IAF R-73/R-77 AAMs recovered from Mig-21 wreckage l Abhinandan did not fire any missile

[GumNaam]

This is the real and genuine version by some credible source. I can't disclose the source. Please listen this audio https://clyp.it/o1qoejl5

So it looks like F16s WERE used. And we brought down 3 indian fighters and a chopper, not 2 fighters and a chopper, namely, mig21, su30 and a mirage2000.

 

[CriticalThought]

It is not my work, but the entire PDF community.....i just organized and compiled it

I know you have put in hard work in confirming everything. Now let's get this package over to the guys who sent it through airmail

 

[khanmubashir]

Sure it's more than 2 weeks and cover ups could be done. Very difficult now to find the true picture from either side. Now it's only matter of faith like religion and nationalism. We each have our faiths and nationality.


Looks like you have experience it


Like I said it's not a village fair where bravado counts or Cricket where there are fairness rules. I would rather defeat the enemy by grounding their best forces and overwhelming them while weak.


If only you had asked for proof on other aspects of life you would not be fighting in religion.


You do what you have to and let India do what she has to.
If there is a clause that Pak use F16 only for terror against Afg then India will try to pressures Americans. It's not a question of crying or not. Americans are trying to hard sell huge weapons and trying to have India as strategic partner . Let's see if we can leverage. Maybe we can , maybe we can't. Pak jets crossed LoC. So we will try to do our best.

Sure it's more than 2 weeks and cover ups could be done. Very difficult now to find the true picture from either side.
U mean to say we can get a new f16 and all those aim 120 u claimed were fired


from a pawn shop Sonny ??

If we had used f16 in a mock bombing raid of Indian iok camp that is violation of agreement with USA f16 could only be used for defense and USA would have issued open statement and warning because lack of it would encourage us and of of other nations to use USA weapons without USA consent
So if USA hasn't issued any such warning that's means no f16 or aim 120 used as for missile scrap can be bought from third country scrap depot and like fake car plates number pasted upon but USA can checkout inventory of these weapons which r bought from coalition support fund deary

 

[SQ8]

Regardless

that is silly again .
anyway, when you are unbanned ask why your chief of army was late ...

Just sour grapes from him, expected him to be better at this.

On topic:
When the Indian elections are done and this drama over; certain aviation journalists with established credibility should be allowed if they wish to come and inspect the entirety of our fleet to see how much lies does the Indian nation live off.

 

[BHarwana]

Will this image help?

 

[SQ8]

Which Lies ?

Let me show you what lies are :

1. ISPR...We have 3 Pilots.... Oopsss... Soorry we Lied.... We have Just One.
2. We Never used F16s.... Oopsss Sorry.... That AIM 120 was from Taiwan
3. We Hit Deep Inside India... Ooopsss Sorry... We didnt even Cross LOC

Im ONLY Mentioning whats OFFICIAL by GoI and ISPR.

Now, be a man and tell me which Lies you are talking about ?



Nope. I dont need to be butthurt against people who didnt even claim their soldiers in 1999.

Stop frothing at your mouth first.. relax.. you are just facing frustration at an electioneering stunt gone foul.
My manhood is not in question since we don’t boast of 56inch chests.

Lets see:

1. We killed many terrorists, 300 to be exact.. oops.. we killed some terrorists.. we damaged a building - trees about a mile away. Unlike basic statements from our side we have 2 years worth of nonsense from your end.

2. We remained 25 minutes in the airspace - 4 minute incursion that due to PAF interceptors inbound resulted in an premature or incorrect release of a highly accurate weapons system— to kill trees.

3. We shot down a PAF F-16 since we have a section of a AIM-120 that probably disintegrated after it hit our aircraft. A F-16 went down, PAF used F-16s.. uncle USA PAF is playing unfair..

PAF F-16s were on Ambush CAP behind the LoC and in Pakistan borders at all times; never breached borders and were not part of offensive package- no lie there. We understand your whiny lobby in the US so our need to downplay using the F-16.

Multiple witnesses reported 3 pilots- fog of war tends to give that tendency. Unlike your end, we did not stick with incorrect information and corrected ourselves.

 

[GumNaam]

Will this image help?

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is that the self protection jammer pod?

 

[Secret Service]

Indian National Hero (Abhi None Done) was actually saving his a$$ from a chasing missile and end up losing his fighter without firing a single missile or bullet. I think someone given him psychoactive G.D Bakshi substance like cocaine to have a happy face during exchange and make him believe, he got F Sola.

BHARAT MATA KI JAY

 

[SQ8]

@Oscar while Indians are chest thumping,please tell them effects of wreckage on IAF operations.

They thump their chests all they want. Their entire narrative is based upon self-propogated misinformation and lies.
At the end of the day, two Indian jets are down- key hardened Brigade level HQs and logistics centers were rocked to their core and their occupants given PTSD.

Each and everyone of their lies is capable of being proven false through visual and electronic records while our ability to knock them silly has been recorded by them electronically, visually, audial and emotionally.

This bluster is restricted to Indian netizens and brainwashed populous; not the Indian Military who have a sobering lesson on their minds and aren’t taking at lightly at all.

Which is also why I’ll keep repeating that they are in wartime panic mode of brainstorming with advisors from four different countries to try and get us.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

@balixd

Probably remains of SPJ
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R-77 Tail Control Section
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IF my observation is correct than MiG-21 was carrying 2 R-73 + 1 R-77 +1 SPJ and 1 centre line Fuel Tank

notice the triangle part bent to the left is a pylon.
and dont be confused, Mig-21 does use different kind of pylons depending on armament.

Will this image help?

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one side of mig-21 wing with a R-73 tail still attached to a pylon. already explained in one of my previous post
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pict...fire-any-missile.607189/page-11#post-11287514

 

[Goku-kun]

A work of pure genius. This deserves multiple positive ratings. And then it needs to be tweeted and shared on Twitter while tagging Modi, Indian airforce chief, and India Today news channel.

@WebMaster @The Eagle @Horus

I'm sharing these pics with a facebook page called: 'Pakistan Affairs' who has dozens of followers maybe in millions and he is also quite good at these things but the point is that this information will goto public through these social media platforms and whoever is the owner of this amazing piece of work will be given credits for it..

 

[NA71]

back to the sound clip, can some one confirms the story on scale of 1 to 10? plz it has opened many more questions.

 

[SQ8]

@balixd

Probably remains of SPJ
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R-77 Tail Control Section
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IF my observation is correct than MiG-21 was carrying 2 R-73 + 1 R-77 +1 SPJ and 1 centre line Fuel Tank

Same configuration they used in Cope India

 

[GumNaam]

back to the sound clip, can some one confirms the story on scale of 1 to 10? plz it has opened many more questions.

I dunno man, the guy spoke with a lot of confidence. His lingo also indicated that he is active military as well.

 

[HRK]

I have been reading since morning and apparently mig 21 was carrying 2 R73, 2 R77 and one EFT as said by @balixd in my opinion.

What you say? Do you agree with this configuration?

we are trying to sort it out .... the only mystery left is related to SPJ which mean in the presence of SPJ this configuration would be as suggested in my post otherwise it will remain as you have stated