In favor of Hindutva; by a Pakistani muslim

[Gadkari]

That's another debate. But by and large the Americans have accepted that their Constitution is a living document which must be interpreted depending on contemporary society.

Too bad it took them this long.

Indians had that since 1950.

I don't know if you are mixing religious beliefs with "hindutva" but no scripture in Sanatan Dharma / Hinduism even mentions Islam/ Christianity or any other religion.. Hindutva as a political narrative is completely different and many Hindus don't necessarily subscribe to that.
This narrative being sold is in line with "identification" of Hindus in other religions.
Sanatan Dharma is not a Organised religion, religious practices differ every 50 km, we never had a head/headquarters as a religion.

You are barking up the wrong tree.

He comes from a belief system that is fundamentally based on Negation of others practices, values and beliefs.

So he would naturally assume the same for every other religion he encounters.

Its like talking in sign language with a blind man. Its a total waste of time.

 

[Sharma Ji]

@xeuss

bhai, so let's see this "anti muslim agenda" manifesto of the Hindutvadis finally, can we ?

I'm obviously handicapped and don't dare risk showing you certain other 'manifestos'

but go ahead, hit us with why we're Nazis.

 

[HalfMoon]

It is the duty of Hindu members here to inform others clearly, what is the vision of hindutva, and specifically what will be neighbours place in it.
There is a lot of speculation going on around that point. If you will not defined it here, it will be remained a confused and horrifying topic for many.
You guys can use this thread for defining hindutva for students like me here.

The goal of Hindutva is

1) Malign and hijack Hinduism

2) Weaken India internally - Divide people using every political tool available be it Religion, Caste, Language etc

3) Weaken India externally - Weaken Economy, Defense and Self sufficiency. Make enemies with neighbors and powers that matter

4) Give keys of India to the West so that India can be killed by the West as and when they decide India's turn has arrived i.e. when India is on the verge of becoming strong and could pose a threat to the West like China is today

 

[Gadkari]

It is the duty of Hindu members here to inform others clearly, what is the vision of hindutva, and specifically what will be neighbours place in it.
There is a lot of speculation going on around that point. If you will not defined it here, it will be remained a confused and horrifying topic for many.
You guys can use this thread for defining hindutva for students like me here.

Hindutva means nothing for our neighbors.

Its is for our internal consumption and practice. Hinduism is inherently an INTERNAL practice and faith. Unlike abrahamic religions which is fundamentally External in nature.

THIS is why you are consistently unable to understand either Hinduism or Hindutva. Because you are seeking for a mirror image and what you see is something totally different which you cannot comprehend.

Those that understand it, refuse to admit that they get it.

The goal of Hindutva is

1) Malign and hijack Hinduism

2) Weaken India internally - Divide people using every political tool available be it Religion, Caste, Language etc

3) Weaken India externally - Weaken Economy, Defense and Self sufficiency. Make enemies with neighbors and powers that matter

4) Give keys of India to the West so that India can be killed by the West as and when they decide India's turn has arrived i.e. when India is on the verge of becoming strong and could pose a threat to the West like China is today

Shouldn't a HINDU be explaining it ?

You should stick to explaining political islam.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Having "carefully studied Hindutva", surely you can so much as to give us a glimpse into your deep knowledge on the subject ?

 

[Gadkari]

@xeuss

bhai, so let's see this "anti muslim agenda" manifesto of the Hindutvadis finally, can we ?

I'm obviously handicapped and don't dare risk showing you certain other 'manifestos'

but go ahead, hit us with why we're Nazis.

Apparently Hindus live our lives obsessing about muslims

 

[Sharma Ji]

@xeuss

 

[HalfMoon]

Shouldn't a HINDU be explaining it ?

You should stick to explaining political islam.

1) Hindutva leadership comprises of sellouts who dance to the tunes of the foreign powers. They will never reveal the truth.

2) Hindutva foot soldiers are low IQ idiots. They will never discover, recognize and understand the real game being played.

Hence only an informed outsider like me can correctly describe the truth.

 

[Jackdaws]

Too bad it took them this long.

Indians had that since 1950.



You are barking up the wrong tree.

He comes from a belief system that is fundamentally based on Negation of others practices, values and beliefs.

So he would naturally assume the same for every other religion he encounters.

Its like talking in sign language with a blind man. Its a total waste of time.

Not really. India has already amended its constitution over a 100 times since 1950. The USA since 1770s has less than 30.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Hindutva means nothing for our neighbors.

Its is for our internal consumption and practice. Hinduism is inherently an INTERNAL practice and faith. Unlike abrahamic religions which is fundamentally External in nature.

THIS is why you are consistently unable to understand either Hinduism or Hindutva. Because you are seeking for a mirror image and what you see is something totally different which you cannot comprehend.

Those that understand it, refuse to admit that they get it.



Shouldn't a HINDU be explaining it ?

You should stick to explaining political islam.

So when someone says hindutva law or Hindu Rashtra, what does it actually mean.

 

[Gadkari]

1) Hindutva leadership comprises of sellouts who dance to the tunes of the foreign powers. They will never reveal the truth.

2) Hindutva foot soldiers are low IQ idiots. They will never discover, recognize and understand the real game being played.

Hence only an informed outsider like me can correctly describe the truth.

Yes, I have notice that certain religion do have the concept of Mullas who claim to correctly interpret the truth.

Lage Raho.

So when someone says hindutva law or Hindu Rashtra, what does it actually mean.

It means a Political system of protection of Hindu values, Hindu practices, Hindu scriptures, Hindu customs and over all Hindu civilization.

 

[xeuss]

I don't know if you are mixing religious beliefs with "hindutva" but no scripture in Sanatan Dharma / Hinduism even mentions Islam/ Christianity or any other religion.. Hindutva as a political narrative is completely different and many Hindus don't necessarily subscribe to that.
This narrative being sold is in line with "identification" of Hindus in other religions.
Sanatan Dharma is not a Organised religion, religious practices differ every 50 km, we never had a head/headquarters as a religion.

I was not talking about the religion, but Hindutva. Please read the OP. The poster clearly mentioned Hindutva.

 

[Gadkari]

Not really. India has already amended its constitution over a 100 times since 1950. The USA since 1770s has less than 30.

India also has the largest constitution in the world to cater to its incredible diversity.

Though the US has a better system of stick to Fundamentals and not pandering to the "minority" like the Indian constitution.

 

[HalfMoon]

Yes, I have notice that certain religion do have the concept of Mullas who claim to correctly interpret the truth.

Lage Raho.

We are discussing India here. So your post is OT.

The fact is even the well informed @Gadkari cannot dispute what I said as deep down in your heart you know I was correct.

 

[Gadkari]

I was not talking about the religion, but Hindutva. Please read the OP. The poster clearly mentioned Hindutva.

The SC said that Hinduism and Hindutva is the same.

We are discussing India here. So your post is OT.

The fact is even the well informed @Gadkari cannot dispute what I said as deep down in your heart you know I was correct.

You were discussing "Hindutva", not India.

Before claiming to know "deep down in my heart", why don't you tell us who this 'Hindutva leadership" is ?