IAF R-73/R-77 AAMs recovered from Mig-21 wreckage l Abhinandan did not fire any missile

[araz]

Yes and the folded part along it holds the other R-73 so India Abhi none done fired nothing.

Yara his own statement was that he was looking for a target when he got stuck. Now Mig 21 bison with 2 R73s and 2 drop tanks would not make a suitable platform for the mission. This means he was flying something else or he was lying. I dont know which is true but to me if we believe his statement then this plane is not his. Which means he was flying something else possibly a twin seater which would either be an MKI or more likely an M2k. So to me it remains a mystery as to which platform he was flying. The platform we have seen was entirely for interception which is what I would use the Bison for.

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[BHarwana]

Yara bis own stateme t was that be was looking to bomb something when he got stuck. Now Mig 21 bison with 2 R73s and 2 drop tanks would not make a suitable platform for the mission. This means he was flying something else or he was lying. I dont know which is true but to me if we believe his statement then this plane is not his. Which means he was flying something else possibly a twin seater which would either be an MKI or more likely an M2k. So to me it remains a mystery as to which platform he was flying. The platform we have seen was entirely for interception which is what I would use the Bison for.

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I don't know what he was flying because we have him and we had a mig21 wreckage so this is the only conclusion we have. Yes this could the jet of the pilot that landed on the other side of loc and he could be flying some other jet. But keep things to minimum this only thing we have for now. More info will be released in coming day so there will be more light to this whole thing until then we have to piece together the puzzle.

It is all speculation till now and rough analysis. But this Mig-21 has it's complete load with it, that is for sure.

 

[Slides]

Yara bis own stateme t was that be was looking to bomb something when he got stuck. Now Mig 21 bison with 2 R73s and 2 drop tanks would not make a suitable platform for the mission. This means he was flying something else or he was lying. I dont know which is true but to me if we believe his statement then this plane is not his. Which means he was flying something else possibly a twin seater which would either be an MKI or more likely an M2k. So to me it remains a mystery as to which platform he was flying. The platform we have seen was entirely for interception which is what I would use the Bison for.

A

No, he said he was looking for a target. That means an air to air target. Why would they use a Mig for an air to ground attack?

 

[araz]

No, he said he was looking for a target. That means an air to air target. Why would they use a Mig for an air to ground attack?

Which was what I could not understand. By target I thought he meant a ground target but could have been an intercept as well.
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[BHarwana]

someone posted the image of the tail of the mig here i cannot find it. if some know where that image is please tag me to it.

@araz here Abhi none done squad No.

 

[The Eagle]

@balixd

R-77 Tail Control Section
View attachment 547402 View attachment 547407
IF my observation is correct than MiG-21 was carrying 2 R-73 + 1 R-77 +1 SPJ and 1 centre line Fuel Tank

Seems like 2nd R-77 was burnt/exploded due to wing destruction. We can see that 2 missiles are in good condition as compare to the destroyed wing which pylon shows 1 R-73 burnt.

So the remains of 2nd R-77 (5th payload) are only tail control section as in this post.

2xR-73 (1 in good condition & other burnt intact to pylon of destroyed wing)
2xR77 (1 in good condition & other's tail section only due to destruction)
1xEFT as recovered.

someone posted the image of the tail of the mig here i cannot find it. if some know where that image is please tag me to it.

@araz here Abhi none done squad No.

View attachment 547513

AC number matches the tail and it was confirmed .I think picture is shared in this thread as well.

 

[BHarwana]

AC number matches the tail and it was confirmed .I think picture is shared in this thread as well.

here is the tail of Mig 21 bison

CU2328

 

[Maxpane]

here is the tail of Mig 21 bison

CU2328

beautiful

 

[GumNaam]

here is the tail of Mig 21 bison

CU2328

yanay kay, daikho (cu = see you) seena batteee (23) tay kamar attheee (28)!!!

 

[Mace]

As far the historical FACTS goes, before deliveries of blk-52 (C-D), Indians were assured through US senate, that our ordered F-16 are not going to hurt Indians. Your people were thoroughly satisfied, hence deliveries follow through. One of your request was that US teams will make regular inspections of our F-16, which US agreed as well, despite the fact that they had other controls in place for the purpose.
Same cannot be said for the earlier eagles from 80's and as i see, you are not suspicious of older blocks.

Now you tell me, why would PAF fly F16D... good for nothing vs. India!? Unless you claim PAF made a mistake !

You really need to strike out F-16D from your list and change it with some other model.

Regular inspections and training restrictions on F16s were introduced to prevent prying Chinese hands landing on US tech.

F16D fits the list perfectly. 2 seater F16D is the right bird in paf’s arsenal to conduct deep strikes and ECM.

 

[GumNaam]

Regular inspections and training restrictions on F16s were introduced to prevent prying Chinese hands landing on US tech.

F16D fits the list perfectly. 2 seater F16D is the right bird in paf’s arsenal to conduct deep strikes and ECM.

wrong again. None of our F-16s can carry any of our H series bombs that you were bombed with.

 

[valkyr_96]

A work of pure genius. This deserves multiple positive ratings. And then it needs to be tweeted and shared on Twitter while tagging Modi, Indian airforce chief, and India Today news channel.

@WebMaster @The Eagle @Horus

This is nice but another poster had boxed out 2x2 missiles in the first pic and closed this case because the two are burnt out. This also needs to be highlighted because the Sheldon guy did not consider those.

 

[Mace]

wrong again. None of our F-16s can carry any of our H series bombs that you were bombed with.

F16D ECM is perhaps the best or on par with the best in South Asia. And with AMRAAMs it is lethal. F16D without doubt will be on top of list to be part of package conducting deep strike.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Staged "eye witnesses" one saw/heard the planes of r half an hour, the other suddenly heard one cross in to india

What are these Indian military officers sorry "Kashmiri locals" hiding?

 

[valkyr_96]

Staged "eye witnesses" one saw/heard the planes of r half an hour, the other suddenly heard one cross in to india

lol this is fake as is the modus operandi of the Indian media. Do know that the Kashmiris started stoning the rescue helicopter which could not land when the helicopter "crashed" in budgam.

I think they fired at the civilians as well