In India Muslim man arrested for marrying Hindu girl

[xeuss]

Could we say that the law that does not allow Muslims to not marry Hindus without conversion is created to harass Hindus.

Your use of double or triple negatives leaves me confused. Perhaps you can rephrase.

 

[Vikram1]

Some dude was giving me a lecture on this forum about identity and what not bullshit to cover for the law.

Here's the reality of your dumb state and its dumb law.

Dumb state..

Atleast our judiciary and government are not forcing minor girls to marry any tharki duddha

Christian woman shot dead for rejecting marriage proposal in Pakistan: Police

Rawalpindi [Pakistan], December 6 (ANI): A Christian woman was shot dead in Rawalpindi allegedly by a Muslim man whose marriage proposal was rejected by her parents recently, Radio Pakistan reported on Sunday, citing police.

www.aninews.in

 

[KhanBaba2]

Your use of double or triple negatives leaves me confused. Perhaps you can rephrase.

Suppose there is a Hindu girl. She falls in love with a Muslim boy. She is in love with the boy. Not Islam. But she cannot marry without leaving her religion. Try to put yourself in her shoes. How would you feel if you had to leave your religion and join one that you had no interest in.

 

[Drizzt]

Article 25(1) of the Constitution says “all persons,” not just Indian citizens, are equally entitled to the freedom of conscience and the right to profess, practise and propagate religion freely.

India's constitution ensures right to conversion into any religion, these recent laws are just being used to create a fear, to stop you from propagating your religion. Don't succumb to fear be bold.

Upper caste Hindu's fear of conversion runs very deep, their real fear is that if the caste difference between lower castes and upper castes becomes a religious difference. The lower castes will become more assertive and start asking for more share in India's resources. This will lead to a revolution.

Everything else is just a diversion. Why was Babri Masjid martyred ? Because of Mandal commission, lots of differences had emerged between native folk people and upper castes. Google for "Mandal vs Kamandal"

This old man is currently among the top religious leaders of upper castes/Hindus, watch from 3 mintues 10 seconds

In 'Bunch of Thoughts' published in 1966, MS Golwalkar talks about 3 internal threats- Muslims, Christians & Communists. All 3 have the potential to makes the lower castes more assertive and which will lead to a revolution.

Unless you understand the identity of your adversary and his psychology, you will never be able to effectively deliver a counter.

 

[xeuss]

Suppose there is a Hindu girl. She falls in love with a Muslim boy. She is in love with the boy. Not Islam. But she cannot marry without leaving her religion. Try to put yourself in her shoes. How would you feel if you had to leave your religion and join one that you had no interest in.

People sacrifice different things in/for marriage...sometimes it is a career, sometimes it is their city/state, sometimes it is their lifestyle. Religion is just another of those elements.

In India, the Hindu Marriage Act or the Muslim Nikaah does not recognize a marriage between two people of different religions. The marriage cannot be valid or conducted between people of two different religions unless they go via the Special Marriage Act route.

So if the Hindu girl does not want to convert, then she can either get married via the Hindu Marriage Act (Muslim boy would have to convert in this case to Hinduism) or the Special Marriage Act.

The point here is not who has to convert and who has not to convert, and why one and not the other. That is a issue to be discussed by the two parties, just like any of the other issues that they will discuss like careers, children etc etc. The point here is that this law will almost exclusively be used to target Muslims, and all the early signs have not dispelled this notion.

 

[Lincoln]

Dumb state..

Atleast our judiciary and government are not forcing minor girls to marry any tharki duddha

Christian woman shot dead for rejecting marriage proposal in Pakistan: Police

Rawalpindi [Pakistan], December 6 (ANI): A Christian woman was shot dead in Rawalpindi allegedly by a Muslim man whose marriage proposal was rejected by her parents recently, Radio Pakistan reported on Sunday, citing police.

www.aninews.in

What aboutism doesn't solve your dumb laws.

 

[colonel rajesh]

I would have agrEed with you ten years ago, but brahminism is now an existential threat and must be eradicated for the benefit of dalits, Muslims, Sikhs and even non-brahiminist Hindus. It is a cult invented by slave drivers and still promotes and propagates modern day slavery. It will be stopped at its gangetic source. Then south Asia will see peace and prosperity for ALL.

No. It is to degrade and destroy the cult of hindutva. Once that is achieved, we will have our "Ashoka moment". First, trash needs eradicating and only then can freedom prosper.

brahminism is dead , it is alive in minds of pakistanis like you .

 

[Hamza913]

No I can ...but then why have inheritance, tax and other laws that only favour Muslims. Surely an individual will take all those factors into account when deciding to convert.

Inheritance laws are a big deal to farmers.

I believe discussing religion is against forum policies

It's a rule that almost never gets enforced, dw until an administrator comes along and tells you off.

It's not as if jizya is still a thing in India or Pakistan, and even when it was there were other taxes (e.g kharaj) that needed paying too, and as a Muslim you'd have zakat slapped on to replaced jizya once you converted. Not sure what you mean by inheritance law either.

Such explanations are inherently forced, especially when most Muslims within the sub-continent come from the frontier areas (the Bengal and the Indus Valley) rather than the centre of power (Delhi/Agra and its surrounding areas).

 

[undercover JIX]

 

[Maira La]

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Mr. Golwalkar wanted to preserve the purity of the greatest race on Earth.

The purity is truly a sight to behold!

 

[Markandeya]

Muslims should first allow conversion of their folks to Hinduism before preaching here.

Its so funny and so rich to see such patronizing comments coming from Muslims here .

This is the very reason we Hindus want to remove the word secularism ( introduced in 1976) from our Constitution and ensure no one way change.

 

[Vikram1]

Mr. Golwalkar wanted to preserve the purity of the greatest race on Earth.

The purity is truly a sight to behold!

If I will post some pics from Bangladeshi momins, you will not find any place to hide.

 

[KhanBaba2]

Religion is just another of those elements.

I would say that that is treating the faith of a person very casually. I will disagree with you on that.

In India, the Hindu Marriage Act or the Muslim Nikaah does not recognize a marriage between two people of different religions. The marriage cannot be valid or conducted between people of two different religions unless they go via the Special Marriage Act route.
So if the Hindu girl does not want to convert, then she can either get married via the Hindu Marriage Act (Muslim boy would have to convert in this case to Hinduism) or the Special Marriage Act.

The special marriage act was created for marriage from different faiths.

The point here is that this law will almost exclusively be used to target Muslims, and all the early signs have not dispelled this notion.

I have no doubt that this is true. But now that the law is there, if anyone finds a Muslim being forced to convert for marriage, the law applies there too and people can and will be arrested.

Personally I would prefer inter faith marriages to be under the special marriage act without conversion.

 

[xeuss]

I would say that that is treating the faith of a person very casually. I will disagree with you on that.

My personal view is that those who are okay with inter-faith marriage, are not too religious anyway, and don't find religion to be a major obstacle in marriage.

 

[jamahir]

This old man is currently among the top religious leaders of upper castes/Hindus, watch from 3 mintues 10 seconds

As in your posted vid I always find this "Sadhguru" fellow to be an irritating pseudo-intellectual type.

Found this short vid about him being schooled by Javed Akhtar.

In 'Bunch of Thoughts' published in 1966, MS Golwalkar talks about 3 internal threats- Muslims, Christians & Communists.

Ah yes, the Chrislamocommies... I am two of those but not a threat to India but a solution.

The Hindutvadis are the main internal threat to India.

All 3 have the potential to makes the lower castes more assertive and which will lead to a revolution.

Agreed.