Hypothetical war scenario between China and India

[Pakistani Fighter]

1967 was a good way to make up for it

details?

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

details?

Nathu La and Cho La clashes

World map from 1967 with China and India highlighted
Date 11–14 September 1967 (Nathu La)
1 October 1967 (Cho La)
Location
Nathu La and Cho La, on the border between China and the Kingdom of Sikkim
Result
Indian victory

• Ceasefire arranged to end Nathu La clashes
• Chinese forces withdraw from Cho La[1][2][3]

Belligerents

India

China
Commanders and leaders

President Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan
Prime Minister Indira Gandhi
General Paramasiva Prabhakar Kumaramangalam
(Chief of the Army Staff)

Lt. General Jagjit Singh Aurora[4]

Maj. General Sagat Singh[4]

Brigadier Rai Singh Yadav MVC
(2 Grenadiers)

Mao Zedong
(Chairman of the CPC/CMC)

Maj. General Wang Chenghan（Deputy commander of the Tibet Military District)）

Maj. General Yu Zhiquan
Units involved

Indian Army

People's Liberation Army
Casualties and losses
Indian claim:

• 88 killed
• 163 wounded

Chinese claim:

• 101 killed (65 in Nathu La, 36 in Cho La)

[5][6]
Indian claim:

• 340 killed
• 450 wounded

Chinese claim:

• 32 killed (32 in Nathu La, unknown number in Cho La)

[5][6]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathu_La_and_Cho_La_clashes

 

[SIPRA]

1967 was a good way to make up for it

Array Bhai: Kidhar thay?

 

[Diggy]

No one supported us in 1962 either, and China was in the thick of a huge famine, but we still beat the daylight out of you.

I hope they will apologize for that, why you guys had a famine ? had you closed wet markets in 62
The 62 war was lost because of wrong policies of Nehru and another poisonous delusional commie moron krishna menon who was unfortunately our defence minister, he infact proudly thought Non-alignment policy was his intellectual invention.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Array Bhai: Kidhar thay?

Mujhe beghar kar diya tha mod walo ney...Punjabi pride celebrate karne ke liye!!!

 

[ColonelSanders]

Yaar kuch nahi hoga to cricket, kabbadi hi khel lenge... Isme to kuch nahi chahiye..

So your country goes yo war And you plan on watching movies and playing cricket... Some warrior you are.

 

[SIPRA]

Mujhe beghar kar diya tha mod walo ney...Punjabi pride celebrate karne ke liye!!!

Theek hae. Ab ehtiaat karo.

So your country goes yo war And you plan on watching movies and playing cricket... Some warrior you are.

I proposed Bed Polo for him, if it ever happens.

......Punjabi pride celebrate karne ke liye!!!

Pride hath a fall.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Pir Sahib,

You have become TotallyGreen!

Looks like you are feeling the Fragrance of Gazwa e Hind now...

And yes, we need to bring back Civilian training like in the OldenDays... @SIPRA

I, however, fail to agree with you on the account of valiant India being more powerful than the Chinese... regarding, raping our PakWomen...yes... it is the dream of the good Indians of all hue...

Hindutva is just a Voice/Mouthpiece for the rest of the good Indians!

But then... Paks are Paks... The GreatParathaEmpire is still fertilizing Panipat... and now this TheGreatPajeetEmpire might be fertizling both land and sea... who knows...

But something has begun!

Mangus

Bhai, Indians have now full access to world top technologies. And Chinese doesn't have that. West is presenting India with technology in plate, insy phir bhi kam nai horaha.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

So your country goes yo war And you plan on watching movies and playing cricket... Some warrior you are.

I just replied for below remarks from your Pakistani brother

Well here is what I think will happen: (Arman malik):

1- China will start by launching a massive AI/Cyber attack on India's 3rd grade infrastructure. Within first 6-hours, most of indian civilian communication systems and essential infrastructure will stop working. Within 10 hours all Military communications will be dead.
2- Within first 6-hours, China will destroy all indian satellites.
3- Within first few minutes, China will launch 'Hypersonic' missiles at all Indian nuclear sites. Most of the indian nuclear sites will be destroyed. Those remaining will not be able to communicate.
4- Within first few minutes, China will launch 'Hypersonic' and other missiles to destroy most of indian storage facilities including fuel.
5- Within 24 hours, China will gain Air Superiority. Within one week, most of Indian Airforce will be destroyed.
6- Within 48 hours, all indian border military infrastructure will be destroyed.
7- PLA will then launch massive Ground and naval offensive. Within 48 hours, most of Northern india will be under the control of China. Within 7-days, New Delhi will be under the Chinese Control.
8- In Coordination with Pakistan, all J&K will be conquered by Pakistan along with Indian Punjab.
9- Chinese Naval forces will disrupt Indian Navy to the extent that it remains ineffective.

All in all, 70% of India will fall to China within 7 to 10 days.

_-----_+---------+

So we must be watching Bollywood movies or playing sport games and china will only fighting a war against us.....

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Bhai, Indians have now full access to world top technologies. And Chinese doesn't have that. West is presenting India with technology in plate, insy phir bhi kam nai horaha.

O Yaar,

The CombinedWest is trying for the past 70+ years... don't you remember CIA/Indian Operations in Tibet...

But looks like that the good Indians have now strong civil malitia too to capture/conquer Tibet from the Chinese!

Nazis in Nikerz marching, marching.....

 

[StormBreaker]

I would like to add up one important thing.

This is a fact in general.

Throughout the world,

1. There are weak and poor countries (Eg : somalia)
   
   
2. Then comes countries with limited Military power and economy, To defend against small scale proxies or constraints. (Eg : Nigeria, Sri Lanka)
   
   
3. Then comes countries that have vast trade relations, Quite an economy, Good military buildup, But they are in Development phase, the pace is slow. They have big militaries, Inventory of weapons, A fragile but functioning economies, Squeeze it and you can get some drops for procurement. They have average to no indigenization.They have relationship troubles with some countries. (Eg : Pakistan, Egypt, India)
4. Countries that have wealth, They always have the power to procure things they want, Economy on top. These countries generally are preferred by every vendor due to the “Cash in pockets”, Everyone wants them as customers. They are powerful but lack influence and face hurdles for coming out loud. (Eg : KSA, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar)
5. SuperPowers - Countries that have huge economy, Infrastructure is there, Development graph has no to least change, curve is flat and on top. They have local industries or excess means to buy weapons, Maintain Huge forces and influence over other countries. (EG : USA, Russia, China)

Now, Take this scenario.
China and India, A war happens, Why ? What is the reason ? What is the meaning of war ? What is the difference between war and battle ? Are the Conflicts we know as war, Are actually wars or battles or just ops ?

Is war Not categorized ?

In fact, Wars can be categorized into three Categories.

• Absolute War
• Instrumental War
• Agnostic Fighting

Absolute war is unrestricted and unregulated war,
Agonistic fighting is regulated according to norms,
and Instrumental war may or may not be restricted, according to considerations of expediency.

What The OP is considering here is Absolute War. Total Annihilation of either of the sides, But why ? Any Major Absolute War in the 21st century is directed upon the enemy’s economy and then on the Military Might. The spine of a country is Economy and To small extent, Military, But it varies from region to region where sometimes both are equally important. One can’t survive without the other.

For instance, Country such as KSA, Has Huge economy, Military Might is surprisingly not what such economy can actually support given the huge defence budget, (Military should be double or triple to what they are, Pakistan has 6 times smaller budget yet military is huge by multiple folds).

Coming back to total annihilation war between China And India, First question arises, “WHY ??”

What can lead to such disaster ? Such wars only happen if either of the country deems the destruction of the other is the ONLY key to survival. When did that happen the last time in the world ? Soviet Invasion ? Cold war ? WW2, WW1 ? Break everyone for survival ?

Fortunately, China and India doesn’t seem to share such thoughts mutually, Both parties know the consequences, India never openly comes out threatening China “Officially”.

China on the other hand, Knows, Any disturbance from any part if the world, Be it South China sea potential conflict, Conflict with India, Or any other state, Will lead to collapse of China’s economy, Export industry will be lost, Customers go elsewhere, Engine stalls then breaks, Take CoViD-19 as a Real Life and RealTime example, Look what has happened to the world, Would anyone want such to happen without preparing for backups ? Simple Answer is NO.

World will intervene in case of any conflict, the intervention would be Real and From the core. Prevention will be the ultimate solution unless one wants to introduce WW3 where USA backs India against China, Sides are made, Pakistan acts accordingly, Russia has to decide whether to part with or part ways.

Let me highlight another important Factor of Why A war wouldn’t happen Between India And China.

Simple, SuperPower and A country belonging to Point No.3 (refer to the table above) can’t fight, Doom for the latter, Economy breaks, The little might they gathered over years destroyed in a matter of week or even days, Feet cut, Vulnerable by the weakest.

As stated earlier,
Superpowers have enough cash to sign huge weapons deals for the lowest time period contracts ie, They can afford to pay cash upfront on spot, have cash to spare all the time for such huge deals. Their primary focus is not building up but maintaining what they have.

OTOH, Countries from Category 3, They spare money but with problems, Not easy to do that, Economic problems, Civil crises, Poverty, They all are the Limiting Factors. It takes these countries decades to build up some might that a super power can pay in a matter of 3-6 years and can gather a might more than these Cat3 countries. Cat 3 countries take decades, smallest of the deals take 3-5 years to materialize, Cash isn’t upfront, rather on installments, They allocate from defence budget every month just for something not so big.

SuperPowers also usually have local industries to manufacture weapons on urgent basis when needed, This helps in war.

So when Cat 3 countries fight against Super powers, Victory isn’t certain but stalemate has some chances while defeat is imminent.

To defeat a superpower, Nuclear is the way.

TLDS : India doesn’t stand a chance against the economic, Infrastructure and military might of China for even a week in a ‘TOTAL ANNIHILATION WAR’ unless Nuclear comes on the table to cool things down or worsen it.

@Mangus Ortus Novem @SIPRA @Slav Defence @WebMaster @HRK @Signalian @Blacklight @The Eagle @Dazzler @dbc @aliyusuf @jaibi @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Verve @RescueRanger @notorious_eagle

 

[ColonelSanders]

O Yaar,

The CombinedWest is trying for the past 70+ years... don't you remember CIA/Indian Operations in Tibet...

But looks like that the good Indians have now strong civil malitia too to capture/conquer Tibet from the Chinese!

Nazis in Nikerz marching, marching.....

These guys look like primary school rejects trying to invade that school.

 

[SIPRA]

O Yaar,

The CombinedWest is trying for the past 70+ years... don't you remember CIA/Indian Operations in Tibet...

But looks like that the good Indians have now strong civil malitia too to capture/conquer Tibet from the Chinese!

Nazis in Nikerz marching, marching.....

Bilkul, Paa Jee: West tau pichhlay 72 saal say in ki poochhalon ko kalaf laga raha hae; lekin yeh pochhalain uthnay ka naam he naheen laiteen.

I would like to add up one important thing.

This is a fact in general.

Throughout the world,

1. There are weak and poor countries (Eg : somalia)
   
   
2. Then comes countries with limited Military power and economy, To defend against small scale proxies or constraints. (Eg : Nigeria, Sri Lanka)
   
   
3. Then comes countries that have vast trade relations, Quite an economy, Good military buildup, But they are in Development phase, the pace is slow. They have big militaries, Inventory of weapons, A fragile but functioning economies, Squeeze it and you can get some drops for procurement. They have average to no indigenization.They have relationship troubles with some countries. (Eg : Pakistan, Egypt, India)
4. Countries that have wealth, They always have the power to procure things they want, Economy on top. These countries generally are preferred by every vendor due to the “Cash in pockets”, Everyone wants them as customers. They are powerful but lack influence and face hurdles for coming out loud. (Eg : KSA, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar)
5. SuperPowers - Countries that have huge economy, Infrastructure is there, Development graph has no to least change, curve is flat and on top. They have local industries or excess means to buy weapons, Maintain Huge forces and influence over other countries. (EG : USA, Russia, China)

Now, Take this scenario.
China and India, A war happens, Why ? What is the reason ? What is the meaning of war ? What is the difference between war and battle ? Are the Conflicts we know as war, Are actually wars or battles or just ops ?

Is war Not categorized ?

In fact, Wars can be categorized into three Categories.

• Absolute War
• Instrumental War
• Agnostic Fighting

Absolute war is unrestricted and unregulated war,
Agonistic fighting is regulated according to norms,
and Instrumental war may or may not be restricted, according to considerations of expediency.

What The OP is considering here is Absolute War. Total Annihilation of either of the sides, But why ? Any Major Absolute War in the 21st century is directed upon the enemy’s economy and then on the Military Might. The spine of a country is Economy and To small extent, Military, But it varies from region to region where sometimes both are equally important. One can’t survive without the other.

For instance, Country such as KSA, Has Huge economy, Military Might is surprisingly not what such economy can actually support given the huge defence budget, (Military should be double or triple to what they are, Pakistan has 6 times smaller budget yet military is huge by multiple folds).

Coming back to total annihilation war between China And India, First question arises, “WHY ??”

What can lead to such disaster ? Such wars only happen if either of the country deems the destruction of the other is the ONLY key to survival. When did that happen the last time in the world ? Soviet Invasion ? Cold war ? WW2, WW1 ? Break everyone for survival ?

Fortunately, China and India doesn’t seem to share such thoughts mutually, Both parties know the consequences, India never openly comes out threatening China “Officially”.

China on the other hand, Knows, Any disturbance from any part if the world, Be it South China sea potential conflict, Conflict with India, Or any other state, Will lead to collapse of China’s economy, Export industry will be lost, Customers go elsewhere, Engine stalls then breaks, Take CoViD-19 as a Real Life and RealTime example, Look what has happened to the world, Would anyone want such to happen without preparing for backups ? Simple Answer is NO.

World will intervene in case of any conflict, the intervention would be Real and From the core. Prevention will be the ultimate solution unless one wants to introduce WW3 where USA backs India against China, Sides are made, Pakistan acts accordingly, Russia has to decide whether to part with or part ways.

Let me highlight another important Factor of Why A war wouldn’t happen Between India And China.

Simple, SuperPower and A country belonging to Point No.3 (refer to the table above) can’t fight, Doom for the latter, Economy breaks, The little might they gathered over years destroyed in a matter of week or even days, Feet cut, Vulnerable by the weakest.

As stated earlier,
Superpowers have enough cash to sign huge weapons deals for the lowest time period contracts ie, They can afford to pay cash upfront on spot, have cash to spare all the time for such huge deals. Their primary focus is not building up but maintaining what they have.

OTOH, Countries from Category 3, They spare money but with problems, Not easy to do that, Economic problems, Civil crises, Poverty, They all are the Limiting Factors. It takes these countries decades to build up some might that a super power can pay in a matter of 3-6 years and can gather a might more than these Cat3 countries. Cat 3 countries take decades, smallest of the deals take 3-5 years to materialize, Cash isn’t upfront, rather on installments, They allocate from defence budget every month just for something not so big.

SuperPowers also usually have local industries to manufacture weapons on urgent basis when needed, This helps in war.

So when Cat 3 countries fight against Super powers, Victory isn’t certain but stalemate has some chances while defeat is imminent.

To defeat a superpower, Nuclear is the way.

@Mangus Ortus Novem @SIPRA @Slav Defence @WebMaster @HRK @Signalian @Blacklight @The Eagle @Dazzler @dbc @aliyusuf @jaibi @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Verve @RescueRanger @notorious_eagle

Yaar @StormBreaker: itni lambi, sawa gaz bhar ki, post, iss burhaapay main kaisay parhoon.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Without a proxy direct conflict between India and China is almost impossible due to difficult boundaries.

 

[StormBreaker]

Bilkul, Paa Jee: West tau pichhlay 72 saal say in ki poochhalon ko kalaf laga raha hae; lekin yeh pochhalain uthnay ka naam he naheen laiteen.



Yaar @StormBreaker: itni lambi, sawa gaz bhar ki, post, iss burhaapay main kaisay parhoon.

Chacha, Took me just half an hour, usually when i login to pdf sometime before azan, I don’t quit as I have nothing to do in the small time between. So did this small contribution.