If India is the superpower in software why did it buy an Israeli spyware?

[HostileInsurgent]

India has created a vast cheap force for call centre operations,

Why do you emphasise on call centres when you talk of India’s IT industry? There aren’t many call centres as one exaggerates so.

 

[Varunastra]

Your claim isn't factually accurate and your logic behind the claim is fundamentally flawed.
US's R&D operates on East Asian(majority Chinese) brain drain,350K Chinese are doing R&D in silicon valley,peking ,Tsinghua, graduates are carrying the bulwark of R& D in US too ,not just China's.
Without Chinese students US will fall 20 years behind in a blink.US's innovation engine is Chinese immigrants & Chinese Americans and tech/talent poaching from China. It's all about east Asians and some Europeans;natural selection.
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None are even close to replacement the quality and quantity of Chinese .Google/AMAZON are banned in China but they have R&D centres in Beijing ,Shanghai and many other places.Microsoft's Asia Headquarter is in Beijing.
They also have R&D centre in Korea ,Japan etc. But the public and the gov don't even want them,for they offer much less incentives and causes technological thief and braindrain,and Samsung and other local conglomerates offers much better pay and other perks to locals.



I believe the only way to best improve oneself is to realize its own potential and limitations.

A delusional amateur getting into boxing ring with Mayweather would only improve the stats of Mr.Mayweather.

Why are Indian Americans the most well to do minority group in USA if all the intellectuals are Chinese? Most work in either tech especially in California. Please not again with your all Indians in usa are wealthy businesses men from India theory, neither between say satya and sundar were rich to begin with just middle class people.
Also no one in right mind will choose to work for samsung over almost any top american tech company, the reviews simply aren't as good you can search online, also lesser salary and perks. Even if you talk about Samsung they have multiple r&d centers in India namely SRI Delhi, noida, bangalore. You think they are there because we don't have skilled engineers?
I'm ready to accept our short comings but not if you are putting it in a way that all east asians are somehow just better, you don't need to bring race into everything.

 

[Vapnope]

Facebook is Indian creation..

The guy you mentioned is American born to Indian parents. It is not an Indian creation as the guy born and bred in US.

 

[Leishangthem]

Why are Indian Americans the most well to do minority group in USA if all the intellectuals are Chinese? Most work in either tech especially in California. Please not again with your all Indians in usa are wealthy businesses men from India theory, neither between say satya and sundar were rich to begin with just middle class people.
Also no one in right mind will choose to work for samsung over almost any top american tech company, the reviews simply aren't as good you can search online, also lesser salary and perks. Even if you talk about Samsung they have multiple r&d centers in India namely SRI Delhi, noida, bangalore. You think they are there because we don't have skilled engineers?
I'm ready to accept our short comings but not if you are putting it in a way that all east asians are somehow just better, you don't need to bring race into everything.

When the small group of the wealthier and more educated class of a nation emigrates to the US and live in large household with many earners in the family pushing total household income up and never return to India when one make it ,than that small immigrant community is bound to higher on household income,they are minority for a reason. Indians aren't majority class of US just like filipino ,one of the poorest nation in asia but one of the richest in US.
Using small immigrant community's economic status is loser's excuse and different than Chinese carrying most(almost all) of R&D,olympiads records and other accolades in educational competitions.

Also no one in right mind will choose to work for samsung over almost any top american tech company, the reviews simply aren't as good you can search online, also lesser salary and perks. Even if you talk about Samsung they have multiple r&d centers in India namely SRI Delhi, noida, bangalore. You think they are there because we don't have skilled engineers?

Only Indians worships American tech firms like gods,I wasn't talking about India,Samung is India<<<< Samsung in vIETNAM ,just another assembly line with poor mandatory r&d ;I was talking about Samsung in Korea,the lvl of jobs,pay,r&d is next lvl ,with lowest wage starting at 37k USD and the perks are incomparable to others.
Someone even made a video explaining

Humans are animals,like dogs not everyone has the same aptitude and temperament.
Some are much more mature compared to tge wE aRe the best!!!bunch, despite insurmountable evidence ,unable to construe the inherent legup of some other beings have ,genetically+culturally .

 

[Sinnerman108]

Don't be blinded by your hatred.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/28/ind...panies-google-microsoft-amazon-in-top-10.html
A very small list of top tech companies with development centers in India. Think of any top tech company from apple, google, amazon, you'll most likely find a development office in India.

The only thing that means is India has a lot of cheap manpower, thus the development process is much cheaper.
It is much like why a lot of American manufacturing was in China,

Yet, it was companies like Apple etc that made the most money, because they own the IPR.

 

[Varunastra]

When the small group of the wealthier and most educated class of your nation emigrates to the US and live in large household with many earners in the family pushing total household income up and never return to India when one make it ,than that small immigrant community is bound to higher on household income,they are minority for a reason. Indians aren't majority class of US just like filipino ,one of the poorest nation in asia but one of the richest in US.
Using small immigrant community's economuc is loser's excuse and different than Chinese carrying all of R&D,olympiads and other accolades in educational competitions.

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Only Indians worships American tech firms like gods,I wasn't talking about India,Samung is India<<<< Samsung in vIETNAM ,just another assembly line with poor mandatory r&d ;I was talking about Samsung in Korea,the lvl of jobs,pay,r&d is next lvl ,with lowest wage starting at 37k USD and the perks are incomparable to others.
Someone even made a video explaining

Humans are animals,like dogs not everyone has the same aptitude and temperament.
Some are much more mature compared to wE aRe no leSs!!! despite insurmountable evidence ,unable to construe the inherent legup of some other beings have ,genetically+culturally.

Again with your Indians in USA are rich people from India theory why don't you realize that rich people don't need to work in tech or medicine to stay rich, is that too much to understand? Indians in usa are mostly in tech especially in California. It's just skill and hard work mate. Yes brain drain is real but that's because brain is real, american companies are ready to pay top dollar for Indian talent. Believe me when I say it you'll be hard pressed to find american tech firms not run by indians in higher management and also in software engineering.
Also your last statement is very racist. Don't know why you want to downplay Indian progress in IT, work hard and you also can earn top level salary here.
Also about your samsung in India <<<<samsung in vietnam claim i don't see the r&d center mentioned here, is it so new it's not even mentioned? -
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/about-us/location/research-development/
Don't be blinded by your east asian fantasies will you? The racism is clearly visible

The only thing that means is India has a lot of cheap manpower, thus the development process is much cheaper.
It is much like why a lot of American manufacturing was in China,

Yet, it was companies like Apple etc that made the most money, because they own the IPR.

Yes we offer cheaper developers compared to say in usa or europe but cheap doesnt mean less skilled, the developers when they switch teams internally and move to usa earn the same it's about gdp(ppp) per capita of the country required to achieve the similar lifestyle.
It's only a matter of time and Indian companies will start coming up and competing, the base is being layed and skilled force is being created in engineering.

 

[fitpOsitive]

actually never heard of any Indian apps or software, there is no Indian apps to ban

https://twitter.com/x/status/1417423060618170406

Orgional R&D is just shared with India. That's the reason.

 

[Leishangthem]

Again with your Indians in USA are rich people from India theory why don't you realize that rich people don't need to work in tech or medicine to stay rich, is that too much to understand? Indians in usa are mostly in tech especially in California. It's just skill and hard work mate. Yes brain drain is real but that's because brain is real, american companies are ready to pay top dollar for Indian talent. Believe me when I say it you'll be hard pressed to find american tech firms not run by indians in higher management and also in software engineering.
Also your last statement is very racist. Don't know why you want to downplay Indian progress in IT, work hard and you also can earn top level salary here.
Also about your samsung in India <<<<samsung in vietnam claim i don't see the r&d center mentioned here, is it so new it's not even mentioned? -
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/about-us/location/research-development/
Don't be blinded by your east asian fantasies will you? The racism is clearly visible

Yes we offer cheaper developers compared to say in usa or europe but cheap doesnt mean less skilled, the developers when they switch teams internally and move to usa earn the same it's about gdp(ppp) per capita of the country required to achieve the similar lifestyle.
It's only a matter of time and Indian companies will start coming up and competing, the base is being layed and skilled force is being created in engineering.

Again with your Indians in USA are rich people from India theory why don't you realize that rich people don't need to work in tech or medicine to stay rich, is that too much to understand? Indians in usa are mostly in tech especially in California.

India has a history of wealthy class mass migrating to the US,are you unaware of rich Indians leaving India?
6.5-9% of Indian American live below poverty line,meanhile it's 1% for Chinese.And rich Indians/filipinos never return unlike rich East Asians.A large household has higher income stats than small household.

Rest of the Indian American majority are workers that US hired for their industry as manpower from India ,brought in by H1B VISA,for filling the manpower shortage,it's like the TCs jobs offers seen in India,but for US tech firms, with better pay.

South Africans and Irish immigrants are the richest in Australia because they are hired for workforce by Australia for their mining industry just like US hires Indians by the H1B visa. .

What does that say anything other than US /Australia hiring Indian(US),S.African(Aus) for their necessary industries?

It's not like a games of thrones in US ,where Indians and rest of the population compete from poverty lvl to compete and prove their mettle ,Indians act like that's the case,when it's just US hiring qualified Indians for H1B visa and the Indians ending up with job security and income by default.

Meanwhile in meritocratic Singapore, ,Malays are richer than Indians .

It's not Indians out competing the rest like you wanna push,in actual competition,East Asians(Chinese) dominates all followed by some europeans

&hence have invented NVIDIA,YAHOO,ZOOM for US,and stacked awards in olympiads and others in awards and carries bulwark of R&D.

Also your last statement is very racist. Don't know why you want to downplay Indian progress in IT, work hard and you also can earn top level salary here.

I think it's fact ,and you can only deal with shortcomings by acknowledging reality.
Chinese put much more diligent effort to compete with Africans ( which has bigger lungs) in Olympics.

In the world only Indians are the most bragged beings that uses some fudged & misleading immigrant stats to gloat;never in my life I heard Chinese bragging about being most wealthy in Canada or UK,or any other doing the same.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Yeah , I too don't expect people out here to have outside knowledge.. Facebook was project of Divya Narendra handed out to jewkerburg by university..

About those white twins?

 

[Varunastra]

India has a history of wealthy class mass migrating to the US,are you unaware of rich Indians leaving India?
6.5-9% of Indian American live below poverty line,meanhile it's 1% for Chinese.And rich Indians/filipinos never return unlike rich East Asians.A large household has higher income stats than small household.

Rest of the Indian majority are workers that US hires for their industry as manpower from India like those from philippines,brought in by H1B VISA,for filling the manpower, like the TCs jobs offers seen in India,but for US tech firms, with better pay.

It's like South Africans and Irish immigrants are the richest in Australia because they are hired for workforce by Australia for their mining industry just like US hires Indians by the H1B visa .

What does that say anything other than US /Australia hiring Indian(US),S.African(Aus) for their necessary industries?

It's not like a games of thrones in US ,where Indians and rest of the population compete from poverty lvl to compete and prove their mettel ,Indians act like that's the case,when it's just US hiring Indians for H1B visa and them ending up with job securityand income by default.

Meanwhile in meritocratic Singapore, ,Malays are richer than Indians .View attachment 764047

It's not Indians out competing the rest like you wanna push,in actual competition,East Asians(Chinese) dominates all followed by some europeans
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&hence have invented NVIDIA,YAHOO,ZOOM for US,and stacked awards in olympiads and others in awards.

I think it's fact ,and you can only deal with shortcomings by acknowledging fact.Chinese put much more diligent effort to compete with Africans which has bigger lungs in Olympics,

In the world only Indians are the most bragged beings that uses some fudged & misleading immigrant stats to brag;never in my life I heard Chinese bragging about being most wealthy in Canada or UK,or any other doing the same.

The majority of Indians in usa aren't the rich folk just middle class in tech jobs usually. The below poverty metric I'm not sure about, but if true it shows more than there are all sorts of Indians in usa not just rich Indians like you are saying.
Atleast you are agreeing on a big majority of h1b work visa holders. Usa doesn't just give out work visas like that, you need to be sponsored, go through interviews and all. You think an american company is ready to give top dollars and sponsor visa for low quality jobs? We have the skills hence we are paid the bucks, we are paid the bucks so we have the highest salaries in the usa. It's not rocket science dude just common sense. It's not charity work going on with Average Indians being paid more than 100k, you talk as if h1bs are being given away like candy lol. If it's that easy to get 100k you can donate to me lol.
Don’t resort to racism and bullshit logic just because Indians are doing better than east asians whom you worship like gods.

 

[Leishangthem]

The majority of Indians in usa aren't the rich folk just middle class in tech jobs usually. The below poverty metric I'm not sure about, but if true it shows more than there are all sorts of Indians in usa not just rich Indians like you are saying.
Atleast you are agreeing on a big majority of h1b work visa holders. Usa doesn't just give out work visas like that, you need to be sponsored, go through interviews and all. You think an american company is ready to give top dollars and sponsor visa for low quality jobs? We have the skills hence we are paid the bucks, we are paid the bucks so we have the highest salaries in the usa. It's not rocket science dude just common sense. It's not charity work going on with Average Indians being paid more than 100k, you talk as if h1bs are being given away like candy lol. If it's that easy to get 100k you can donate to me lol.
Don’t resort to racism and bullshit logic just because Indians are doing better than east asians whom you worship like gods.

Are u census holder of US?
btw ,I never said every one of any ethnic communities are rich,but majority(almost all) of Indian immigrants naturalized are from H1B visa now,with job security,hand picked from H1B 5tier selection process, just like how Australia picks s.africans with mining experience for their own mining industry ,inturn ,s.africans are most wealthy minority in Australia .You don't see S.Afrians gloating about that? 65-70% of h1b visa registrations are Indians ,indians wanna flee their nation apparently.

US hiring Indians from the 70% of h1b visa applicants is different than age old indian americans competing from ground zero in US against every one else like all Indians insinuate, IndiAn american being wealthy is absolutely pointless.They are wealthy minority,because US hired qualified indian immigrans with decent pay to work for them.

Also about your samsung in India <<<<samsung in vietnam claim i don't see the r&d center mentioned here, is it so new it's not even mentioned? -
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/about-us/location/research-development/

Vietnam has 12+ IQ than India ,Samsung opened 220 million USD R&D centre in Vietnam,
my S21 is made in Vietnam,India can't make this.

 

[swnjo]

Why are you having Indian flag Mr false flagger?

he has a manipuri name but suck up to chinese memebers here. Probably someone with no self respect and deep inferiority complex. Ignore him. even chinese members don`t accept him as their own yet he shamelessly patronize them

 

[swnjo]

Why do you emphasise on call centres when you talk of India’s IT industry? There aren’t many call centres as one exaggerates so.

for average pakistani IT=call centres. Where as India has move up the ladder to custom business solution for business all over the world, the are still stuck with that. For example our system like UPI, for anyone else except Indians it will appear useless, because it doesnot have a play store app which avg. joe will connect with "IT", but think about it, the entire backend of financial service it provides to more than 1 billion people is mind boggling. millions of transaction 24X7 and data management is impossible without sound IT knowledge and infrastructure. Most of our neighboring country are still struggling with creating a basic online wallet system, while we created a system which made wallet-digital currency redundant. Most of Indian companies are associated with creating and managing such processes which many here have difficulty understanding. just look at the services offered by TCS, does pakistan or bangladeshi company even have the logistic or trained manpower to carry out such operations.?

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[HostileInsurgent]

for average pakistani IT=call centres. Where as India has move up the ladder to custom business solution for business all over the world, the are still stuck with that. For example our system like UPI, for anyone else except Indians it will appear useless, because it doesnot have a play store app which avg. joe will connect with "IT", but think about it, the entire backend of financial service it provides to more than 1 billion people is mind boggling. millions of transaction 24X7 and data management is impossible without sound IT knowledge and infrastructure. Most of our neighboring country are still struggling with creating a basic online wallet system, while we created a system which made wallet-digital currency redundant. Most of Indian companies are associated with creating and managing such processes which many here have difficulty understanding. just look at the services offered by TCS, does pakistan or bangladeshi company even have the logistic or trained manpower to carry out such operations.?

Accelerate Enterprise Digital Transformation for Sustainable Change

We help align technology and investment goals and provide an enterprise digital transformation roadmap with intelligent solutions for sustainable change.

www.tcs.com

Also Aarogya Setu and CoWin like advanced applications.

 

[mmr]

Are u census holder of US?
btw ,I never said every one of any ethnic communities are rich,but majority(almost all) of Indian immigrants naturalized are from H1B visa ,with job security,hand picked from H1B 5tier selection process, just like how Australia picks s.africans with mining experience for their own mining industry ,inturn ,s.africans are most wealthy minority in Australia .You don't see S.Afrians gloating about that? 65-70% of h1b visa registrations are Indians ,indians wanna flee their nation apparently.

US hiring Indians from the 70% of h1b visa applicants is different than age old indian americans competing from ground zero in US against every one else like all Indians insinuate, IndiAn american being wealthy is absolutely pointless.They are wealthy minority,because US hired qualified indian immigrans with decent pay to work for them.




Vietnam has 12+ IQ than India ,Samsung opened 220 million USD R&D centre in Vietnam,
my S21 is made in Vietnam,India can't make this.View attachment 764062

I agree ethnicity and IQ has lot to do with how a country's progress.

If India was suppose to be great power it will be by now. The fact is after 75 years of independence it is still a third world with 2k per capita income tells you a story. same goes for rest of south Asia. Mostly chest thumping and whining excuses instead of anything tangible.

Taiwan and Singapore both ethnically Chinese ppl and we can see what they are capable of.

Why did Germany and japan thrive? well you work with Japanese and German ppl and then work with brown ppl which i did thanks to living in multi cultural country you don't have to be genius to tell why....now ppl will say i am racist bla bla bla...but truth is a truth.

Yes India has some successful ppl in USA but these are management ppl (CEOs) all the R&D and profit belongs to USA. ITS WEIRED AVERAGE INDAINS KEEP CHEST THUMPING BECAUSE OF THIS.