg to disagree. India would always be for its inhabitants that have existed here. No matter what faith they may hail from, it will always be theres. On this we may agree to disagree.

Islam is and will always be a guest faith here.

Lands, states, cultures and religions all evolve and change with time. The people who have existed in modern day india for hundreds of years cannot be deprived of that right simply bcz they chose to change their faith. It doesnt work that way. Faith is a personal matter and every Indian has a right to chose it without forsaking his Indian identity. Islam is now Indian. It became that when the first person in contemporary india converted to islam.

Such a truth needs to be recognized. And accepted.

Revisionism and rationalizing based on alien concepts will not work here.

I would not go into much depth quite frankly. This is India's internal matter and I stay away and advocate others to also stay away from another country's internal matter.

It will only widen th chasm.

Cheers, Doc

And cheers to you as well.

 

[El Sidd]

Did u just call indian muslims ' guest ' in india ? @SOUTHie ( sorry to mention u again , but I can't drink this fun drink alone ) .

We have many losers.

@Bharat Muslim @SoulSpokesman han ustaad jinnah ka Pakistan to hogaya ethhe Pakistani forum pe azaadi. Bharat me dama dam mast qalandar. Ylh ko btaon?

Who else is an Indian muzzie here?

 

[padamchen]

Agreed that Islam doesn't have concept single soil and land. Its a brotherhood that claims all sovereignty belongs to Allah. Migration or hijrat is a core principle and is one of the most important aspects of religion with several narrations and points towards migration to escape cruelty or in search for better pastures and it is considered a blessing. So yes we struggle with concept of soil which is why Muslim nations are struggling with concept of core nationalism and modern statehood which is based entirely on specific pieces of land.



I would agree but Hinduism is a very evolving religion that has seen many changes, additions and morphings and branches expanding greatly but yes Hinduism with all its changes has more sealed land structure.



I would beg to disagree. India would always be for its inhabitants that have existed here. No matter what faith they may hail from, it will always be theres. On this we may agree to disagree.



Lands, states, cultures and religions all evolve and change with time. The people who have existed in modern day india for hundreds of years cannot be deprived of that right simply bcz they chose to change their faith. It doesnt work that way. Faith is a personal matter and every Indian has a right to chose it without forsaking his Indian identity. Islam is now Indian. It became that when the first person in contemporary india converted to islam.







I would not go into much depth quite frankly. This is India's internal matter and I stay away and advocate others to also stay away from another country's internal matter.

It will only widen th chasm.



And cheers to you as well.

I appreciate your measured post.

Please read my post to well wisher.

Should clarify.

Cheers, Doc

 

[El Sidd]

Do Indian Muslims look like conquerors to you?

They don't to me.

Maybe we see things differently?

Cheers, Doc

@SOUTHie timaatar saste to mil rahe hai? Malik ka ahsaan hai. Or kiya chaiye. Haina?

Ab btao saste timaatar acha ya mehnge timaatar.

@SoulSpokesman ylh says kesa diya

 

[Well.wisher]

We have many losers.

@Bharat Muslim @SoulSpokesman han ustaad jinnah ka Pakistan to hogaya ethhe Pakistani forum pe azaadi. Bharat me dama dam mast qalandar. Ylh ko btaon?

Who else is an Indian muzzie here?

Aap maayoos q ho rhy ho . Me to sirf taang kheench ri thi indian muslims ki .

 

[Indika]

Islam isn't a guest it's a conqueror, it's always been and will continue its history .

good, you accepted it openly. Every one knows it ,there will always be conflict with conquerors & resistance to them and they will always be aliens.