In Rotterdam, posters of Jewish man and Muslim woman kissing spark a scandal

[Metanoia]

what if it was a Jewish lady and Muslim man?
ok then? if so then why? lets not be gender specific and hypocrite

If it was a jewish lady then she'll be a deviant as per judaism. However, as per Islam, there is nothing illegal (might not be recommended) if a Muslim man marries a jewish lady.

Islam is very clear on this matter. Your or my emotions and personal likes/dislikes will not work in this regards.

 

[surya kiran]

I wonder when people will pay more attention to the holy books of their countries, namely the constitutions, instead of holy books of religions.

Ridiculous that in this age, after almost 50 years of reaching the moon, people are fighting over which ancient book allows what freaking marriage/flat earth and evolution instead of colonising the next bloody planet.

Fucking disgusting people.

 

[Penguin]

What a private citizen chooses to do or not do is up to them. The state should have no business interfering in the culture of anyone. Men and women for millennia have known culture to be something you can opt into or opt of out of, it's something that evolves and something that is non mandatory.

The state has a duty to protect it's citizens and punish anyone who breaks the law, it is not duty bound to define culture.

The state has a duty to make clear what the basic rights and obligations of citizens of the country are. And if there are people that would deny others those basic rights, the state can (and should) act upon that.

Anyway, you did read this segment?

"Initiated by a Muslim activist for women’s rights, Shirin Musa, the posters are part of a municipal initiative in support of women, mostly Muslim, who face abuse if they choose spouses their communities disapprove of. "

The above mentioned abuse is against the law of the land. End of story.

I find it strange that you would class women according to their religion or their country because of your interaction with a few people. Then again, I have this habit of classing women according to their horoscopes so perhaps unto each their own

Good one.

Campaign should go ahead and its medieval detractors should be jailed or deported.

Caned in public (like they do in Singapore)?

Seems like message is dont have muslim children very Devilish mind as typically folks who are in mixed relations don't really have a cultural or religious identity

Spoken like someone totally unfamilitar with Dutch society. Perhaps you should at some point explore the topic 'pillerization' in relation to our wonderfull country (why do people want to live here again? because it is so BAD here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillarisation
https://dutchreview.com/culture/history/pillarization-dutch-big-windows/

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! [modify by replacing SPANISH with another word as you see fit]

It is interesting to look at all these four variations of the poster and then at where all the outrage is coming from. I think that says something about the necessity of such a campaign.

 

[Avicenna]

The state has a duty to make clear what the basic rights and obligations of citizens of the country are. And if there are people that would deny others those basic rights, the state can (and should) act upon that.

Anyway, you did read this segment?

"Initiated by a Muslim activist for women’s rights, Shirin Musa, the posters are part of a municipal initiative in support of women, mostly Muslim, who face abuse if they choose spouses their communities disapprove of. "

The above mentioned abuse is against the law of the land. End of story.


Good one.


Caned in public (like they do in Singapore)?


Spoken like someone totally unfamilitar with Dutch society. Perhaps you should at some point explore the topic 'pillerization' in relation to our wonderfull country (why do people want to live here again? because it is so BAD here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillarisation
https://dutchreview.com/culture/history/pillarization-dutch-big-windows/

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! [modify by replacing SPANISH with another word as you see fit]

It is interesting to look at all these four variations of the poster and then at where all the outrage is coming from. I think that says something about the necessity of such a campaign.

Agreed. Now put some posters up with Muslim immigrants kissing the local white women.

 

[Penguin]

Agreed. Now put some posters up with Muslim immigrants kissing the local white women.

Fine with me. Or write the municipality of Rotterdam. Or, if you have balls, write the initiators.

Keep in mind, of course, that the program is aimed to inform women of non-Duch descent of their right to free choice in the Netherlands, who have already experienced abuse because of this in their own circle. So, in that context, what you suggest is rather silly and besides the point.

Religion, ethnic background, sexual preference and race are represented in the four images.

Constitution of the Kingdom of the Netherlands

Article 1
All persons in the Netherlands shall be treated equally in equal circumstances. Discrimination on the grounds of religion, belief, political opinion, race or sex or on other grounds whatsoever shall not be permitted.

https://www.government.nl/topics/co...tution-of-the-kingdom-of-the-netherlands-2008

Note it says 'all persons in the Netherlands', and not e.g. 'All citizens of the Netherlands'. So, the law applies to you even if you are just passing through and spend a couple of hours here.

 

[Georg]

btw the Netherland schools in all directions.... not only freedoom of choise ...it also schools this to their citizen...

 

[waz]

I'm currently being lined up for a poster where a Dutch football lasses group showers kisses upon a third generation minority Brit.

 

[Penguin]

I'm currently being lined up for a poster where a Dutch football lasses group showers kisses upon a third generation minority Brit.

You're in for some ...

 

[waz]

Wait huh, they don't cook for you. Slagroomtaart
Oh well I'm willing to cook all day for her.

 

[Penguin]

Wait huh, they don't cook for you. Slagroomtaart
Oh well I'm willing to cook all day for her.

Good, never fails ;-)

http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/category/occasion/romantic-meals/

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I wonder when people will pay more attention to the holy books of their countries, namely the constitutions, instead of holy books of religions.

Ridiculous that in this age, after almost 50 years of reaching the moon, people are fighting over which ancient book allows what freaking marriage/flat earth and evolution instead of colonising the next bloody planet.

Fucking disgusting people.

don't be disgusted
although some nations have sent astronauts & probes to moon and beyond but their majority of population has very narrow band width when it comes to our social conducts , religion might play its role but can be easily replaced by cast, race, color of skin or the political ideology or the football club you follow.

The state has a duty to make clear what the basic rights and obligations of citizens of the country are. And if there are people that would deny others those basic rights, the state can (and should) act upon that.

Anyway, you did read this segment?

"Initiated by a Muslim activist for women’s rights, Shirin Musa, the posters are part of a municipal initiative in support of women, mostly Muslim, who face abuse if they choose spouses their communities disapprove of. "

The above mentioned abuse is against the law of the land. End of story.


Good one.


Caned in public (like they do in Singapore)?


Spoken like someone totally unfamilitar with Dutch society. Perhaps you should at some point explore the topic 'pillerization' in relation to our wonderfull country (why do people want to live here again? because it is so BAD here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillarisation
https://dutchreview.com/culture/history/pillarization-dutch-big-windows/

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! [modify by replacing SPANISH with another word as you see fit]

It is interesting to look at all these four variations of the poster and then at where all the outrage is coming from. I think that says something about the necessity of such a campaign.

thanks for sharing. they are promoting their freedom of expression and choice. this is what defines their country
although a picture that is missing is that of a mixed race couple. even in Netherlands few parts. black and white couple are seen with a dim view.
someone I know had to move out of certain part of the city in Holland because the man was white with an Asian wife and it was seen as a threat to the white pure race and its future

 

[Georg]

someone I know had to move out of certain part of the city in Holland because the man was white with an Asian wife and it was seen as a threat to the white pure race and its future

have to LOL about this... something like this NEVER happen inside the EU... this is just bullshit talking

There is no existing law in any EU country that would allow officel sides to force people to change their home because of ethnic background ....

So the only thing that could happen he rented a flat from a racist house owner. if a private house owner does not extent the rental time for a flat, it is his right because he is the owner... what ever his motivation is is his own thing.
If you rent a flat from a racist you can expect problems if you have a partner with a different cultural or ethic background. Even than there is the possiblity to publish that in the news... such behaivor is a nice present for news channels and they would turn the racist house owner life into living hell were he cant get out of the house, everyone would pointing with the finger at him and call him NAZI...which is pretty rude in Holland because they suffered a lot under NAZI dictatorship.

So I call your story utterly crap....

 

[UKBengali]

have to LOL about this... something like this NEVER happen inside the EU... this is just bullshit talking

There is no existing law in any EU country that would allow officel sides to force people to change their home because of ethnic background ....

So the only thing that could happen he rented a flat from a racist house owner. if a private house owner does not extent the rental time for a flat, it is his right because he is the owner... what ever his motivation is is his own thing.
If you rent a flat from a racist you can expect problems if you have a partner with a different cultural or ethic background. Even than there is the possiblity to publish that in the news... such behaivor is a nice present for news channels and they would turn the racist house owner life into living hell were he cant get out of the house, everyone would pointing with the finger at him and call him NAZI...which is pretty rude in Holland because they suffered a lot under NAZI dictatorship.

So I call your story utterly crap....

Actually these things have been known to happen in the UK.
There are some people that can be pretty racist and will show it
but it is quite rare nowadays.

 

[Georg]

Actually these things have been known to happen in the UK.
There are some people that can be pretty racist and will show it
but it is quite rare nowadays.

But NEVER from a officel side.... you will find idiot house owner all around the world ... but that is private motivation not government rulled punishment

 

[UKBengali]

But NEVER from a officel side.... you will find idiot house owner all around the world ... but that is private motivation not government rulled punishment

True but the point that was made was about private individuals and not about state discrimination.