IAF R-73/R-77 AAMs recovered from Mig-21 wreckage l Abhinandan did not fire any missile

[Areesh]

Lol. They still trying to show that their F16 wasn't shot down?

Nothing to show. It never was shot down.

What a waste of bandwidth

2 parachutes went down. It was either a SU30 or F16D

Don’t lose it people

Looking at the abysmal performance of IAF, it is more probable to be Su30

 

[Pakistan First]

In my 10+ years here on this forum, I have seldom seen such ruthless asswhopping being carried out of indians by Pakistanis.

And these indians have their Modi to thank for this.

 

[NA71]

Using Spice is not equivalent to IAF intruding 80km.
Do not twist facts.
IAF only got to a vantage point in order to release the SPICE ammo and then speed back.
They failed to do it right.

PAF buzzed your brigade HQ , only to be chased by IAF.
There were more planes than Mig21; and they returned back from LOC as per orders ( on both sides apparently )
Abhinandan didn't turn, and got shot at.

Infact SPICE 800 is high kill ratio of 99% approx. but in the hands of Indian kill ratio goes to 0% hahahaha

Whats the news on Abhinandan?

Is he going to be court martialed??

That guy is bravo....he said he will not change his statement when go back to India.....he stands by his statement...Indians tried hard to get his video saying PA tortured me and forced me to record...but so far he refused. He has been sent on medical leaves.

 

[Mace]

Nothing to show. It never was shot down.



Looking at the abysmal performance of IAF, it is more probable to be Su30

SU30 less likely .
F16D most likely - . Don’t know why u guys even discount that possibility completely. Forcing Abhi to say he was looking for targets when he was shot by Pak authorities makes this even more plausible.

 

[Areesh]

SU30 less likely .
F16D most likely - . Don’t know why u guys even discount that possibility completely. Forcing Abhi to say he was looking for targets when he was shot by Pak authorities makes this even more plausible.

Abhi never claimed he shot down F16

If you are not a fool then it is easy to guess that F16 was never shot down.

 

[airomerix]

Imran,

1. PAF DIDNT RETALIATE AT ALL When IAF Enetered Pakistan. Explain That.
2. IAF IMMEDIATELY , RETALIATED and Abhinanadan Scambled Agaisnat Targets which were "Officialy" on their Side of LOC..

tell Me.. Are you REALLY.. Im meas seriously Prooud that Your AirSpace was RAIDED and your AIRFORCE did nothing ?

And This was nothing compared to 90000 captured in 71 and Hundreds never claimed in 1999.
What Humiliation are you talking about.

Infact What Abhinandan Did was Smething ENTIRELY Misssed by PAF.

Um no.

JF-17 had a missile lock on the lead bandit before your RWR were put to a good use. This is when sense prevailed and your entire strike package decided to ditch the mission and head home. The entire 21 minute story was as crap as it could get.

And mind you. It was an Su 30 which was locked on by an JF-17 not a Mirage 2000.

However one thing was lauded able about IAF for the event of 26th.The weather was VERY VERY bad at that time when the incursion took place. Still they took off and took the trouble of intruding and this can be termed courageous. But this entire narrative of surgical strikes and loitering in that harsh weather for 21 minutes is comical.

 

[Maarkhoor]

No body is saving a pride here.
Just sort out Proven facts with UN Proven Stories and you will get the picture.

Indian Claims :

1. F16 Fired Missiles : AIM 120 Shown .. F16 were used ... Proved
2. We Hit Deep Inside Balakot... Trees + Crows Killed.... Proved
3. When IAF Hit , PAF was Sleeping .. ZERO RETALIATION ( Like Abhinandan Did ) .. Proved

Pakistani Claims & Reversals :

1. We Have 3 Pilots > Then Just 1 > Where did the other Go ?
2. We Never used F16 > Then where did India get AIM 120 from ?
3. We Hit Deep Inside India > Then Why This .. ? ( Note the Term "from within pakistani airspace" ) , They didnt even cross the LOC !

India NEVER Changed its "Official" position. NEVER.
"saving pride" is the act of people who make Bizzare Claims and later Retract.

Mig-21 can't carry much fuel to carry a mission or chase Inside Pakistan, So Mig-21 is armed with EFT....proved since we have that fuel tank...Let me tell you one thing...it is quite basic as soon as pilots contacted with enemy aircraft ...first of all they release extra payload means EFT's....and as per your IAF Mig-21 started chase from Indian side so the tank must be released in India not in Pakistan.....Which suggests Mig-21 / Abinandan have no idea where are the bogies / baba yaga and fell in trap....we were waiting for them to cummm and take a tea with us.....if you have a little brain as much as a crow ...you should not argument further on this....

 

[NA71]

What a waste of bandwidth

2 parachutes went down. It was either a SU30 or F16D

Don’t lose it people

exactly, slowly info is coming out more and more....I hope ISPR playing fine....ultimate photos of SU30 are on its way.....

 

[Rafael]

What a waste of bandwidth

2 parachutes went down. It was either a SU30 or F16D

Don’t lose it people

A mig 21 CANNOT shoot down an F-16 D even if it re-built for a thousand times.

So its probably an MKI.

 

[Windjammer]

SU30 less likely .
F16D most likely - . Don’t know why u guys even discount that possibility completely. Forcing Abhi to say he was looking for targets when he was shot by Pak authorities makes this even more plausible.

PAF is willing to line up all of it's F-16s before international military observers, is India willing to do same.
It doesn't take a genius to conclude as why your SU-30s were busy dodging AMRAAMS rather than firing their own weapons.

 

[Mace]

Abhi never claimed he shot down F16

If you are not a fool then it is easy to guess that F16 was never shot down.

Abhi never made that claim- agree.

Disagree on your second point. I can equally assume that F16 went down. It is a fair possibility. If you have proof otherwise then we can talk about your intelligent guess.

 

[NA71]

PAF is willing to line up all of it's F-16s before international military observers, is India willing to do same.
It doesn't take a genius to conclude as why your SU-30s were busy dodging AMRAAMS rather than firing their own weapons.

Well said, we are ready for count, IF SU 30 count is also be scheduled on same time. I doubt banya is very cleaver they knew from very first day....and might added the count from Russians. Remember if we lost F16 we would never be able to add lost count from anywhere coz of Yankees.

 

[Amaa'n]

PAF is willing to line up all of it's F-16s before international military observers, is India willing to do same.
It doesn't take a genius to conclude as why your SU-30s were busy dodging AMRAAMS rather than firing their own weapons.

two things to consider here, if Mig was carrying ECM pod on one hard point, EFT on second, that leaves two more hard points for AAMs.
It is established that Mig21 bison was a WVR hit, so ECM had no chance to dodge that. while with SU30 MKI, the AMRAAM will home in on the EMC pod? so it hit the wing not the tail pipe?

 

[Arsalan]

SU30 less likely .
F16D most likely - . Don’t know why u guys even discount that possibility completely. Forcing Abhi to say he was looking for targets when he was shot by Pak authorities makes this even more plausible.

For two reasons mainly,

1. The wreckage of second plane fell inside India as indicated by numerous amateur videos. If it was a PAF F-16 Indian authorities would have paraded it in front of whole world.
2. Multiple news agencies and research agencies rejecting the claim of F-16 getting shot.
3. Piece of AIM-120 found in India confirming F-16 firing at an Indian target and Indian authorities also claiming that their planes were locked and engaged and that they "defeated" the missile. It all sounds nothing more than face saving.

 

[Mace]

PAF is willing to line up all of it's F-16s before international military observers, is India willing to do same.
It doesn't take a genius to conclude as why your SU-30s were busy dodging AMRAAMS rather than firing their own weapons.

Yes, till PAF lines up the all the F16Ds intact we cannot discount F16 did not go down that day. You and I just don’t have that verifiable proof right now.

No, I will not take your word for proof.