India bans Islamic preacher Zakir Naik's NGO for 5 years with immediate effect

[Sliver]

Havent he invited followers of other religions to debate ??? he provide fare chance to others to prove him wrong ... did he redicule without giving any logic or basis ? did he redicule other religions based on quran or based on what weitten in the persons own book ?

Brother just one argumennt to you ... just for a moment think that muslims are the right one just imagine ... and heaven and hell are for real ... so he is trying to convince you that you are going to the wrong direction and will end up in hell forever ... lets suppose if he you got convinced then who will be beneficiary ? he or you ?

My bro even if you suppose islam is false and he is giving you wrong direction but still whatever he is asking will it have any benefit to him ? is he asking money or your time ? he believes in a concept and based on that concept he thinks that if you continue to follow other religion you will be doomed so he is trying to warn you ... if you dont like him just ignore him ...

so basically you say: "he has only ridiculed other religions because he thinks he is right and others are wrong" - the exact definition of a radical . IN this case - a radical Islamist.

@Kaka420 am i Wrong in that assumption? @WAJsal @waz

 

[The Accountant]

so basically you say: "he has only ridiculed other religions because he thinks he is right and others are wrong" - the exact definition of a radical . IN this case - a radical Islamist.

@Kaka420 am i Wrong in that assumption? @WAJsal @waz

No I am not saying that ... Don't infer meaning of your own ... I am saying he invites people to debate and people come willingly with all the preparations ... With the intentions to prove him wrong ... With the intentions to redicule him but in the end he not only shows them how wrong your belief systems are but also from their very own literature ...

If someone sensitive to religion do not engage with him in debate and do not listen to him ...

Why you calling him redical ? Is he eforcing something you ???

By this definition PDF forum is also redical as this very forum allows you to discuss any topics but within oversight of MODs and if mods thinks that you are doing something wrong then they can even ban you ,,, so would that be redical ??? no it would be not as you came by your own choice ,,, and you accepted to be monitored by mods .. similarly people engaging in debate with him get engaged by their own will knowing that they might be proven wrong ... so whats wrong in that ???

 

[Sliver]

No I am not saying that ... Don't infer meaning of your own ... I am saying he invites people to debate and people come willingly with all the preparations ... With the intentions to prove him wrong ... With the intentions to redicule him but in the end he not only shows them how wrong your belief systems are but also from their very own literature ...

If someone sensitive to religion do not engage with him in debate and do not listen to him ...

Why you calling him redical ? Is he eforcing something you ???

By this definition PDF forum is also redical as this very forum allows you to discuss any topics but within oversight of MODs and if mods thinks that you are doing something wrong then they can even ban you ,,, so would that be redical ??? no it would be not as you came by your own choice ,,, and you accepted to be monitored by mods .. similarly people engaging in debate with him get engaged by their own will knowing that they might be proven wrong ... so whats wrong in that ???

you said he does not ridicule other religions or gods.
he does ridicule other religions and other gods and that creates communal tensions. and then you went into a tangent of "why he ridicules other gods/belief systems". by your argument, I can ridicule your belief system too.. and that too with sound logic. I am a full blooded atheist. and I know that religion is flawed (all religions). but that does not mean I would go about berating such ideas.

I am not banned here because I follow rules here. I understand the hurt people get and how important islam is for the people here. Similar thing someone as "learned" as Zakir Naik should know. - not to insult other religions, not to ridicule other peoples belief systems. if the law states that he should not do that - then he wil be banned (just like I would be banned in this forum).

 

[The Accountant]

you said he does not ridicule other religions or gods.
he does ridicule other religions and other gods and that creates communal tensions. and then you went into a tangent of "why he ridicules other gods/belief systems". by your argument, I can ridicule your belief system too.. and that too with sound logic. I am a full blooded atheist. and I know that religion is flawed (all religions). but that does not mean I would go about berating such ideas.

I am not banned here because I follow rules here. I understand the hurt people get and how important islam is for the people here. Similar thing someone as "learned" as Zakir Naik should know. - not to insult other religions, not to ridicule other peoples belief systems. if the law states that he should not do that - then he wil be banned (just like I would be banned in this forum).

If you are athist then why bother about religion ... Go and chill and keep wasting your life by thinking that you are modified form monkey ...

I am not rediculing you but telling you in simplest way your own beliec system ... If you thinks its rediculing then kindly review your belief system otherwise feel proud to be an improved form of monkey

 

[Ajayk]

I am completely against Fascist Hindu govt banning Zakir Naik.

They have taken away one of my greatest source of entertainment.

The 2+2 theory of Zakir Naik to explain why no temples are allowed in Saudi, is one of the greatest modern scientific achievements.

I will miss "Chapter 2 verse 6" monologue for any question hence forth.

What have you done BJP!!
What the hell have you guys done?!!!

you said he does not ridicule other religions or gods.
he does ridicule other religions and other gods and that creates communal tensions. and then you went into a tangent of "why he ridicules other gods/belief systems". by your argument, I can ridicule your belief system too.. and that too with sound logic. I am a full blooded atheist. and I know that religion is flawed (all religions). but that does not mean I would go about berating such ideas.

I am not banned here because I follow rules here. I understand the hurt people get and how important islam is for the people here. Similar thing someone as "learned" as Zakir Naik should know. - not to insult other religions, not to ridicule other peoples belief systems. if the law states that he should not do that - then he wil be banned (just like I would be banned in this forum).

The universal golden rule is a most wondrous thing for humanity. If only we followed it.

 

[Baba Google]

so basically you say: "he has only ridiculed other religions because he thinks he is right and others are wrong" - the exact definition of a radical . IN this case - a radical Islamist.

@Kaka420 am i Wrong in that assumption? @WAJsal @waz

indeed he promotes a solid takfiri mindset and takfiri mindset has nothing to do with pure and real Islam (full stop)

 

[Cherokee]

Dude's a goof . Glad he was banned . Can't wait for same happening to yogi adityanath .

indeed he promotes a solid takfiri mindset and takfiri mindset has nothing to do with pure and real Islam (full stop)

I have a problem here . Lets not define "real Islam" . your Islam is as real to you as is Zakir Naik's to his . Every person have his or her own flavor when it comes to religion .

 

[Baba Google]

I have a problem here . Lets not define "real Islam" . your Islam is as real to you as is Zakir Naik's to his . Every person have his or her own flavor when it comes to religion .

im not talking about "my real Islam" here, "Takfir" is condemned by all major or minor schools (of thought) in Islam.

 

[Cherokee]

im not talking about "my real Islam" here, "Takfir" is condemned by all major or minor schools (of thought) in Islam.

All schools differ on takfir but no point on getting on debate here . My point is your experience of Islam is as valid as his .

 

[Ajayk]

im not talking about "my real Islam" here, "Takfir" is condemned by all major or minor schools (of thought) in Islam.

Let me put it this way.
For me, who is not a muslim, it makes little difference. Most of us have little knowledge of Islam. For most of 'us', the daily life of a muslim family itself is unknown, let alone understanding Quran or the various branches of Islam.

All we see is what the person who can shout the biggest and Zakir Naik happens to be one of the biggest shouters out there. Watching him shout things against Hinduism and Lakhs of muslims in the audience doing little to challenge his thought process, gives me little comfort.

It's something like Trump shouting against and thousands of his supporters cheering him on...I am sure you did not feel that secure or hopefu..

 

[barbarosa]

im not talking about "my real Islam" here, "Takfir" is condemned by all major or minor schools (of thought) in Islam.

Hindu are the real enemy of Islam,Allah Almighty has decided to finish this nation from the earth, other nations have some thinks about God,may be they have too but they have made some other sources instead of God.
Akbar ala abadi has said in his poetry regarding this nation about 200 years ago,
Raqeebon nay report lekhwai hay ja ja ke thanay main,
keh akbar nam leta hay khuda ka ess zamanay main.

 

[Ajayk]

Hindu are the real enemy of Islam,Allah Almighty has decided to finish this nation from the earth, other nations have some thinks about God,may be they have too but they have made some other sources instead of God.
Akbar ala abadi has said in his poetry regarding this nation about 200 years ago,
Raqeebon nay report lekhwai hay ja ja ke thanay main,
keh akbar nam leta hay khuda ka ess zamanay main.

Good luck with that

 

[Sliver]

If you are athist then why bother about religion ... Go and chill and keep wasting your life by thinking that you are modified form monkey ...

I am not rediculing you but telling you in simplest way your own beliec system ... If you thinks its rediculing then kindly review your belief system otherwise feel proud to be an improved form of monkey

what happens when I ridicule your way of life then? a ban? a hurt sentiment? feeling of blasphemy? the kind of hurt you associate to your beliefs, you dont do that for other belief systems. which is exactly the reason for so much hatred floating around.

we are all modified monkeys. even you. even if you dont want to believe.

 

[Baba Google]

what happens when I ridicule your way of life then? a ban? a hurt sentiment? feeling of blasphemy? the kind of hurt you associate to your beliefs, you dont do that for other belief systems. which is exactly the reason for so much hatred floating around.

we are all modified monkeys. even you. even if you dont want to believe.

Well they say being a baandar is better thn being a paidawaaar of incest... no offence to any theist (im also a theist)

 

[Pakistanisage]

Good move. Govt need to take more such bold steps.

Great move. Now the 250 million Muslims can realign their loyalties towards Pakistan.
We definitely need some inside help from Indian Muslims.