Ilya Kramnik Russian military expert call Pakistan potential buyer of SU35

[PATHAN786KING]

And yet what ever HAL can assemble is more than enought for PAF .

yes hal tejas

 

[chhota bheem]

yes hal tejas

Update yourself bro HAL assembles many other A/C.

 

[nomi007]

IF ITS TRUE
THAN
SEE THE REASON OF INDIANS

 

[he-man]

Only things were MKI Lacks is Radar and Engine Modified frame of Su-35

No,su-35 has better sensor fusion and it too has a l band radar in slats intended for pakfa.
On jammers,w have no data to see if u are right.

But we are beaten to shreads by the radar in su-35,bars is nothing in comparison as far as power and range go.

TOT of Mig-35

 

[Basel]

No,su-35 has better sensor fusion and it too has a l band radar in slats intended for pakfa.
On jammers,w have no data to see if u are right.

But we are beaten to shreads by the radar in su-35,bars is nothing in comparison as far as power and range go.

Indians did similar things when members here posted that Russia will sell weapons and RD-93 engines to Pakistan, but guess what we got what we wanted, and if PAF wanted Mig-35s they could have got them easily but they are not interested in those.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Indians did similar things when members here posted that Russia will sell weapons and RD-93 engines to Pakistan, but guess what we got what we wanted, and if PAF wanted Mig-35s they could have got them easily but they are not interested in those.

russia has lifted an arm embargo a while ago so theoretically you can buy what ever you want from russia. any thing means anything even if it annoys india. the Russians are taking a Chinese stance. where business is business and politics does not interfere in business.

besides india is turning away from russia. so russia needs to make up for lost revenue. Pakistan in russia eyes is an untapped market and Pakistan is welcoming russia as it has high tech weapons at cheaper prices than europe and the US.so its a win win for Pakistan. im not sure but the su35 may contain tech that that is featured on the t-50

 

[NKVD]

On jammers,w have no data to see if u are right.

ELTA El/M-8222 SPJ is one of the best EW in South Asia on board Sukhoi-30 mki.
Although Sukhoi-30 mki are also tested with Both KNIRTI SAP-14 & SAP-518 jamming pod but both of these are still not in Service Currently

Su-30MKI Flanker H model with KNIRTI SAP-14 and SAP-518 jamming pods on display at MAKS 2009.

 

[Pakistanisage]

Russia can sell Pakistan su 35,dowgrade the specs,even a down graded one will be better than what they can get from china.HAL should assemble them and deliver it to PFA.

Win-win for all.

Dil kay Bahlanayko Ghalib yeh Khayal Aacha hai.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night, PAL....

What is Russia trying to do to India ( or Indians for that matter ).

First we hear about Russia planning on selling Mi-35 Multi Role Attack Helicopters and now this thing about SU-35. Pakistan should gift their Eastern Neighbours shiploads of BURNOL as there is certainly going to be shortage of this valuable cream in India due to overuse.

 

[RazorMC]

I know that

It is said Russians were ready for TOT of Mig-35 if Pakistan is interested but Pakistan have showed interest in Su-30 (without canards) & Su-35s. Things are slowly materializing for Pakistan and time will tell how much closer military relations between Russia & Pakistan will go.

This is interesting news, do you have any source for this?

 

[CHI RULES]

so far nothing has been materialized between Pak and Russia. Not even Mi35 deal is clear. Pls keep your fingers crossed till any clear proof comes.

 

[NKVD]

First we hear about Russia planning on selling Mi-35 Multi Role Attack Helicopters and now this thing about SU-35. Pakistan should gift their Eastern Neighbours shiploads of BURNOL as there is certainly going to be shortage of this valuable cream in India due to overuse.

Russia always offer us best deals Pakistan only dreams to Match it
India, Russia to jointly build 200 military helicopters - The Hindu

For Su-35 Russia and India to work on 5th-gen upgrade to Su-35 fighter｜WCT

 

[chhota bheem]

Dil kay Bahlanayko Ghalib yeh Khayal Aacha hai.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night, PAL....

Dil kay Bahlanayko Ghalib yeh Khayal Aacha hai.[/B]

Whatever helps you sleep better at night, PAF....

 

[Pakistanisage]

Russia always offer us best deals Pakistan only dreams to Match it
India, Russia to jointly build 200 military helicopters - The Hindu

For Su-35 Russia and India to work on 5th-gen upgrade to Su-35 fighter｜WCT

Not if you keep buying from Europe and US.

Russia is pissed at you and they doing the same to you as you are doing to them.

It is just a matter of time before China and Pakistan will woo Russia away from India.

China is 5 times wealthier than India and has a lot more to offer to Russia than India.

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

A splendid news for Pakistan Air Force indeed.

Dil kay Bahlanayko Ghalib yeh Khayal Aacha hai.[/B]

Whatever helps you sleep better at night, PAF....

Try to violate the areal boundary to ap ka dil behlatai hain?

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

For us SU-35 is must because now we have to give air cover to Karachi and Gawadar, plus additional EEZ zone. so a Long Range Air Superiority Plane is a must.....
to secure sea lane we have to option
1. get a big and advance navy ( we new a single Cruise Ship cost more then a Squadrons of SU-35)
2. Get Best Long Range Planes ( its cheaper and quicker way )

Keep one thing in Mind India is Planning to Build a 200 Battle Ships Navy

to Counter we need 20 - 24 Submarines and Excellent air support.

What is unit cost of used upgraded Su-30? And how potent they might be? Will those come in similar cost of MLUed F-16?

@gambit your opinion is requested on above.

in a war situation, it would be like keep the air space secure for about a month, 2 max. remember india has mki which share some similarities to the su35. but obviously the su35 is better but they have a huge amount of su30 mki's. i would prefer if people talk sense before they talk. but nice pics though. i prefer this picture though.
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my idea is to rapidly incread the pakisti air forces fleet. older airframes that are too old may be cannibalised for spares.

Well Sukhoi-35 will move our Airforce into 2000+ era , much needed upgrade

We have alot of Mirages 150-200 that we need to replace and 36 odd Sukhoi-35 would help retire the Mirage fleet

Would be excellent purchase for Airforce add more quality

Sukhoi-35 could be the "Main Air Space Protector" if we opt for this Jet , very capable

I see this really as chance to replace the 1960-1970's Mirage technology its really about time

Tier 1 : Sukhoi - Air Superiority / Protecting Airspace

Tier 2: F16 , Special Missions , Air Space protection

Tier 3 : JF17 Thunder Workhorse

Tier 4 : Chinese / Mirage

Sukhoi would certainly help retire mirage fleet

Every one here is looking at Su-35 are going to be part of PAF and the news has been confirmed.

This is the reality Pakistan Navy requires a naval air arm and they were advised by PM few months back to buy the JF-17. So far there is no confirmation if this has gone through...Some news that has been reported on various internet sources are considering that PN if acquires JF-17's they still require a high end long range platform.

There are options of getting the J-11 series from China and also old F-18's from Australia. Russia offered the Mig-35 but in China when Su-35 made its debut PAF was impressed by the aircraft however on PDF there were pictures that were posted and criticisms on build quality were raised. Comparison of JF-17 build quality and SU-35 were put together and it was suggested that if Pakistan manufactures the Su-35 then the build quality would be similar to western aircraft.

China does no intend to fly the Su-35 that it is considering to purchase it to gain access to its Engine. Now when Pakistan requires the aircraft China got the Russians to give this to Pakistan still that gives China the access to the engine.

J-11D, J-15 & J-16's would be using the same SU-35 engine so in the future so one can not disregard that these might also be considered by PAF in future.