In Rotterdam, posters of Jewish man and Muslim woman kissing spark a scandal

[Georg]

True but the point that was made was about private individuals and not about state discrimination.

he claimed the guy and his wife were forced to leave a part of the city ... that is something only a officel side could order so I call the whole story BULLSHIT

 

[Penguin]

thanks for sharing. they are promoting their freedom of expression and choice. this is what defines their country
although a picture that is missing is that of a mixed race couple. even in Netherlands few parts. black and white couple are seen with a dim view.

These are mixed race and mixed ethnicity couples, I think you missed that.

Mixed relationships vary according to background
24/01/2017 15:00
The number of marriages or registered partnerships between native Dutch people and people with a migration background varies, depending on the origin of the non-native partner. The smallest proportion of mixed couples is seen among men and women with Turkish or Moroccan roots. They mostly have partners from their own origin group, according to figures released by Statistics Netherlands (CBS).
Among the 4.2 million couples in the Netherlands (2016), nearly 659 thousand households - 16 percent of all couples - are made up of a native Dutch partner (either male or female) and a partner with a migration background. Most common are Indonesian-Dutch households (160 thousand), followed by German-Dutch (154 thousand) and Belgian-Dutch households (44 thousand).

There are relatively few mixed couples with one partner of Turkish or Moroccan descent and the other from a native Dutch background: nearly 10 thousand Dutch men and women have a partner of Turkish origin, while over 9 thousand have a partner with Moroccan roots. Married or registered partners of people with Turkish background (male or female) are native Dutch in 11 percent of the cases; this share is 12 percent among those of Moroccan origin. These are mostly couples consisting of a native Dutch female partner and a Turkish or Moroccan male partner.
People from other origin groups are more likely to establish a relationship with someone from outside of that group. For example, 46 percent of all couples including a Surinamese-origin partner are Surinamese-Dutch couples. Almost 90 percent of all couples including a Belgian or a German partner are Belgian-Dutch or German-Dutch couples respectively.

Nearly always in matrimony
Aside from preferring a partner from within their own origin group, people of Turkish or Moroccan origin are also more traditional and get married relatively more often compared to other (origin) couples. Cohabitation is almost non-existent among these groups: nine in ten persons with a Turkish or Moroccan background live together in matrimony. Among couples including a partner with Surinamese or Antillean background, slightly more than half are married couples.
https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2017/03/mixed-relationships-vary-according-to-background

In the Netherlands, 1 in 6 of marriages and registered partnerships are mixed ethnicity and/or mixed race. 16 percent is in 2017 is UP from 13% in 2001

Mixed marriages
08/10/2001 10:00
There are nearly 3.5 million married couples in the Netherlands. In thirteen percent of these marriages, at least one of the partners was born outside the Netherlands. This percentage is higher than the percentage of non-Dutch born people in the population of the country. A total 1.5 million people who live in the Netherlands were not born here, nine percent of the population. The former percentage is higher than the latter because a large number of people born abroad are married to people born in the Netherlands.

There are nearly half a million married couples of whom one or both the partners were born abroad. In half of these, both partners come from another country. In the other half, there are slightly more couples with a foreign wife than with a foreign husband.

Large differences
Traditionally many marriage migrants come from Belgium and Germany to the Netherlands. Slightly more women come from these countries to marry Dutch men than the other way around.

The composition of marriages with one partner of Mediterranean origin is remarkable. For example, two out of three Dutch-Italian marriages are between an Italian man and a Dutch woman. Many labour migrants arriving in the early sixties found a Dutch wife and stayed on here.

The situation is completely different for people from Turkey and Morocco, for whom mixed marriages are very rare: in more than 85 percent of marriages involving these nationalities, both partners come from the same country. More people from Suriname, on the other hand, marry a Dutch partner: one in three marriages are to Dutch born partners.

Argentinean women more popular than Argentinean men
Women from South America and countries like the Philippines and Thailand are popular among Dutch men. In 2000 there were some 600 married couples of whom one or both partners came from Argentina In half of these couples the woman was Argentinean, in one quarter the man and in the remaining quarter both partners came form Argentina.
https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2001/41/mixed-marriages

Mixed race kids a new phenomenon in the Netherlands? We think not.
June 11, 2014
Mixed children are a growing phenomenon in the Netherlands (up from 30% to 37% from 2007 in Amsterdam)
http://africasacountry.com/2014/06/mixed-race-kids-a-new-phenomenon-in-the-netherlands-we-think-not/

Clearly, this doesn't mean mixed couples and their offspring do not face challenges, but the numbers do inform that it is more and more common in most groups.

 

[flamer84]

True but the point that was made was about private individuals and not about state discrimination.

You certainly don't move out of a neighbourhood because they all turn on you for being in a mixed couple. ..not in a predominantly white neighbourhood that is...in other areeas. ....well...you know. ...

 

[UKBengali]

he claimed the guy and his wife were forced to leave a part of the city ... that is something only a officel side could order so I call the whole story BULLSHIT

I think he meant they left voluntarily due to racism
from local individuals.

 

[Georg]

I think he meant they left voluntarily due to racism
from local individuals.

even that is impossible in a nation were 1 of 6 couples are mixed.... this story is simple fact utterly crap... means every 6 houshold in your local community in Holland are mixed couples and in most parts of europe asian people (China, Japan, Thai, Indonesia, Philipines, Korea, Vietnam etc.) are very welcome ... they are mostly calm friendly try to integrate, work hard and enjoy life like most people in the west do, you find there no extremist political and religious

just a example from my own family...

my aunt ... the older sister of my father went to a hotel managing school in Munic in the early 1960´s there she meet here later husband Billo Oberoi... like she he was student at the hotel managing school and he was indian. They married got two sons and life since that time in Germany and NEVER had racist, ethnic or cultural motivated problems... they only enjoyed funny moments with local Germans... as she first time visit together with him my grandparents it was during carnival ..as a sign of respect and honor to my grandparents he was wearing a traditional indian clothing and he was good looking in it like a Bollywood moviestar long befor Bollywood existed... on the streets everyone was giving him thumbs up for his outstanding carnival costume ... after he explained that this is no costume they always laught together and he made quickly tons of friends... no one would have ever thought to force him out of parts of the city..

 

[Penguin]

even that is impossible in a nation were 1 of 6 couples are mixed.... this story is simple fact utterly crap... means every 6 houshold in your local community in Holland are mixed couples and in most parts of europe asian people (China, Japan, Thai, Indonesia, Philipines, Korea, Vietnam etc.) are very welcome ... they are mostly calm friendly try to integrate, work hard and enjoy life like most people in the west do, you find there no extremist political and religious

You should read the CBS/Statistic Netherlands articles. Their numbers for 'mixed ethinicity' include e.g. Dutch-Belgian etc. Which means it is not necessarily black-white couples. But what they also show is that the proportion of mixed ethinicity and race couples varies by the specific ethnic group involved. I.e. Surinam (often black)-Dutch or Indoneasian-Dutch couples are far common and accepted (in the non-Dutch ethnic group) than e.g. Turkish_Dutch and Moroccan-Dutch.

 

[Georg]

You should read the CBS/Statistic Netherlands articles. Their numbers for 'mixed ethinicity' include e.g. Dutch-Belgian etc. Which means it is not necessarily black-white couples. But what they also show is that the proportion of mixed ethinicity and race couples varies by the specific ethnic group involved. I.e. Surinam (often black)-Dutch or Indoneasian-Dutch couples are far common and accepted (in the non-Dutch ethnic group) than e.g. Turkish_Dutch and Moroccan-Dutch.

mixed is mixed... no matter if they are close ethnic or not... mixed coupls are generaly open minded...

and Indoneasian are no asian ehtic group?

as I said I quote utterly crap on his claim

 

[UKBengali]

even that is impossible in a nation were 1 of 6 couples are mixed.... this story is simple fact utterly crap... means every 6 houshold in your local community in Holland are mixed couples and in most parts of europe asian people (China, Japan, Thai, Indonesia, Philipines, Korea, Vietnam etc.) are very welcome ... they are mostly calm friendly try to integrate, work hard and enjoy life like most people in the west do, you find there no extremist political and religious

just a example from my own family...

my aunt ... the older sister of my father went to a hotel managing school in Munic in the early 1960´s there she meet here later husband Billo Oberoi... like she he was student at the hotel managing school and he was indian. They married got two sons and life since that time in Germany and NEVER had racist, ethnic or cultural motivated problems... they only enjoyed funny moments with local Germans... as she first time visit together with him my grandparents it was during carnival ..as a sign of respect and honor to my grandparents he was wearing a traditional indian clothing and he was good looking in it like a Bollywood moviestar long befor Bollywood existed... on the streets everyone was giving him thumbs up for his outstanding carnival costume ... after he explained that this is no costume they always laught together and he made quickly tons of friends... no one would have ever thought to force him out of parts of the city..

Why are you making an issue out of this?

Like I say if things like this can happen in the UK, where mixed couples are very common, then it can happen in Holland. You need to disprove the claim with facts and not a story about your aunt lol

 

[Irfan Baloch]

have to LOL about this... something like this NEVER happen inside the EU... this is just bullshit talking

There is no existing law in any EU country that would allow officel sides to force people to change their home because of ethnic background ....

So the only thing that could happen he rented a flat from a racist house owner. if a private house owner does not extent the rental time for a flat, it is his right because he is the owner... what ever his motivation is is his own thing.
If you rent a flat from a racist you can expect problems if you have a partner with a different cultural or ethic background. Even than there is the possiblity to publish that in the news... such behaivor is a nice present for news channels and they would turn the racist house owner life into living hell were he cant get out of the house, everyone would pointing with the finger at him and call him NAZI...which is pretty rude in Holland because they suffered a lot under NAZI dictatorship.

So I call your story utterly crap....

not official but people
the threat was very real and the family in question was not LOLing

True but the point that was made was about private individuals and not about state discrimination.

correct .you got that right
it was the individuals leaving threatening letters through the letter box and constant nationalisation, they moved out of the countryside to much tolerant part of the city.
the police was informed earlier but the harassment continued the day they had moved in there.
it is the same section of people who only see non white men as molesters of white females . such groups are becoming mainstream due to the refugee crises etc and the right wing parties are adapting their stance as well.

These are mixed race and mixed ethnicity couples, I think you missed that.

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I dint miss anything .. the posters I agree have pretty much covered everything
but due to an experience of a Family I was just saying that a true black and white couple was not posted
but you have shown it with a girl in maroon scarf with a white male.
thanks for your post.

 

[Penguin]

someone I know had to move out of certain part of the city in Holland because the man was white with an Asian wife and it was seen as a threat to the white pure race and its future

This would be highly surprising as Dutch-Asian couples are quite common due to history with Indonesia (Moluccans, Chinese) and Surinam (Hindu's, Chinese). The most mixed marriages (160,000) are between Dutch and Indonesian nationals.

Might we examined the neighbourhood in question?

 

[Pakistani E]

Who cares about the poster? Some Muslims have developed emo feelings due to being culturally suppressed and ruled by foreign powers. Now they see little things and get triggered. The poster isn't as bad as abducting Hindu girls and marrying them with the sanction of the mullah, with police turning a blind, now is it? Get over it, you're not the only one with feelings.

 

[Solomon2]

do you approve or disapprove?

Strange question. Why would I be expected to approve or disapprove such a thing?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Strange question. Why would I be expected to approve or disapprove such a thing?

great
ANSWERING a question with a question

 

[Solomon2]

great
ANSWERING a question with a question

Do you like yellow?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Do you like yellow?

yes I do
vibrant yellow, its the color of summer in our part of the world. harvest or Basant festival