Imran Khan: If India takes one step to improve ties, Pakistan will take two steps

[hussain0216]

Columbus ki naav galat jagah chali gayi thi. He thought he landed in India .

Seeing all the naked, hungry, savages you can forgive give for thinking he had landed in india.

 

[Asian.Century]

 

[Taimoor Khan]

It's not just about the Kashmiris. There's the geographical and political aspects of giving away Kashmir.

I was asking how the lives of 1.3 billion Indians are at risk if control over Kashmir is relinquish?

 

[Corona]

I was asking how the lives of 1.3 billion Indians are at risk if control over Kashmir is relinquish?

Didn't I answer that?
First off, it's geopolitical suicide. How many countries still see Ukraine in the same light after Crimea? The only way separation of Kashmir will be seen as is weakness. Can't afford that can we, not with 2 potential enemies neighboring us.
Then there is the literal consequences of loosing Kashmir. An independent Kashmir will heavily lean towards Pakistan if it doesn't outright join Pakistan. Why would we create another hostile state in our border or increase the existing landmass of our potential enemies?
It would increase the border between Pakistan and China with proximity to us, another no no.

I'm listing the stuff that's coming to my head. More qualified people will probably have better answers.

 

[ThinkLogically]

I was asking how the lives of 1.3 billion Indians are at risk if control over Kashmir is relinquish?

Please hand over your Kashmir for permanent peace in the sub continent. I am sure the life of 220 million is worth more than a piece of real estate. Your delivery mechanisms of nukes are worth nothing.

 

[t_for_talli]

Yeh dekh India ki aukaat.
In India: A Woman Raped Every 20 Minutes
https://news.sky.com/story/india-a-woman-raped-every-20-minutes-10459899

In India a child is sexually assaulted every 15 minutes
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/p...xually-assaulted-every-15-minutes-seven-year/

if you want more slaps im here all night

this shows your level of intellect/ education
comparing a value out of scale with something which is fixed,
when compare it in per capita terms then you will realize where your country stands

India is a billion plus nation when you compare a billion + scale of any metric against a hours/days which is fixed will always give the wrong perception.

But I guessed you missed basic schooling, so let me explain you with easy example

Birth per year for PAk id 16000, for India is 49000, people like you will say that India's population is growing at a faster rate
But anyone with basic education will figure out that Population growth rate of PAk is higher

 

[Sully3]

this shows your level of intellect/ education
comparing a value out of scale with something which is fixed,
when compare it in per capita terms then you will realize where your country stands

India is a billion plus nation when you compare a billion + scale of any metric against a hours/days which is fixed will always give the wrong perception.

But I guessed you missed basic schooling, so let me explain you with easy example

Birth per year for PAk id 16000, for India is 49000, people like you will say that India's population is growing at a faster rate
But anyone with basic education will figure out that Population growth rate of PAk is higher

shut up and go cry to the western media who clearly is naming and shaming India is the rape capital of the world for women and children.


Pakistan is mentioned no where, India is leading all world rape charts. you cant spin this into oh pakistan is worse, the world is slapping you indians in the face for rape not us.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Please hand over your Kashmir for permanent peace in the sub continent. I am sure the life of 220 million is worth more than a piece of real estate. Your delivery mechanisms of nukes are worth nothing.

That's already "Azad" (librated) kashmir. The only issue is Indian occupied kashmir which needs resolution.

With regards to our nukes, they are keeping our other major powers at bay, India means nothing.

Didn't I answer that?
First off, it's geopolitical suicide. How many countries still see Ukraine in the same light after Crimea? The only way separation of Kashmir will be seen as is weakness. Can't afford that can we, not with 2 potential enemies neighboring us.
Then there is the literal consequences of loosing Kashmir. An independent Kashmir will heavily lean towards Pakistan if it doesn't outright join Pakistan. Why would we create another hostile state in our border or increase the existing landmass of our potential enemies?
It would increase the border between Pakistan and China with proximity to us, another no no.

I'm listing the stuff that's coming to my head. More qualified people will probably have better answers.

That territory doesn't belong to you. Not part of your federation. It's a disputed territory by international consensus which you agreed to. You will be fine after relinquishing control over kashmir. This will automatically improve overall security situation in sub continent.

 

[Corona]

That territory doesn't belong to you. Not part of your federation. It's a disputed territory by international consensus which you agreed to. You will be fine after relinquishing control over kashmir. This will automatically improve overall security situation in sub continent.

We claim it in its entirety and we do control a part of it. We will do with our part as we please.


"You will be fine after relinquishing control over kashmir. This will automatically improve overall security situation in sub continent."

Yeah, NO. Pretty sure they said similar stuff during partition. A problem doesn't go away simply because you redraw a few lines on the map or a few people get shuffled around. We've been at each other's throats since independence and simply solving the Kashmir issue won't fix that.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

We claim it in its entirety and we do control a part of it. We will do with our part as we please.


"You will be fine after relinquishing control over kashmir. This will automatically improve overall security situation in sub continent."

Yeah, NO. Pretty sure they said similar stuff during partition. A problem doesn't go away simply because you redraw a few lines on the map or a few people get shuffled around. We've been at each other's throats since independence and simply solving the Kashmir issue won't fix that.

You took kashmir issue to UN we didn't. It's is a disputed territory to which YOU agreed to. These are the facts.

Pretty sure they said similar stuff during partition.

Kashmir is the legacy of Partition not something which just came about.

 

[Ultima Thule]

If India takes one step forward, then Pakistan must take two step backward in order to free Azad Kashmir......problem solved.

We are not illegally Azad Kashmir by brutal force like india did in the past @Jackdaws, Kashmirs tribes called for help because they know DOGRA RAJ were join india sooner or later @Jackdaws

Please hand over your Kashmir for permanent peace in the sub continent. I am sure the life of 220 million is worth more than a piece of real estate. Your delivery mechanisms of nukes are worth nothing.

We are not illegally Azad Kashmir by brutal force like india did in the past @ThinkLogically Kashmirs tribes called for help because they know DOGRA RAJ were join india sooner or later @ThinkLogically

 

[xyxmt]

Well Imran here is the problem, if you take a step forward they get scared and step back....its a typical Indian nature and there is no cure of wussiness as of yet.

 

[Corona]

You took kashmir issue to UN we didn't. It's is a disputed territory to which YOU agreed to. These are the facts.

Pretty sure they said similar stuff during partition.

Kashmir is the legacy of Partition not something which just came about.

So who's arguing with 'the facts' ? I said it is a disputed territory, but our position is we own all of it. Our position on Kashmir against Pakistan is the reason it is disputed.

Kashmir being the legacy of partition is the reason I'm saying solving Kashmir issue won't change anything between India and Pakistan. They said creating separate nations will solve all our problems, and while partition was inevitable and necessary, it wasn't a magic spell to remove all of our problems. If you really wanna repair ties between India and Pakistan, it's gonna take a lot more effort than Kashmir.

 

[Jackdaws]

We are not illegally Azad Kashmir by brutal force like india did in the past @Jackdaws, Kashmirs tribes called for help because they know DOGRA RAJ were join india sooner or later @Jackdaws


We are not illegally Azad Kashmir by brutal force like india did in the past @ThinkLogically Kashmirs tribes called for help because they know DOGRA RAJ were join india sooner or later @ThinkLogically

Kashmiri tribes call for help? Which ones? And did your Govt try any diplomatic avenues with the Maharaja or did it unilaterally invade a free state?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Kashmiri tribes call for help? Which ones? And did your Govt try any diplomatic avenues with the Maharaja or did it unilaterally invade a free state?

And your'e not invade the free state against the will of Kashmiri peoples @Jackdaws google yourself and read the history of independence @Jackdaws and DOGRA RAG is already in indian side so how can we talk with him because he had sympathy toward india @Jackdaws