In a First, Russia Uses an Iran Base for Its Syria Campaign

[Sky_123]

@Levina there is more to it. Will pen it logically. Just spent 20 mins typing on s6 and it came garbled.

You think. But in the picture Pakistan KSA is in trouble. My perspective

How Pakistan came in the picture. FYI, Pakistan officially recognize Asad regime and oppose any external effort to change regime in Syria.

 

[Śakra]

Forget about Iran and it's Mullahs. Is that really you in the PIC?

If it is or isn't doesn't matter. Stop sexually harassing people, creep.

 

[Project 4202]

I am telling historical fact: USSR sent Tu-22 bombers to Afghanistan after realizing that the war is lost.

The only fact here is that Tu-22M were used in Afghanistan, the rest is your usual gibberish

And Afghanistan at least had huge mountains. in Syria WW2 style carpet bombers are totally useless.

exactly and Syria does not, which makes your comparison even more retarded

 

[Madali]

is iran run by children? It's like they want to get sanctioned again.

If we have China and Russia on our side, sanctions will have very less effect. Our problem with the sanction regime was that Russia and China would not have our back. If they do, no global action can be taken. Sanctions would remain unilateral which wouldn't have as much of an effect.

 

[Śakra]

If we have China and Russia on our side, sanctions will have very less effect.

If the sanctions come back up, neither China nor Russia will back you. US sanctions aren't just against a country, they are applied to any company that trades with the sanctioned country. China and Russia's companies will not be willing to give up billions USD for Iran.

 

[500]

The only fact here is that Tu-22M were used in Afghanistan, the rest is your usual gibberish

No they were used after it became clear that the war is lost. The more desperate was situation the more they bombed. Massive use of Tu-22 bombers started in summer 1986 and extremely crazy bombings in October 1988 (4 month before the end).

 

[Madali]

If the sanctions come back up, neither China nor Russia will back you. US sanctions aren't just against a country, they are applied to any company that trades with the sanctioned country. China and Russia's companies will not be willing to give up billions USD for Iran.

First of all, sanctions aren't completely gone now. It has been somewhat eased but many of the foundations still exist.

The main impacts in sanctions are arms, financial, and energy. In these, it makes it harder for USA to take actions against Russian or Chinese companies. For example, Russian companies aren't selling arms to Americans. So, there won't be any Russian companies affected if USA wants to retaliate against a Russian arms company.

Which, by the way, shows how the policy works, because arm sales to Iran is still supposedly sanctioned but Russia has started selling to Iran. At the same time, travel bans on Iranians like Ghassem Soleimani is not taken seriously by Russia, so how would USA counter that?

 

[kaykay]

Good.....

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Massive use of Tu-22 bombers

Are you in a convoluted way suggesting that Tu-22 is a aerial white flag of surrender? In other words it was only designed to be thrown in at cusp of defeat?

Seems to me you have reduced complex matter to kindergarten level and in the course lost any meaning.

Ps. As our Vodkha swigging member here pointed out- the fact that Syria is flat compared to Afghanistan is all the more reason to use carpet bombing.

 

[500]

Are you in a convoluted way suggesting that Tu-22 is a aerial white flag of surrender? In other words it was only designed to be thrown in at cusp of defeat?

Seems to me you have reduced complex matter to kindergarten level and in the course lost any meaning.

Ps. As our Vodkha swigging member here pointed out- the fact that Syria is flat compared to Afghanistan is all the more reason to use carpet bombing.

I am just posting facts which u did not know. Ur personal attacks against me show kindergarten level.I can add that Tu-22 record in Afghanistan was very poor. All that crazy carpet bombings made very little damage to mujaheds.

Ps. As our Vodkha swigging member here pointed out- the fact that Syria is flat compared to Afghanistan is all the more reason to use carpet bombing.

Its the opposite. In Syria the overwhelming majority of targets are small and urban.

 

[mike2000 is back]

If it is or isn't doesn't matter. Stop sexually harassing people, creep.

How have I SEXUALLY harassed you mi lady?? I simply asked a legitimate question.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I am just posting facts which u did not know. Ur personal attacks against me show kindergarten level.I can add that Tu-22 record in Afghanistan was very poor. All that crazy carpet bombings made very little damage to mujaheds.

No idea how old you are but I know lot, lot about the Afghan Jihad and probably more than you. I had particular interest in that war as I hail not too far from the Afghan border.

Its the opposite. In Syria the overwhelming majority of targets are small and urban.

You expose your utter lack what Afghanistan is all about. The targets in Syria are far larger and easier to identify then in Afghanistan. In the latter from the air there is nothing but mountains and small bands of Mujahids easily hiiden in the broken contours of the landscape. In Syria it is relatively flat and carpet bombing would by comparison be easier. When dealing with Israeli's my normal reflex is to expect robust intelligence but alas this time seems to be a exception ....

Every village has a .... I guess even in Israel ....

Ps. Just to clarify I am not taking any sides in this matter.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Stepping up the war on the terrorists roaming around in Syria. Now these beasts can carry their full combat load. The Iranian Parliament speaker has said that this is only a temporary base. Its reported the Russians have stationed Su-34s there as well.

 

[500]

No idea how old you are but I know lot, lot about the Afghan Jihad and probably more than you. I had particular interest in that war as I hail not too far from the Afghan border.

You did not know that most massive use of Tu-22 bombers was in last days of war.

You expose your utter lack what Afghanistan is all about. The targets in Syria are far larger and easier to identify then in Afghanistan. In the latter from the air there is nothing but mountains and small bands of Mujahids easily hiiden in the broken contours of the landscape. In Syria it is relatively flat and carpet bombing would by comparison be easier. When dealing with Israeli's my normal reflex is to expect robust intelligence but alas this time seems to be a exception ....

Every village has a .... I guess even in Israel ....

Ps. Just to clarify I am not taking any sides in this matter.

Thats the point. In broken landscape u need more bombs to hits a target.

Now what they suppose to attack in Syria with Tu-22 bombers? - Mobile targets? - Tu-22 is totally useless in it. Urban warfare? - When Tu-22 drops full load it has dispersion of over 1 km. Means it will hit friendly troops. For same reason its totally useless in any kind of CAS. So what can they do? - Destroy rebel held towns and villages far from the frontline with Tu-22? Well lets see.

 

[AmirPatriot]

500 logic: In WW2, Nazi Germany was the first country to use jet fighters in combat. But then they lost very soon after, that must mean any country that uses jet fighters in war is on its last legs.