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In Pakistan now Fashion&Drama are having things not respectable in Islam

Why does every mulli counters an argument by shouting liberal fascist?

I have yet to see a drama where which is not suitable to watch with a family. And if there are any dramas like that then there should be advisories at the beginning of the show. Like pg 13, 18+ etc.
First of all where has any Pakistani liberal ever preached nudity? Last time I checked all actresses and models were wearing clothes. Please don't add words like vulgarity and nudity to make your argument more dramatic.

Right- so i am a mulli now- great- i hope for the sake of argument that has given you some moral high ground for your very own satisfaction- isn't it?-
Now lets move on to the topic shall we?-

Nudity is not bare all the clothes- it has never been this way-
classifying a drama on pg ratings will kill the whole family drama concept isn't it?-
I hope you have watched some episodes of "neeli chatri" for a start- or whats been shown in "Kafir"- and many more-

I hope you understand that wearing clothes does not add to nudity- nor i hv implied that nudity or vulgarity means actresses without clothes on Pakistani serials- thats the problem of comprehension- when we mulli say we want some decency in our dramas we do not mean they should make the actresses wear burqa or hijab-the far end is as much dangerous as much as the rear end- the drams should focus on current wrongs in our society- not adopt it as a trend-
 
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Again what is materialistic western culture?

Is modern Western culture a health hazard?-Oxford International Journal of Epidemiology

And what is Pakistani culture? Because what I see in Pakistan is intolerance, religious extremism, lack of education and lot of other sad things. Is this Pakistani culture? Is it Pakistani culture to bomb a whole fckin school?

And where did i say that is Pakistani culture? I swear that if you find even a single mention in any of my posts on this thread where i have stated that "religious intolerance, lack of education and extremism is Pakistani culture" and i will leave this forum for good.

In fact, i already addressed those issues in my previous posts that regarding this matter we must improve on: http://www.defence.pk/forums/member...ings-not-respectable-islam-2.html#post2589299

you just chose to ignore that part of my previous post.


What nudity? Send me a link to a fashion show
Go to the thread "Pakistani fashion", there are plenty of videos and images posted by the members of this very forum.

or drama that showed nudity?
I never said anything about nudity in Pakistani drama, quote any of my previous posts where i said that.

Seeing is believing you know.
indeed it is.


Only a person from the 1800s can call a clothed fashion show nudity or vulgar.
i will kindly advise you that Please refrain from personal attacks or else i won't hold back in the future if you continue to abuse me with you personal rants.


You know the Islamic Republic of Pakistan
There you go, you answered all of your inquiries.

Maybe you and your fellow liberal fascists should strive to change the name of the country to "Liberal Fascist, Nude, Materialistic, Hip Hop, Republic of Pakistan".


tops searches for all types of ****. There is a lack of sex in Pakistan, its a sex starved country. Thats why you have people having sex with corpses in Pakistan, thats why you have massive rape problems.
That is a morally corrupt society, of course you can't blame the west for that? No, the problem lies within rather than without, but does that justify importing materialistic nude culture? No.
 
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We call ourselves Muslims but see how we treat other human beings by killing them on the streets of Karachi, by throwing acid in the face of women and by cheating and lying in everyday life...and by playing with people's livelihood.

I'd rather live in a society where all this so called 'Haram' and 'Nanga' stuff is there, as long as human rights are upheld.


Open up your mind, because that is one freakin thing that i can't do for you!

For the sake of argument- tell me how it relates to the current topic-
are you using examples of oranges to promote mangoes?-
 
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Nudity is not bare all the clothes- it has never been this way-
classifying a drama on pg ratings will kill the whole family drama concept isn't it?-
I hope you have watched some episodes of "neeli chatri" for a start- or whats been shown in "Kafir"- and many more-

I hope you understand that wearing clothes does not add to nudity- nor i hv implied that nudity or vulgarity means actresses without clothes on Pakistani serials- thats the problem of comprehension- when we mulli say we want some decency in our dramas we do not mean they should make the actresses wear burqa or hijab-the far end is as much dangerous as much as the rear end- the drams should focus on current wrongs in our society- not adopt is at a trend-

nu·di·ty/ˈn(y)o͞odətē/
Noun:
The state or fact of being naked: "scenes of full-frontal nudity".

Nudity does not mean wearing a tshirt or jeans. Or else Hollywood is hardcore porno. From what I know family dramas have never been vulgar. Now if hugging or a kiss on the cheek means vulgarity then I really can`t do anything about that. As for neeli chatri, kafir etc. Those are only a couple of dramas, the drama industry as a whole is not even close to being vulgar. Like I said before if you don`t like it don`t watch it. You people are like those college students that cry about high tuition fees but choose to buy thousand dollar jackets. It doesn`t make sense. I don`t like gays but that doesn`t mean I want homosexuality banned or I`m going to start ranting about gays.

These acts of ``vulgarity and nudity`` are not hurting you the last time I checked. It all comes down to if your watching these shows for entertainment or for sexual pleasure.

And lets cut the crap about mullis we all know what they want.
 
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nu·di·ty/ˈn(y)o͞odətē/
Noun:
The state or fact of being naked: "scenes of full-frontal nudity".

Nudity does not mean wearing a tshirt or jeans. Or else Hollywood is hardcore porno.

See- telling me the definition of nudity- and you confused your self with definition of porno- Weird-

Definition for porno:
Web definitions:
pornography: creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire.

nudity does mean exposing the body wearing skimpy and pimpy dresses-no way near hardcore porno-

From what I know family dramas have never been vulgar. Now if hugging or a kiss on the cheek means vulgarity then I really can`t do anything about that. As for neeli chatri, kafir etc.

Those are only a couple of dramas, the drama industry as a whole is not even close to being vulgar. Like I said before if you don`t like it don`t watch it.

with millions of people living in Pakistan- few radical mullah ir people throwing acis- should not bother you- thats according to your logic- if ignoring it is the solution- then make your life a heaven- use the ignore button-

You people are like those college students that cry about high tuition fees but choose to buy thousand dollar jackets. It doesn`t make sense. I don`t like gays but that doesn`t mean I want homosexuality banned or I`m going to start ranting about gays.

You people are like a crying baby- if parents doesn't allow you to play excess football- you go on giving examples of people playing 5 day test match-

Asking me not to watch dramas if i dont like them- is like me asking you to not bother when a mulla does some thing wrong- is that the solution-

These acts of ``vulgarity and nudity`` are not hurting you the last time I checked. It all comes down to if your watching these shows for entertainment or for sexual pleasure.

the issue is dramas- which we are suppose to watch with families- if the talk is about movies- then yes we have a choice for entertainment or sexual pleasure-


And lets cut the crap about mullis we all know what they want.
Yup- but yet- that doesn't stop you from calling me a mulli-
 
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First mullas need education. They always remAins 20 years back. They issues fatwas on making Videos, after 10 years they enjoys Same gadget. They lives on people chandas. They hate west, but prefers West perfumes and gadget. Good thing is They always fight each other in The Name of firqas. Their unity is dangerous and i am sure it will Not happen
 
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First mullas need education. They always remAins 20 years back. They issues fatwas on making Videos, after 10 years they enjoys Same gadget. They lives on people chandas. They hate west, but prefers West perfumes and gadget. Good thing is They always fight each other in The Name of firqas. Their unity is dangerous and i am sure it will Not happen

Looks like one of the liberal fascists opened another account just to troll.
 
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First mullas need education. They always remAins 20 years back. They issues fatwas on making Videos, after 10 years they enjoys Same gadget. They lives on people chandas. They hate west, but prefers West perfumes and gadget. Good thing is They always fight each other in The Name of firqas. Their unity is dangerous and i am sure it will Not happen

i always wonder- why male mostly in fashion industry- turn behave act feminists themselves-
is that because of the interference where it shouldn't be?-
 
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i always wonder- why male mostly in fashion industry- turn behave act feminists themselves-
is that because of the interference where it shouldn't be?-
First of all i am Not from fashion industry, May be your perception.
Mullas only need paradase from Allah.That,s why They will never go for science technology but They will only pass time for Allah to get paradise. Hence They are useless for The progress of country.
 
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I think we should stop copying others and make things more considerable. Wedding and love there is only two topics ,there is nothing else on TV. We should have some constructive and creative Dramas. While are fashions shows is something a normal good Muslim cannot either bare to see or do. We should have ones with good clothes.
What are your Ideas?

I think we have creative dramas . I don't know which channels you watch but there are plenty of dramas which address social issues of our society
 
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I recently watched this drama on partition. Its good like meri zaat zara beinishaan and humsafar...nice original story without too much glamour in it..no one can beat the originality and simplicity of pakistani dramas

 
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