IAF R-73/R-77 AAMs recovered from Mig-21 wreckage l Abhinandan did not fire any missile

[Mace]

You had your chance to come deep inside to shoot down F16s, in fact Abhi had better pair of balls than the rest to at least chase in his inferior aircraft. The mighty flankers and MK2s didn't even put up a fight.

The same can be said about F16s that let MK2s bomb Pak territory. ROE defined at that point could have dictated behaviour.

 

[Vapnope]

The same can be said about F16s that let MK2s bomb Pak territory. ROE defined at that point could have dictated behaviour.

What we could do was evident the next morning in a broad day light... We are content at that..

 

[Riz]

Yeah right, but we crossed, and dropped payload near six key targets.. It was a responsible act.

And monkey bapan rawat was also there . Lol biggest surprise of the history of South asia..

 

[Suriya]

You had your chance to come deep inside to shoot down F16s, in fact Abhi had better pair of balls than the rest to at least chase in his inferior aircraft. The mighty flankers and MK2s didn't even put up a fight.

1. Mig 21 were the first responders as they coming . So they scrambled from Srinagar

2 . Su30 weren't around initially , they came after some time by the time when F7 and JF17s were going back , at time PAF F16s fire BVRs while remaining deep in the pakistan airspace at Su30s as cover fire for retreating PAF jets . There no reason for firing BVR when PaF jet were retreating since we aren't in a war . F16 did something they shoudn't have done and got lucky they missed Su30s .

3 . What Abhinandan did was his own choice in a complex situation and also Pakistani jets were in his WVR lock . He too shd have remained in Indian air space .

 

[I.R.A]

I have started to get idea of ....... who would have suggested employing and paying dedicated media cells to Nawaz Sharif and his daughter. Enjoying the meals at that wedding wasn't the only thing .....

 

[crankthatskunk]

SU30 less likely .
F16D most likely - . Don’t know why u guys even discount that possibility completely. Forcing Abhi to say he was looking for targets when he was shot by Pak authorities makes this even more plausible.

Well, If you put your "damaq ki bati on", Abhi should have said, I chased a target and destroyed it, rather than saying I was looking for targets. Why would he shy away after he is back in India, if he had such a kill to report to the world!!
Go get some "wisdom" tablets.

 

[Areesh]

Abhi never made that claim- agree.

Disagree on your second point. I can equally assume that F16 went down. It is a fair possibility. If you have proof otherwise then we can talk about your intelligent guess.

We have a shot down Mig 21 to prove that we have shotdown IAF aircraft(s)

What you have? Guesswork?

 

[Wow]

See, India is NOT trying to prove we killed an F16s.
Its trying to show to the US, Your F16s are being use against India.
Now, You sold them..... if you wanna sell More weapons to India.....You must do something about YOUR Weapon used Against YOUR STRATEGIC PARTNER.

It will use Israel and its Tactics to make your f16s unusable. Just wait and watch.
India didnt kill just one F16, they are trying to Kill them ALL.

Baniya ka Dimag hai Sahab !

LOL what!?! its amazing you Indians dont win the world cup every year because you move the goal post so many time

 

[Safriz]

Hd video of the wreckage .

The bullets can be seen. So there was no wvr dogfight , or he had emptied his machine gun.
Other than that plenty of missile parts can be seen
The right wing got extensive damage or may be fell at a distance so the other two missiles may have burnt or fell off with the other wing .
The left wing was where these two missiles must be hanging ..

 

[crankthatskunk]

Yes, till PAF lines up the all the F16Ds intact we cannot discount F16 did not go down that day. You and I just don’t have that verifiable proof right now.

No, I will not take your word for proof.

Where did the second plane fall down!! Indian side.
Why wouldn't India shows what plane was it!!

 

[NA71]

BVRs were not the only thing the Pakistani jets fired at Indian Occupied Kashmir

ohhhhhh....please let it be known ...at this age ...i can not withstand too much suspense.

1. Mig 21 were the first responders as they coming . So they scrambled from Srinagar

2 . Su30 weren't around initially , they came after some time by the time when F7 and JF17s were going back , at time PAF F16s fire BVRs while remaining deep in the pakistan airspace at Su30s as cover fire for retreating PAF jets . There no reason for firing BVR when PaF jet were retreating since we aren't in a war . F16 did something they shoudn't have done and got lucky they missed Su30s .

3 . What Abhinandan did was his own choice in a complex situation and also Pakistani jets were in his WVR lock . He too shd have remained in Indian air space .

Point2 is too straight and seems as it happened till ..."MISSED SU30" Review it.

 

[crankthatskunk]

It was utterly irresponsible for pakistai F16 to fire BVRs from deep within Pakistani territory at Indian Su30 on CAPs when there was no open hostilities between the two countries . They all missed for evasive action of Su30s .

OK, I have a suggestion for the Indians. You see Pakistanis showed the trees damaged and hole in the ground from the bomb fired by IAF. Why don't you guys show the bomb blast craters on the Indian site, for us to judge what damages were caused by PAF broad day strikes!!!

 

[untitled]

ohhhhhh....please let be known ...at this age ...i can not withstand too much suspense.

Ask the people at the Indian Brigade HQ. They will tell you a tale of a truly bone shaking shaking experience.

There is plenty more from where that came from

 

[Lincoln]

Which Lies ?

Let me show you what lies are :

1. ISPR...We have 3 Pilots.... Oopsss... Soorry we Lied.... We have Just One.
2. We Never used F16s.... Oopsss Sorry.... That AIM 120 was from Taiwan
3. We Hit Deep Inside India... Ooopsss Sorry... We didnt even Cross LOC

Im ONLY Mentioning whats OFFICIAL by GoI and ISPR.

Now, be a man and tell me which Lies you are talking about ?



Nope. I dont need to be butthurt against people who didnt even claim their soldiers in 1999.

Are you retarded or pretending to be one?

1. One arrested, 2 in the area; never found. One arrest then confirmed.
2. F-16s were used as stand-by escort, they were not used for ground bombing missions: AMRAAM is an AAM, not an AGM. So, they were not used in the operation i.e. ground bombing, they operated from a safe distance and used BVRs, there was no dogfight because you don't make jets jets loaded with BVR AAM engage in WVR combat, the missiles for each scenario are very different.
3. That's because you don't need to, even the IAF only crossed 5 km before running back. It's the 21st century, you don't need to be freaking directly on top, you can launch AGM's from large ranges. Many PDF members have discussed that before.

If I were to start posting here the lies by Indian Media and Officials, the list would never end; here's a teaser for you though:

" All our planes and pilots are accounted for "

Enjoy.

 

[aliyusuf]