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Imran Khan says Pakistan was 'humiliated' over Osama bin Laden, and his killing was 'cold-blooded murder'

By Peter Oborne in Islamabad 8:00AM BST 08 May 2011
Sitting on the veranda of his magnificent hill-top home high above the Pakistan capital of Islamabad, Imran Khan told me of the "humiliation" his country now feels that Osama bin Laden was found hiding in a Pakistan army garrison town.
He said that with bin Laden dead it was time for Britain and the United States to quit Afghanistan – and called for an instant halt to the drone attacks on militants living in the tribal regions of Pakistan.
And, in a highly inflammatory allegation, the former Pakistan cricket captain accused American forces of committing "cold-blooded murder" when they shot dead the unarmed bin Laden in front of his wife and children.
Mr Khan said that the United States had abandoned civilised values and the rule of law, behaved "like cowboys", and as a result was helping the dead al-Qaeda chief to become a "martyr". And he spoke of "seething anger" in Pakistan as a result of the episode.
In a wide ranging interview, Mr Khan told me of his ambition to become prime minister of Pakistan after the coming national elections, expressed his disgust at what he called the "corruption" of the Pakistan political class and what he called "their complete subservience to the United States".

Mr Khan said the news that bin Laden was dead was brought to him while he was campaigning in Southern Pakistan for his Pakistan Tehreekay Insaaf party (which translates as Movement for Justice) in Sind province.
He said that his immediate reaction was "the horror of him being found in Pakistan". But this national embarrassment was turned into humiliation by the fact that the world's most wanted man was discovered not in remote tribal areas outside state control but in an ordinary city so close to the capital in Islamabad.
But the "most painful thing", said Mr Khan, was "that it was not the Pakistanis who got him, the Americans did". Criticising the actions of the Pakistan government, he said: "Our prime minister 46 hours later congratulates the nation and says that we provided the intelligence. If we knew where he was why did we not take him out? Why did we have to rely on the Americans?"
Mr Khan added that the national humiliation was complete "because it is perceived abroad that the government was playing a double game, that they were hiding him".
So I asked him if he believed that the Pakistan army really was hosting bin Laden in his safe house in Abottabad. Imran said he found this very hard to believe. He pointed out that al-Qaeda "were killing Pakistani generals, have attacked the General HQ, the ISI headquarters and the Pakistan army has lost two or three times more soldiers than the all the Nato soldiers put together who have been fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan."
Bearing this slaughter in mind, he said, "How come they would be protecting the mastermind of the attacks?"
But the Movement for Justice leader does not hold the Pakistan army – which has long been the proudest symbol of the country's national integrity - free from guilt. He compared the pitifully small sums of money spent on education in Pakistan to the lavish share of the national budget enjoyed by the military. "If we are spending so much money on the army what is this that the army can't even protect our sovereignty. Why should someone from outside do that?
"I can tell you that in Pakistan I have never seen such anger. Don't think that if there are no street demonstrations that there is not seething anger. The anger is directed at the Pakistan government. It is also now directed at the Pakistan military."
But his strongest criticism was reserved for the United States. "Why did they not just capture Osama Bin Laden and put him on trial? Now the story has emerged that they shot dead an unarmed man in front of his wife and children in cold-blooded murder. The United States talks about the rule of law and human rights. Civilised nations follow the due process of law.
"Why would a civilised nation behave like cowboys? If you did not want to make him a martyr, put him on trial like Saddam Hussein.
"In the end there were no repercussions happened. Saddam is not a hero or a martyr. Had they shot him dead Saddam would have become a cult figure."
Mr Khan speculated that "if they had put Osama on trial he would probably have admitted it and then you would have whatever punishment given like a civilised nation. That would have given the Americans the moral high ground."
He also drew a comparison with the Nazi war criminals put on trial at Nuremburg. He said that a fair trial "would have made Osama Bin Laden less of a cult".
Now, he says, it is time for the United States to quit Afghanistan: "I conclude by saying that sadly that war is for a tiny minority and the Americans are losing this war in the sense that the Americans are losing the hearts and minds of the people. This war is breeding anti-Americanism.
"They should claim victory. They should say: 'OK we've done our job and we will leave Pakistan and Afghanistan.'"
Imran Khan – the only leading Pakistan politician who feels confident to travel freely in the unruly and dangerous tribal areas – said: "The tribal areas are the most unique place in the world. They have never been conquered in history. Every village is autonomous.
"It has its own parliament and its own jury system. It never recognized central authority. The tribes only get together when the foreigner comes. The British understood this."
Without the common western enemy, he said, the Pashtoun tribes would deal with the menace of al-Qaeda, adding that tribal leaders had already handed over al-Qaeda operatives to the authorities.
Mr Khan's immediate objective is to lead the battle against the use by the United States of unmanned drone missiles. In recent weeks he has enjoyed a surge in national popularity by putting himself at the head of a sit-in movement designed to block the movement of Nato supplies from the port of Karachi in southern Pakistan to the theatre of war in Afghanistan.
He told me that – in the wake of a deadly attack which killed 10 people in the northern Waziristan on Friday – he will be meeting his advisers to plan the next stage of this campaign, which could turn into a potential menace for the US war effort and cause deep embarrassment to the Zardari administration.
In the longer term Imran Khan is looking forward to the next set of Pakistan elections, which must be held by 2013 at the latest. He said that he would fight the campaign with a manifesto to end the use of drones, target tax-evaders, end corruption and bring Pakistan's army and intelligence agencies back under control.
To conclude he quoted Winston Churchill: "War is too important a matter to be left to the generals."

Imran Khan says Pakistan was 'humiliated' over Osama bin Laden, and his killing was 'cold-blooded murder' - Telegraph
 
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I'm so sick of this hypocrite Imran Khan

"Why did they not just capture Osama Bin Laden and put him on trial? Now the story has emerged that they shot dead an unarmed man in front of his wife and children in cold-blooded murder. The United States talks about the rule of law and human rights. Civilised nations follow the due process of law.
"Why would a civilised nation behave like cowboys? If you did not want to make him a martyr, put him on trial like Saddam Hussein.


Just So your hypocrite behind understands this --- A dead Osama serves the cause of peace - a live Osama in US custody invtes his Islamist minions to undertake more suicide operations and hostage taking -- and there is no need to give Osama a stage to dessiminate his Islamist wahabi takfiri ideology, after all not every country wants to be controlled by Islamist Wahabi takfiris, right? And come one, the first person to be made an example would be Imran with his Gigolo ways practiced in London clubs and of course as a man who has divorced the mother of his children, what a fine example he makes as a role model, much like OBL with his Xth wife -- What ever century these people live in, it's not this on
 
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AQ says the same about 9/11 attacks...

Do you want the endless cycle of violence to continue?

Personally, of course I want to see the violence and suffering to end for all sides.

However, international geopolitics does not play by the same rules as you and I. As is true with any conflict, this clash will be won by the side willing to put in more sustained effort, material, financial and other resources and dogged determination than their opponents.

I know what side I would pick, but your choice may be different I realise.
 
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It is simple: the humiliation, and the killing, were both richly deserved.
How many Pakistanis believe that it is always wrong to side with non-Muslims humiliating and killing Muslims, regardless of circumstances? Judging from what I've read and heard of the Pakistani media response, almost everyone.

Is it because Pakistanis see their country as a safe haven for those devoted to slaying and conquering non-Muslims in the name of establishing a new Caliphate?

“# Saudi Jawa Said: May:02:2011 - 14:13 ...Americans are (understandably) celebrating, but the effect on Saudis (and Muslims in general) is curious indeed. Most Saudi and Muslims I’ve talked to seemed kind of shell shocked at the moment. While most of them did not agree with his acts, OBL had become a symbol of the Anti-American Muslim. Its an often used tactic when debating how powerful the US is by saying: “They can’t even find OBL!”. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Che Guivara style postmortem worship cults to arise. Expect to see conspiracy theories breed like rabbits.

# Solomon2 Said: May:02:2011 - 14:31 So for “most Saudis and Muslims” OBL represented a never-dying ambition for domination over all others? A goal they feel is suppressed only by the power of non-Muslim nations? And thus these Muslims feel shocked and depressed by the demise of this symbol of their hope, whose tactics they disagreed with but whose publicly-declared goals they shared?”

“Saudi Jawa Said: May:02:2011 - 15:32 ”
“In a word; yes. A lot of Muslims still harbor the fantasy of the “Mulsim Umma” coming back as a super power...
 
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I'm so sick of this hypocrite Imran Khan




Just So your hypocrite behind understands this --- A dead Osama serves the cause of peace - a live Osama in US custody invtes his Islamist minions to undertake more suicide operations and hostage taking -- and there is no need to give Osama a stage to dessiminate his Islamist wahabi takfiri ideology, after all not every country wants to be controlled by Islamist Wahabi takfiris, right? And come one, the first person to be made an example would be Imran with his Gigolo ways practiced in London clubs and of course as a man who has divorced the mother of his children, what a fine example he makes as a role model, much like OBL with his Xth wife -- What ever century these people live in, it's not this on

I hope you RIP...... SOON !!! :lol:
 
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Personally, of course I want to see the violence and suffering to end for all sides.

However, international geopolitics does not play by the same rules as you and I. As is true with any conflict, this clash will be won by the side willing to put in more sustained effort, material, financial and other resources and dogged determination than their opponents.

I know what side I would pick, but your choice may be different I realise.

If you are a decent human being (which I think you are), you would nt choose either sides... so I am surprised that you think I would choose anything different... if you choose either America or AQ... well lets just say that I do NOT want to stand next to you on the last day...

Unless of course you dont believe in such a thing as divine justice (i m trying to remember, you were asking about Dawkins a while ago)... in that case, I d say do wait a while... all hell is about to break lose... ;)
 
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How many Pakistanis believe that it is always wrong to side with non-Muslims humiliating and killing Muslims, regardless of circumstances? Judging from what I've read and heard of the Pakistani media response, almost everyone.

Is it because Pakistanis see their country as a safe haven for those devoted to slaying and conquering non-Muslims in the name of establishing a new Caliphate?

Saudi Jawa? Who is he? CIA?
 
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It was indeed embarrassing, but it was expected that he was in Pakistan anyway.

Just that people thought it would be in north west pakistan not in a big house.
 
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I'm so sick of this hypocrite Imran Khan




Just So your hypocrite behind understands this --- A dead Osama serves the cause of peace - a live Osama in US custody invtes his Islamist minions to undertake more suicide operations and hostage taking -- and there is no need to give Osama a stage to dessiminate his Islamist wahabi takfiri ideology, after all not every country wants to be controlled by Islamist Wahabi takfiris, right? And come one, the first person to be made an example would be Imran with his Gigolo ways practiced in London clubs and of course as a man who has divorced the mother of his children, what a fine example he makes as a role model, much like OBL with his Xth wife -- What ever century these people live in, it's not this on

this is what uncle sam is feeding you

where are alquaida attacks after osama's death??
 
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If you are a decent human being (which I think you are), you would nt choose either sides... so I am surprised that you think I would choose anything different... if you choose either America or AQ... well lets just say that I do NOT want to stand next to you on the last day...

Unless of course you dont believe in such a thing as divine justice (i m trying to remember, you were asking about Dawkins a while ago)... in that case, I d say do wait a while... all hell is about to break lose... ;)

I am very much a muslim, pretty devout in fact (12 times to Mecca so far. ;) ). However, that does not stop me from reading Dawkins or the Bible or any other book for that matter. My religion keeps the eyes of my mind open.

My side will always be of PEACE, that is what I had in mind.
 
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At your service Sir,

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I am not a big fan of ik but he has said something right this time Pakistan was not humiliated not even the political leadership of Pakistan only Pam army and isi got humiliated in my opinion
 
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