Vietnam ‘needs to change’ its reliance on Russian arms. Will the US step in to help upgrade its military?

[beijingwalker]

The US was not in Vietnam on Day 1 of the War. They were doing a good job at killing themselves before we ever entered.

Why did you enter?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Why did you enter?

Because like China they asked for help.

President Ngo Dinh Diem asked the US back in 1954 but we didn't join.

He came over in 1957 to speak his case.

However we didn't enter until the mid 1960's and by that time 10 years of killing had already passed.

Here's Vietnamese military footage from 1955 Saigon, South Vietnam

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Yes, we can see that in how well Russian arms are doing in Ukraine. LOL!!! Other than sending huge waves of unguided munitions in a general direction hoping to hit something important what other stuff of theirs has actually accomplished anything?

the technological gap between you and the Taliban's is even bigger. Cheap and effective weaponry wins wars most of the time

 

[IblinI]

Because like China they asked for help.

President Ngo Dinh Diem asked the US back in 1954 but we didn't join.

He came over in 1957 to speak his case.

However we didn't enter until the mid 1960's and by that time 10 years of killing had already passed.

Here's Vietnamese military footage from 1955 Saigon, South Vietnam

 

[Viet]

Because like China they asked for help.

President Ngo Dinh Diem asked the US back in 1954 but we didn't join.

He came over in 1957 to speak his case.

However we didn't enter until the mid 1960's and by that time 10 years of killing had already passed.

Here's Vietnamese military footage from 1955 Saigon, South Vietnam

Actually it was his wife, madame Nhu, who brought the US military to Vietnam. She hated communism. She urged the US administration, US congress to save Vietnam. she played a very unfortunate role in the disaster.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/09/26/the-dragon-lady-how-madame-nhu-helped-escalate-the-vietnam-war/

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Actually it was his wife, madame Nhu, who brought the US military to Vietnam. She hated communism. She urged the US administration, US congress to save Vietnam. she played a very unfortunate role in the disaster.

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Try and explain that to the Chinese members here.

They honestly think this was just the US just up and invaded Vietnam. The reality is fighting had been going on for years with many killed before the US even stepped in.

 

[mike2000 is back]

speaking of imperialism...dude, how was the taste of agent orange..
btw, you are sitting in germany for too long and has not been following the latest news, your motherland's pm literally said no and diss blinken in his face during his recent visit.

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cute little China obsessed yankee natobo...

You can't blame the US. They will do what they have to do to protect their national amd strategic interests..I see nothing wrong there. And all those countries hosting US bases are doing so voluntarily. Many are ecen urging the to do so..So you can't blame the US for obliging ..You can't only blame your country for not having the same appeal to other countries to welcome Chinese military base or presence unlike the US. Don't blame the player dude, blame the game.

 

[Viet]

Try and explain that to the Chinese members here.

They honestly think this was just the US just up and invaded Vietnam. The reality is fighting had been going on for years with many killed before the US even stepped in.

I think the history would run different course. Some time later after the visit to the US, Ngo Dinh diem was assassinated along with his brother. Then 2 weeks later John F Kennedy was assassinated, his brother was killed soon after. What a coincidence. The war was escalated after both brothers pairs were killed. Maybe in 100 years we will know why they were killed. Some said the US military complex had a strong interest.

Ngo Dinh Diem assassinated in South Vietnam | November 2, 1963 | HISTORY

Following the overthrow of his government by South Vietnamese military forces the day before, President Ngo Dinh Diem and his brother are captured and killed by a group of soldiers. The death of Diem caused celebration among many people in South Vietnam, but also lead to political chaos in the...

www.history.com

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

We have Agent Orange sites and victims over here too.

I think the history would run different course. Some time later after the visit to the US, Ngo Dinh diem was assassinated along with his brother. Then 2 weeks later John F Kennedy was assassinated, his brother was killed soon after. What a coincidence. The war was escalated after both brothers pairs were killed. Maybe in 100 years we will know why they were killed. Some said the US military complex had a strong interest.

Ngo Dinh Diem assassinated in South Vietnam | November 2, 1963 | HISTORY

Following the overthrow of his government by South Vietnamese military forces the day before, President Ngo Dinh Diem and his brother are captured and killed by a group of soldiers. The death of Diem caused celebration among many people in South Vietnam, but also lead to political chaos in the...

www.history.com

JFK was all for escalating in Vietnam. Likely his assassination slowed deployment not hastened it.

 

[Dalit]

if china behaves well no one is interested in joining anti-China alliances

First tell that to your own country India LOL

You can't blame the US. They will do what they have to do to protect their national amd strategic interests..I see nothing wrong there. And all those countries hosting US bases are doing so voluntarily. Many are ecen urging the to do so..So you can't blame the US for obliging ..You can't only blame your country for not having the same appeal to other countries to welcome Chinese military base or presence unlike the US. Don't blame the player dude, blame the game.

He is back. The P-a-k-i bashing Brit.

 

[Viet]

speaking of imperialism...dude, how was the taste of agent orange..
btw, you are sitting in germany for too long and has not been following the latest news, your motherland's pm literally said no and diss blinken in his face during his recent visit.

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cute little China obsessed yankee natobo...

You don’t understand.

Both, US and China military presence in the western pacific and southern China sea pose a danger to Vietnam security. It’s just who is more dangerous, the immediate threat. Issuing insult won’t help in your case.

 

[IblinI]

she played a very unfortunate role

What a wording you choose to used, “UNFORTUNATE” bravo bravo.

BTW, you should followed your motherland's news and world's politics more closely...

 

[etylo]

You don’t understand.

Both, US and China military presence in the western pacific and southern China sea pose a danger to Vietnam security. It’s just who is more dangerous, the immediate threat. Issuing insult won’t help in your case.

It would be a fool to make giants as your enemies esp that one is your immediate neighbour, in that case you are signing up for your own destruction.
Case of point now is Ukraine.

 

[khansaheeb]

if china behaves well no one is interested in joining anti-China alliances

Unfortunately for the US China is not their dog and not its master.

What a wording you choose to used, “UNFORTUNATE” bravo bravo.

BTW, you should followed your motherland's news and world's politics more closely...

Viet is a comfort boy?

 

[Song Hong]

The West always run fake election racket and get their dogs onboard.

Given the desire of people it would be Viet Minh who would have won the election.

Even if someone won heavily rigged election like Chile Salvador Allendes, US would just use financial terrorism and unleash coup de etat.

And US pretend all these is the desire of people of host countries,