Hundreds of Muslim workers fired after dispute over prayers

[Khan_patriot]

If they want, they can pray 100 times a day but there are life necessities too.
and as i said, It can be forgiven if theres something important you had to do in that time. If thats not the case, then well...

its probably right to question extreme views of muslims nowadays, no?

There is nothing extreme about wanting to pray five times, it is the bare minimum but I do agree with you that they could have accommodated it in some other manner

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Nice decision in the management. I have seen Muslim employees go out on Fridays, which I believe is completely fine.
But this is damn too much

 

[Jungibaaz]

If my employees did this, I'd fire them too, no doubt.

 

[nang2]

Meatpacking job isn't worth having anyway.

 

[Kaniska]

There is nothing extreme about wanting to pray five times, it is the bare minimum but I do agree with you that they could have accommodated it in some other manner

How about, you pray before coming to office or after finishing your work? Why do you want to waste office time?...Do how much prayer you want to do before or office time itself? Is it not workable for Muslims?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Meatpacking job isn't worth having anyway.

Well at least nobody is getting eaten by rats anymore. The Jungle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (fiction...never happened)

 

[DesiGuy]

@DesiGuy

i dont know what exactly you are loling about...since his post is completely off the mark.

Nice decision in the management. I have seen Muslim employees go out on Fridays, which I believe is completely fine.
But this is damn too much

don't know whats worse...being overly religious muslims...or being somalian.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

How about, you pray before coming to office or after finishing your work? Why do you want to waste office time?...Do how much prayer you want to do before or office time itself? Is it not workable for Muslims?

It takes perhaps 10-15 minutes to perform quick ablutions and pray (individually), which isn't really any more time than some employees would use up while taking smoke breaks. The issue here is more about the employees working with the employer to come up with a prayer break schedule that does not disrupt operations. Asking for large groups of employees to receive prayer breaks at the same time (assuming that is in fact what the disagreement was over) was quite clearly a bad idea.

I find it rather surprising that the situation escalated to the point that it did - perhaps the representatives of the company dealing with the workers were disrespectful and dismissive of the demands instead of explaining the repercussions in detail and asking the employees to work with management in developing a satisfactory prayer break schedule?

 

[Solomon2]

If my employees did this, I'd fire them too, no doubt.

Note that all the relevant facts were available quite early. It was only later that the story became big, when mainstream media decided to make a phony Muslims-are-being-victimized! story out of it by selectively omitting the important details.

I find it rather surprising that the situation escalated to the point that it did - perhaps the representatives of the company dealing with the workers were disrespectful -

Or perhaps CAIR put them up to it, in an attempt to establish a precedent that companies may only work by the grace of militant Muslims.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

It don't matter if I don't have a job, my religion is more important,

This is pretty much disturbing. Today in the name of religion they are asking for break in work, tomorrow in the name of religion it will asking for ifthar party, then may be only muslims should be allowed to work as non-muslims are kaffirs, then who knows what? This kind of medieval mentality of imposing or forcing religious ideas on others is disturbing. This is what I dont like about any religion . People with modern outlook try to get themselves rid of age old practices, but here people are more getting into it.
Religion is and should be kept behind your personal doors. As soon as you are out in public you cannot impose your views on others and if there are something in religion which is restricting the follower to mix with the public then either he should leave those practices in his home or dont leave home at all.

 

[nvKyleBrown]

Employees are suppose to allow for smoke break of 15 min to workers every 3-4 hours.
Generally after 4 hours a break of 15 minutes is also due. Not to mention a break for lunch is also there

Seems like the manager of organization did not know how to MANAGE the break process

The workers wanted to go out all at once. Management wanted to stagger things. Management *was* trying to manage the break process.

 

[scionoftheindus]

Isn't feeding their families more important?

Anyway it is actually necessary to pray 5 times a day? I have known some Muslims and they definitely did not pray 5 times a day.

You will hardly find Muslims even in India who pray 5 times a day..these rules were made when people had plenty of time ...remember Saudi is a desert area where tribes had plenty of time in their hands to do not just 5 prayers but even 10 prayers a day.

 

[Maravan]

They can file a case against the management according to the US law if their basic right is denied. If the company didn't violated the law, these people can go home and pray all day..

 

[PakSword]

Each prayer can but does not have to take that long. Zuhr fard will take 5 min. Another 5 minutes for the Sunnah. And 5 minutes for Asr, whose Sunnah you can skip. So in total 10 to 15 min, not difficult to manage during lunches and breaks.

It's not just prayers, you have to prepare yourself. Leaving your seat, going to ablution, praying and then coming back to start work where you left takes 15-20 mins at least.

 

[Kaniska]

It's not just prayers, you have to prepare yourself. Leaving your seat, going to ablution, praying and then coming back to start work where you left takes 15-20 mins at least.

Then it is better the person who wants to do this kind of activity should inform management before joining the employer that he will take 30 min break in each 2-3 hour so that he can pray to his God...Rather than protesting with employer, it is better to inform them and if they do not allow you to pray you can look for a job where these things are allowed..