IAF Chief to visit Bangladesh next week

[ebr77]

MIG-29 is a good AC, it's for air superiority, this ain't much effective for ground bombing. But the cost we have to bear to keep them in service is very high. And India always have good amount of spares of MIG-29/MIG-21, they can be a good vendor for these.

 

[TopCat]

Asking to have full sleeve blouse is inappropriate for a host country but Indian fat ladies should had looked around and see whether anybody else were wearing those including the westerners in the same function. I bet they did not...

 

[ApparentRaceTraitor]

Because they've been screwing us and wants us to be screwed/slave of theirs. They also visit Burma and provide teeth to its arm forces whereas Mula to ours, which means they provide milk to snake and tiger both but us being Muslim-tiger get adulterated one.

They had failed all the litmus-Friendship tests in the past, have been failing constantly and would fail in the future too. In the last RAWAMY term, they had used us to get the best deal on MIG-29K whilst letting Ruskies getting away by providing us as used ones. Those junks couldn't be flown and stayed as duds until Saifur Rahman re-negotiated and paid extra 20 (Around) Mil to MAPO-MIG. 90% of their provided ammos were dumped as it couldn't be used either. So, we'd better off staying without them as the saying goes like Vhando Bondhur cheye soth Shatru O Valo.

wasn't aware that BD had a requirement for carrier borne aircraft.

 

[Roybot]

Asking to have full sleeve blouse is inappropriate for a host country but Indian fat ladies should had looked around and see whether anybody else were wearing those including the westerners in the same function. I bet they did not...

Can you ladies stop talking about blouse and petticoats. Jeez

 

[M_Saint]

wasn't aware that BD had a requirement for carrier borne aircraft.

Read 'used SE' instead of 'as used' as it was an honest mistake.

 

[Zabaniyah]

MIG-29 is a good AC, it's for air superiority, this ain't much effective for ground bombing. But the cost we have to bear to keep them in service is very high. And India always have good amount of spares of MIG-29/MIG-21, they can be a good vendor for these.

The current SE variants we have cannot target ground targets. That's the job of the F-7s and A-5s we have. BGIs will add more to that aspect.

But the MiG-29 SMT standard has pretty formidable ground attack capabilities.

Cutaway:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RtxFcnRbRY4/Tv2r2mCtt9I/AAAAAAAAAuM/LIwhey2jX6Q/s1600/Mig-29SMT.jpg

I think it is prudent that we upgrade the current ones to SMT

 

[Zabaniyah]

Because they've been screwing us and wants us to be screwed/slave of theirs. They also visit Burma and provide teeth to its arm forces whereas Mula to ours, which means they provide milk to snake and tiger both but us being Muslim-tiger get adulterated one.

What teeth? Antiquated T-55s and some new Dhruvs? lolz...

They had failed all the litmus-Friendship tests in the past, have been failing constantly and would fail in the future too. In the last RAWAMY term, they had used us to get the best deal on MIG-29K whilst letting Ruskies getting away by providing us as used ones.

We don't operate MiG-29Ks. It's a carrier based aircraft.

Those junks couldn't be flown and stayed as duds until Saifur Rahman re-negotiated and paid extra 20 (Around) Mil to MAPO-MIG. 90% of their provided ammos were dumped as it couldn't be used either. So, we'd better off staying without them as the saying goes like Vhando Bondhur cheye soth Shatru O Valo.

How is it junk? I see them flying near my home very often. So yes, I can say they do fly.

 

[Roybot]

Bangladesh should go for UPG upgrades similar to IAF Mig-29 UPG.

 

[M_Saint]

What teeth? Antiquated T-55s and some new Dhruvs? lolz... .

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India begins supplying Myanmar military hardware
Ignoring protests from Western countries, India has begun transferring military equipment to Myanmar's military junta in order to neutralise China's burgeoning defence, diplomatic and economic ties with Yangon.


Rahul Bedi (IANS)
New Delhi, October 4, 2006|16:46 IST

Ignoring protests from Western countries, India has begun transferring military equipment to Myanmar's military junta in order to neutralise China's burgeoning defence, diplomatic and economic ties with Yangon.

In August, unmindful of British protests, the Indian Navy transferred two BN-2 'Defender' Islander maritime surveillance aircraft and deck-based air-defence guns and varied surveillance equipment to Myanmar.

Soon after the navy announced its intention of supplying the British-built Islanders to Myanmar following Indian Navy Chief Admiral Arun Prakash's visit to Yangon in January, Britain had declared that it would be unable to provide spares and maintenance support for them as it opposed the country's military administration.

Alongside, India had quietly transferred other hardware to the Myanmarese military.

"We have recommended and started giving them (Myanmar) 105-mm Indian field guns," Indian Army Vice-Chief Lt Gen S Pattabhiraman told Force magazine recently.

http://www.indoburmanews.net/archives-1/archive06/007/Hware/

So Indians are supplying little more than Dhurav and A-55S to Burmese, no? And don't they look to encounter BN walas to you, BRO?

How is it junk? I see them flying near my home very often. So yes, I can say they do fly.

You saw them flying because EX-FM Saifur Rahman had re-negotiated the deal to get spare parts when those stayed grounded. And even after extra payments, longevity was another issue since the plane's hours were used. So Hasina/Bharati/Ruskie nexus brought nothing but junk for BAF to get their cuts but by our expenses.

Once I read that those couldn't be upgraded to SMT directly without making deep structural modification first. Compare to those MIGS, F-7BGS were much better of a deal as those were new, top-notch of F-7S and less than half the prize.

 

[Rokto14]

why not? they should co-operate with them. i think they should have better ties with russia too.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

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India begins supplying Myanmar military hardware
Ignoring protests from Western countries, India has begun transferring military equipment to Myanmar's military junta in order to neutralise China's burgeoning defence, diplomatic and economic ties with Yangon.


Rahul Bedi (IANS)
New Delhi, October 4, 2006|16:46 IST

Ignoring protests from Western countries, India has begun transferring military equipment to Myanmar's military junta in order to neutralise China's burgeoning defence, diplomatic and economic ties with Yangon.

In August, unmindful of British protests, the Indian Navy transferred two BN-2 'Defender' Islander maritime surveillance aircraft and deck-based air-defence guns and varied surveillance equipment to Myanmar.

Soon after the navy announced its intention of supplying the British-built Islanders to Myanmar following Indian Navy Chief Admiral Arun Prakash's visit to Yangon in January, Britain had declared that it would be unable to provide spares and maintenance support for them as it opposed the country's military administration.

Alongside, India had quietly transferred other hardware to the Myanmarese military.

"We have recommended and started giving them (Myanmar) 105-mm Indian field guns," Indian Army Vice-Chief Lt Gen S Pattabhiraman told Force magazine recently.

India begins supplying Myanmar military hardware — Indo-Burma (Indo-Myanmar) News

So Indians are supplying little more than Dhurav and A-55S to Burmese, no? And don't they look to encounter BN walas to you, BRO?

India has to keep China factor while dealing with Myanmar.

I hope Indo-Bangla relations prosper much better than the troubled past.

 

[Zabaniyah]

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Rahul Bedi (IANS)
New Delhi, October 4, 2006|16:46 IST

Ignoring protests from Western countries, India has begun transferring military equipment to Myanmar's military junta in order to neutralise China's burgeoning defence, diplomatic and economic ties with Yangon.

In August, unmindful of British protests, the Indian Navy transferred two BN-2 'Defender' Islander maritime surveillance aircraft and deck-based air-defence guns and varied surveillance equipment to Myanmar.

Soon after the navy announced its intention of supplying the British-built Islanders to Myanmar following Indian Navy Chief Admiral Arun Prakash's visit to Yangon in January, Britain had declared that it would be unable to provide spares and maintenance support for them as it opposed the country's military administration.

Alongside, India had quietly transferred other hardware to the Myanmarese military.

"We have recommended and started giving them (Myanmar) 105-mm Indian field guns," Indian Army Vice-Chief Lt Gen S Pattabhiraman told Force magazine recently.

India begins supplying Myanmar military hardware — Indo-Burma (Indo-Myanmar) News

So Indians are supplying little more than Dhurav and A-55S to Burmese, no? And don't they look to encounter BN walas to you, BRO?

And what is so special about those equipment? What? They gonna arm Myanmar with MKIs to destroy Bangladesh? They can't export those for starters.

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You saw them flying because EX-FM Saifur Rahman had re-negotiated the deal to get spare parts when those stayed grounded. And even after extra payments, longevity was another issue since the plane's hours were used. So Hasina/Bharati/Ruskie nexus brought nothing but junk for BAF to get their cuts but by our expenses.

Do you even know why they had so many problems in the first place? It was known that BAF went for cheap spares from East European and Central Asian countries. That's what damaged their engines. Hence, the farce over them.

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Once I read that those couldn't be upgraded to SMT directly without making deep structural modification first. Compare to those MIGS, F-7BGS were much better of a deal as those were new, top-notch of F-7S and less than half the prize.

That shows you are a moron who's more concerned about politics than the real thing

It is politics that damages the credibility of the armed forces. And even today, it still is. And you are not helping at all.

 

[M_Saint]

And what is so special about those equipment? What? They gonna arm Myanmar with MKIs to destroy Bangladesh? They can't export those for starters.



Do you even know why they had so many problems in the first place? It was known that BAF went for cheap spares from East European and Central Asian countries. That's what damaged their engines. Hence, the farce over them.




That shows you are a moron who's more concerned about politics than the real thing

It is politics that damages the credibility of the armed forces. And even today, it still is. And you are not helping at all.

BN-2 'Defender' Islander maritime surveillance aircraft, deck-based air-defence guns, varied surveillance equipment and 105-mm Indian field guns aren't comparable to MKI as those are like apples and orange but in a hypothetical war scenario in BD-Burma's case; especially a NAVAL one is somehow significant. Indians are allowed to build licensed copy of MKIs, so exporting them is out of question but do Burmese even need them in BD-Burma's perspective? They have more and potent MIG-29s along with a better equipped air force than ours, don't you agree? Now question is if Indians aren't in a mission to screw/check us out through Burmese then why are they sending NAVAL goodies to them? Oh I see! Hedging against SINOS. Are we insane/Nuts to believe that so little, so insignificant of hardwares would create any impact on a probable super power? Don't you think that applying all in equation, my argument on unwelcoming Indian Mil stays correct?

2ndly I was a compulsive follower of MIGS how bouts thus was pretty well informed about BAFER's getting run around but original question was why Bharati brokered and let Ruskie sell us used junks at the first place to get better deal on MIG-29Ks? Bharatis were empirically experienced in flying MIGs but if they were our real friends then why did they make better deal out of our expenses?

3rdly I didn't know what part of it seemed moronic to you but BAFERS were extremely happy with F7-BGS, the poor man's F-Solas whilest many didn't even want to hear about the Ruskie junk anymore. I understood that MIG-29s had 2 engines thus possessed better thrust, longer range, more weapon bays but by what cost? And what significance it brought, any tactical or strategic? IMO, Nil, Nada, Zip, Zilch. So, don't think that just because I don't poke my nose in MIL Hardware's related thread very often, I'm novice or moron. I'd been exploring that area even probably before you were borne. And ask Bharatis on how much they weigh on Geo-political scenario before buying military hardware to fit it in their scheme of things, thanks.

 

[Ammyy]

2ndly I was a compulsive follower of MIGS how bouts thus was pretty well informed about BAFER's getting run around but original question was why Bharati brokered and let Ruskie sell us used junks at the first place to get better deal on MIG-29Ks? Bharatis were empirically experienced in flying MIGs but if they were our real friends then why did they make better deal out of our expenses?

Some people never want to learn ....

How Mig29 K related to Bangladesh ??? ..... Carrier based fighter ( Dnt even think about it even in your dream)

And please share some info how India make benefit of Bangladesh in any deal ??

 

[M_Saint]

Some people never want to learn ....

How Mig29 K related to Bangladesh ??? ..... Carrier based fighter ( Dnt even think about it even in your dream)

And please share some info how India make benefit of Bangladesh in any deal ??

Some Bharatis never get out of nationalistic-pot's impact. Have you even read what I wanted to mean? Brokering junk for neighbor to get better deal on other doesn't necessarily mean that brokering same junk for both, do you understand?

There is a wide spread believe that Bharatis had let Ruskies move the junks to BD's hanger for them to get better, newer version of it for its career. Understand now?