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IAEA, Hypocrisy and Israeli Nukes.

Reality is driving you insane shylock!

Reality is own my side: Israel has the right to exist and defend itself and its allegedly WMD are a lesser threat to the world than Bangladesh.

On your side there is only anti-Semitism.
 
I think we should ignore zionist trolls. Let him talk to himself.
 
I think we should ignore zionist trolls. Let him talk to himself.

How can I be the troll when you and the buster(ed) never said anything significant and did not argue on your opinions?

Not liking what I have to say does not make me a troll. But you can run from any discussion, like your anti-Semite friend.

Until you stop running away my arguments are not challenged: Israel is no threat to the world and you all should concentrate on other nuclear threats, like Iran, Pakistan and North Korea.

Hence, without any real objection to my opinions, I ask the moderator to close this thread.
 
Reality is own my side: Israel has the right to exist and defend itself and its allegedly WMD are a lesser threat to the world than Bangladesh.

On your side there is only anti-Semitism.

The zionist WMDs are the real threat to world peace!
 

And give this zionist nazi the last say, that's a no no. I want to see how long he can lie.

Dear moderator, as you can see, this troll is not here to argue or discuss this thread, and he is the only one here. I think it would be best that you close this thread for moderation. No one is ready to discuss this issue anyway.
 
Dear moderator, as you can see, this troll is not here to argue or discuss this thread, and he is the only one here. I think it would be best that you close this thread for moderation. No one is ready to discuss this issue anyway.

Moderator can see how desperate you are too avoid this important topic. The israeli WMDs are the mother and father of all threat and you want the forum to close this thread.
 

Moderator can see how desperate you are too avoid this important topic. The israeli WMDs are the mother and father of all threat and you want the forum to close this thread.

I want to close this thread because not you and not anybody else discuss the issue, you only repeat your slogans and do not explain or debate them.
 

You repeat your lies, so the truth needs to repeated as well.

I repeat my questions for you to explain your opinion and you did not answer any one of them, only you repeat like a robot on the same rubbish I have already proved as lies.

Dear moderator, I think it would be best to close this thread as no discussion is taking place here.
 
I repeat my questions for you to explain your opinion and you did not answer any one of them, only you repeat like a robot on the same rubbish I have already proved as lies.

Dear moderator, I think it would be best to close this thread as no discussion is taking place here.

The thread won't close but you can refrain from selling your lies.
Here's material for discussion;

Israel and weapons of mass destruction

Israel is widely believed to possess weapons of mass destruction, and to be one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).[1] The US Congress Office of Technology Assessment has recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared chemical warfare capabilities, and an offensive biological warfare program.[2] Officially Israel neither confirms nor denies possessing nuclear weapons.
Contents
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1 Nuclear weapons
2 Chemical weapons
3 Biological weapons
4 References
5 External links

[edit] Nuclear weapons
Main article: Nuclear weapons and Israel

It is believed that Israel had possessed an operational nuclear weapons capability by 1967, with the mass production of warheads occurring after the Six-Day War.[2] Although no official statistics exist, it has been estimated that Israel possesses from 75 to as many as 400 nuclear weapons, which are reported to include thermonuclear weapons in the megaton range.[3][4][5] Israel is also reported to possess a wide range of different systems, including neutron bombs, tactical nuclear weapons, and suitcase nukes.[6] Delivery mechanisms include Jericho intercontinental ballistic missiles, with a range of 11,500 km, and which are believed to provide an underground second-strike option.[7][8] Additionally, Israel is believed to have an offshore nuclear second-strike capability, using submarine launched nuclear-capable cruise missiles.[9] The Israeli government maintains a policy of deliberate ambiguity on whether it has nuclear weapons, saying only that it would not be the first to "introduce nuclear weapons in the Middle East."[10] Former International Atomic Energy Agency Director General Mohamed ElBaradei regarded Israel as a state possessing nuclear weapons.[11] Much of what is known about Israel's nuclear program comes from revelations in 1986 by Mordechai Vanunu, a technician at the Negev Nuclear Research Center in Dimona, who served an 18-year jail sentence as a result. Israel has not signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, but supports establishment of a Middle East Zone free of weapons of mass destruction.[12]
[edit] Chemical weapons

Israel has signed but not ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).[13] There are speculations that a chemical weapons program might be located at the Israel Institute for Biological Research (IIBR) in Ness Ziona.[14]

190 liters of dimethyl methylphosphonate, a CWC schedule 2 chemical used in the synthesis of Sarin nerve gas, was discovered in the cargo of El Al Flight 1862 after it crashed in 1992 en route to Tel Aviv. Israel insisted the material was non-toxic, was to have been used to test filters that protect against chemical weapons, and that it had been clearly listed on the cargo manifest in accordance with international regulations. The shipment was from a U.S. chemical plant to the IIBR under a U.S. Department of Commerce license.[15]

In 1993, the U.S. Congress Office of Technology Assessment WMD proliferation assessment recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared offensive chemical warfare capabilities.[2] Former US deputy assistant secretary of defense responsible for chemical and biological defense, Bill Richardson, said in 1998 "I have no doubt that Israel has worked on both chemical and biological offensive things for a long time ... There's no doubt they've had stuff for years."[16]
[edit] Biological weapons

Israel is believed to have developed an offensive biological warfare capability.[2] The US Congress Office of Technology Assessment records Israel as a country possessing a long-term, undeclared biological warfare program.[2] Israel is not a signatory to the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC).[17] It is assumed that the Israel Institute for Biological Research in Ness Ziona develops vaccines and antidotes for chemical and biological warfare.[18] It has not been possible to conclude whether Israel currently maintains an offensive biological weapons program: it is speculated that Israel's retains an active ability to produce and disseminate biological weapons.[19]
[edit] References

^ "Background Information, 2005 Review Conference of the Parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons". United Nations. Retrieved 2006-07-02.
^ a b c d e Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction: Assessing the Risks. U.S. Congress Office of Technology Assessment. August 1993. OTA-ISC-559. Retrieved 2008-12-09
^ http://www.csis.org/media/csis/pubs/090316_israelistrikeiran.pdf
^ Brower, Kenneth S., “A Propensity for Conflict: Potential Scenarios and Outcomes of War in the Middle East,” Intelligence Review, Special Report no. 14, (February 1997), 14-15.
^ "Nuclear Weapons: Who Has What at a Glance". Arms Control Association. Retrieved 2007-05-30.
^ Hersh, Seymour M. The Samson Option. New York: Random House, 1991. ISBN 0-394-57006-5 p.220
^ Plushnick-Masti, Ramit (2006-08-25). "Israel Buys 2 Nuclear-Capable Submarines". The Washington Post. Retrieved 2010-05-20.
^ http://www.scribd.com/doc/6088311/Missile-Survey-Ballistic-and-Cruise-Missiles-of-Foreign-Countries
^ Alon Ben-David (1 October 2009). "Israel seeks sixth Dolphin in light of Iranian 'threat'". Defence Weekly. Retrieved 2009-11-03.
^ Dawoud, Khaled (1999-12-02). "Redefining the bomb". Al-Ahram Weekly. Retrieved 2006-07-02.
^ Mohamed ElBaradei (27 July 2004). "Transcript of the Director General's Interview with Al-Ahram News". International Atomic Energy Agency. Retrieved 2007-06-03.
^ "43 nations to seek Middle East free of WMDs". San Francisco Chronicle. 2008-07-13. Retrieved 2008-07-13.[dead link]
^ United Nations Treaty Collection. Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on their Destruction. Accessed 14 January 2009.
^ Avner Cohen. "Israel and Chemical/Biological Weapons: History, Deterrence, and Arms Control". Retrieved 2010-04-27
^ "Israel says El Al crash chemical 'non-toxic'". BBC. 1998-10-02. Archived from the original on 2003-08-18. Retrieved 2006-07-02.
^ Jeff Stein (1998-12-02). "Debunking the "ethno-bomb"". Salon.com. Retrieved 2006-07-11.
^ "Membership of the Biological Weapons Convention". United Nations Office At Geneva. Retrieved 12 March 2011.
^ "Nes Ziyyona". GlobalSecurity.org. April 28, 2005. Retrieved 2007-02-11. "Israel is believed to have the capacity to produce chemical warfare agents, and probably has stocks of bombs, rockets, and artillery shells. Public reports that a mustard and nerve gas production facility was established in 1982 in the Dimona restricted area are apparently erroneous. Israel is also probably poised to rapidly produce biological weapons, though there are no public reports of currently active production effort or associated locations.…Israel's primary chemical and biological warfare facility is at Nes Ziyyona [Noss Ziona], near Tel Aviv. The Israeli Institute for Bio-Technology is believed to be the home of both offensive and defensive research."
^ Normark, Magnus; Anders Lindblad, Anders Norqvist, Björn Sandström, and Louise Waldenström (December 2005). "Israel and WMD: Incentives and Capabilities" (PDF). FOI. pp. pg. 38. Retrieved 2007-02-11. "Israel does not stockpile or produce BW in large-scale today. However, we assess that Israel has a breakout capability for biological weapons and also CW, i.e. the knowledge needed to implement theoretical knowledge into the practical management of production and deployment of CBW. The knowledge base would be the one that was built during the 1950s and 1960s where today’s advanced research can be used to upgrade potential BW and CW agents and their behaviour in the environment. We have not found any conclusive evidence that show that Israel’s offensive programs still remain active today."

[edit] External links

Israel Crosses the Threshold, National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 189, by Avner Cohen and William Burr, April 28, 2006 (originally published at Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, May/June 2006)
Bibliography of Israeli Nuclear Science Publications by Mark Gorwitz, June 2005
Israeli Nuclear Forces, 2002, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, September/October 2002
The Bomb That Never Is, by Avner Cohen, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, May/June 2000, Vol 56, No. 3 pp.22-23
Israel and the Bomb[1] (Columbia University press, 1998), including declassified documents.
Obsessive secrecy undermines democracy By Reuven Pedatzur Ha'aretz. Tuesday, August 8, 2000 -- Cohen published "Israel and the Bomb" in the United States, and a Hebrew translation of the book has appeared here. In the eyes of the defense establishment, Cohen has committed a double sin.
Fighting to preserve the tattered veil of secrecy By Ronen Bergman The publication of Dr. Avner Cohen's book and of the Vanunu trial transcripts set off alarm bells for the Defense Ministry's chief of security, who is striving to protect the traditional opacity regarding Israel's nuclear affairs.
Blast, from the past to the present By Yirmiyahu Yovel Ha'aretz. 28 July 2000 -- If, in the context of the peace agreements and talks with the United States, Israel were to confirm its nuclear capability - while committing itself to no nuclear testing and pledging to build its defense system on conventional weapons as in the past - maybe then it might achieve at least de facto recognition, if not international legitimacy, for its nuclear weaponry, to be used only as a "last resort" and a tool for safeguarding peace after Israel withdraws.
The Third Temple's Holy Of Holies: Israel's Nuclear Weapons Warner D. Farr, LTC, U.S. Army, September 1999
Israel: Plutonium Production The Risk Report Volume 2 Number 4 (July-August 1996).
Israel: Uranium Processing and Enrichment The Risk Report Volume 2 Number 4 (July-August 1996).
Israel The Nuclear Potential of Individual Countries Treaty on Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons Problems of Extension Appendix 2 Russian Federation Foreign Intelligence Service 6 April 1995
The Samson Option. Israel's Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy Seymour M Hersh, [New York: Random House, 1991]
 

The thread won't close but you can refrain from selling your lies.

Let me enlightened you how a discussion goes with other people than just with yourself.

I argue something, until you did not logically refute my claim, it is valid. If you argue and I ask you questions and ask for proofs and you cannot answer that or deliver the desired proofs, then your claims are nonsense.

And that is the situation right now: if you think I lie, bring proofs or rationale arguments to the contrary. Until then, you remain just and anti-Semite and a deceiver.
 
Let me enlightened you how a discussion goes with other people than just with yourself.

I argue something, until you did not logically refute my claim, it is valid. If you argue and I ask you questions and ask for proofs and you cannot answer that or deliver the desired proofs, then your claims are nonsense.

And that is the situation right now: if you think I lie, bring proofs or rationale arguments to the contrary. Until then, you remain just and anti-Semite and a deceiver.

That the israeli WMDs do not pose a threat, is a lie and your attempt to close the thread is a proof of that.
 

The thread won't close but you can refrain from selling your lies.
Here's material for discussion;

Israel and weapons of mass destruction

Israel is widely believed to possess weapons of mass destruction, and to be one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).[1] The US Congress Office of Technology Assessment has recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared chemical warfare capabilities, and an offensive biological warfare program.[2] Officially Israel neither confirms nor denies possessing nuclear weapons.
Contents
[hide]


1 Nuclear weapons
2 Chemical weapons
3 Biological weapons
4 References
5 External links

[edit] Nuclear weapons
Main article: Nuclear weapons and Israel

It is believed that Israel had possessed an operational nuclear weapons capability by 1967, with the mass production of warheads occurring after the Six-Day War.[2] Although no official statistics exist, it has been estimated that Israel possesses from 75 to as many as 400 nuclear weapons, which are reported to include thermonuclear weapons in the megaton range.[3][4][5] Israel is also reported to possess a wide range of different systems, including neutron bombs, tactical nuclear weapons, and suitcase nukes.[6] Delivery mechanisms include Jericho intercontinental ballistic missiles, with a range of 11,500 km, and which are believed to provide an underground second-strike option.[7][8] Additionally, Israel is believed to have an offshore nuclear second-strike capability, using submarine launched nuclear-capable cruise missiles.[9] The Israeli government maintains a policy of deliberate ambiguity on whether it has nuclear weapons, saying only that it would not be the first to "introduce nuclear weapons in the Middle East."[10] Former International Atomic Energy Agency Director General Mohamed ElBaradei regarded Israel as a state possessing nuclear weapons.[11] Much of what is known about Israel's nuclear program comes from revelations in 1986 by Mordechai Vanunu, a technician at the Negev Nuclear Research Center in Dimona, who served an 18-year jail sentence as a result. Israel has not signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, but supports establishment of a Middle East Zone free of weapons of mass destruction.[12]
[edit] Chemical weapons

Israel has signed but not ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).[13] There are speculations that a chemical weapons program might be located at the Israel Institute for Biological Research (IIBR) in Ness Ziona.[14]

190 liters of dimethyl methylphosphonate, a CWC schedule 2 chemical used in the synthesis of Sarin nerve gas, was discovered in the cargo of El Al Flight 1862 after it crashed in 1992 en route to Tel Aviv. Israel insisted the material was non-toxic, was to have been used to test filters that protect against chemical weapons, and that it had been clearly listed on the cargo manifest in accordance with international regulations. The shipment was from a U.S. chemical plant to the IIBR under a U.S. Department of Commerce license.[15]

In 1993, the U.S. Congress Office of Technology Assessment WMD proliferation assessment recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared offensive chemical warfare capabilities.[2] Former US deputy assistant secretary of defense responsible for chemical and biological defense, Bill Richardson, said in 1998 "I have no doubt that Israel has worked on both chemical and biological offensive things for a long time ... There's no doubt they've had stuff for years."[16]
[edit] Biological weapons

Israel is believed to have developed an offensive biological warfare capability.[2] The US Congress Office of Technology Assessment records Israel as a country possessing a long-term, undeclared biological warfare program.[2] Israel is not a signatory to the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC).[17] It is assumed that the Israel Institute for Biological Research in Ness Ziona develops vaccines and antidotes for chemical and biological warfare.[18] It has not been possible to conclude whether Israel currently maintains an offensive biological weapons program: it is speculated that Israel's retains an active ability to produce and disseminate biological weapons.[19]
[edit] References

^ "Background Information, 2005 Review Conference of the Parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons". United Nations. Retrieved 2006-07-02.
^ a b c d e Proliferation of Weapons of Mass Destruction: Assessing the Risks. U.S. Congress Office of Technology Assessment. August 1993. OTA-ISC-559. Retrieved 2008-12-09
^ http://www.csis.org/media/csis/pubs/090316_israelistrikeiran.pdf
^ Brower, Kenneth S., “A Propensity for Conflict: Potential Scenarios and Outcomes of War in the Middle East,” Intelligence Review, Special Report no. 14, (February 1997), 14-15.
^ "Nuclear Weapons: Who Has What at a Glance". Arms Control Association. Retrieved 2007-05-30.
^ Hersh, Seymour M. The Samson Option. New York: Random House, 1991. ISBN 0-394-57006-5 p.220
^ Plushnick-Masti, Ramit (2006-08-25). "Israel Buys 2 Nuclear-Capable Submarines". The Washington Post. Retrieved 2010-05-20.
^ Missile Survey: Ballistic and Cruise Missiles of Foreign Countries
^ Alon Ben-David (1 October 2009). "Israel seeks sixth Dolphin in light of Iranian 'threat'". Defence Weekly. Retrieved 2009-11-03.
^ Dawoud, Khaled (1999-12-02). "Redefining the bomb". Al-Ahram Weekly. Retrieved 2006-07-02.
^ Mohamed ElBaradei (27 July 2004). "Transcript of the Director General's Interview with Al-Ahram News". International Atomic Energy Agency. Retrieved 2007-06-03.
^ "43 nations to seek Middle East free of WMDs". San Francisco Chronicle. 2008-07-13. Retrieved 2008-07-13.[dead link]
^ United Nations Treaty Collection. Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on their Destruction. Accessed 14 January 2009.
^ Avner Cohen. "Israel and Chemical/Biological Weapons: History, Deterrence, and Arms Control". Retrieved 2010-04-27
^ "Israel says El Al crash chemical 'non-toxic'". BBC. 1998-10-02. Archived from the original on 2003-08-18. Retrieved 2006-07-02.
^ Jeff Stein (1998-12-02). "Debunking the "ethno-bomb"". Salon.com. Retrieved 2006-07-11.
^ "Membership of the Biological Weapons Convention". United Nations Office At Geneva. Retrieved 12 March 2011.
^ "Nes Ziyyona". GlobalSecurity.org. April 28, 2005. Retrieved 2007-02-11. "Israel is believed to have the capacity to produce chemical warfare agents, and probably has stocks of bombs, rockets, and artillery shells. Public reports that a mustard and nerve gas production facility was established in 1982 in the Dimona restricted area are apparently erroneous. Israel is also probably poised to rapidly produce biological weapons, though there are no public reports of currently active production effort or associated locations.…Israel's primary chemical and biological warfare facility is at Nes Ziyyona [Noss Ziona], near Tel Aviv. The Israeli Institute for Bio-Technology is believed to be the home of both offensive and defensive research."
^ Normark, Magnus; Anders Lindblad, Anders Norqvist, Björn Sandström, and Louise Waldenström (December 2005). "Israel and WMD: Incentives and Capabilities" (PDF). FOI. pp. pg. 38. Retrieved 2007-02-11. "Israel does not stockpile or produce BW in large-scale today. However, we assess that Israel has a breakout capability for biological weapons and also CW, i.e. the knowledge needed to implement theoretical knowledge into the practical management of production and deployment of CBW. The knowledge base would be the one that was built during the 1950s and 1960s where today’s advanced research can be used to upgrade potential BW and CW agents and their behaviour in the environment. We have not found any conclusive evidence that show that Israel’s offensive programs still remain active today."

[edit] External links

Israel Crosses the Threshold, National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 189, by Avner Cohen and William Burr, April 28, 2006 (originally published at Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, May/June 2006)
Bibliography of Israeli Nuclear Science Publications by Mark Gorwitz, June 2005
Israeli Nuclear Forces, 2002, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, September/October 2002
The Bomb That Never Is, by Avner Cohen, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, May/June 2000, Vol 56, No. 3 pp.22-23
Israel and the Bomb[1] (Columbia University press, 1998), including declassified documents.
Obsessive secrecy undermines democracy By Reuven Pedatzur Ha'aretz. Tuesday, August 8, 2000 -- Cohen published "Israel and the Bomb" in the United States, and a Hebrew translation of the book has appeared here. In the eyes of the defense establishment, Cohen has committed a double sin.
Fighting to preserve the tattered veil of secrecy By Ronen Bergman The publication of Dr. Avner Cohen's book and of the Vanunu trial transcripts set off alarm bells for the Defense Ministry's chief of security, who is striving to protect the traditional opacity regarding Israel's nuclear affairs.
Blast, from the past to the present By Yirmiyahu Yovel Ha'aretz. 28 July 2000 -- If, in the context of the peace agreements and talks with the United States, Israel were to confirm its nuclear capability - while committing itself to no nuclear testing and pledging to build its defense system on conventional weapons as in the past - maybe then it might achieve at least de facto recognition, if not international legitimacy, for its nuclear weaponry, to be used only as a "last resort" and a tool for safeguarding peace after Israel withdraws.
The Third Temple's Holy Of Holies: Israel's Nuclear Weapons Warner D. Farr, LTC, U.S. Army, September 1999
Israel: Plutonium Production The Risk Report Volume 2 Number 4 (July-August 1996).
Israel: Uranium Processing and Enrichment The Risk Report Volume 2 Number 4 (July-August 1996).
Israel The Nuclear Potential of Individual Countries Treaty on Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons Problems of Extension Appendix 2 Russian Federation Foreign Intelligence Service 6 April 1995
The Samson Option. Israel's Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy Seymour M Hersh, [New York: Random House, 1991]

OK, so? We all know now that you know how to do copy and paste on your computer. Is there any argument?

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That the israeli WMDs do not pose a threat, is a lie and your attempt to close the thread is a proof of that.

Why it is a lie? Because you say so?
 
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