Huge Turkish and HTS casualties in failed attack

[maithil]

I hate Turkish funded uighur terrorist , not ordinary uighur. In fact, the most famous Chinese actress is a uighur. You are trying to divert my point.





Assad, himself is Syrian, why would he killed ordinary Syrian for nothing? But terrorist who bend on destroying Syria and sell their blood to Turkish deserve to die by his hand. See how u try to avoid the point why turkey shield dostum, a proven killer of many pashtuns. If turkey is really a friend of Pakistan. Dostum shall be hanged by turkey.

But no, turkey and Erdogan loves him and treat him like a VIP. Do u really think Erdogan care about Pakistanis? You are the one that need to wake up.

Erdogan needs Pakistani market for his companies.

 

[Yankee-stani]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1232183136496185344

Turkophiles had to cut out Mimi and the moderator was sucky as usual again I don't really take Partisan Girl as that authentic source as she is pro Assad but what makes this Turkophiles think they are right all of them are biased trying to curry favor with people around the world interested in the conflicts there

 

[Zharang9]

Of course someone outside this issue and not a part of any group can only wish people will try to slow down the violence and accept no government or group is angel but the killing others is making things worse. If Turkey puts more into Syria, hundreds more lives to cost but they feel they have to do this and also to take some revenge for loss as well as achieve military objective.

This strategy is very effective. It's a type of guerrilla warfare. One group will fire towards their enemy than proceed to run towards women and children for cover. Some even make use of child soldiers.

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-edward-gallager-murder-trial-isis-20190619-story.html

Americans as a whole support the rebels yet commit atrocities against the women and children they swore to protect. I've seen the weaponisation of human rights, accusations of "killing your own people" used by the biggest abusers of human rights.

https://www.voanews.com/extremism-watch/analysts-uighur-jihadis-syria-could-pose-threat

Analysts are warning that the jihadi group Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP) in northwestern Syria could pose a danger to Syria’s volatile Idlib province,

Nobody is against Syrian but Turkish foolish venture in Syria.

We are no fool. Pls don't sing praise of Erdogan doing an invasion in Syria for the sake of humanity of Syria. Erdogan is doing for Turkey pan Islamic ambitions and more land grab for Turkish.

Terrorist in idlib must die. We all cheer for Syria army and Russian to crush them and United Syria once again.

Indeed Chinese are not against the common Syrians. They are the real victims of geopolitics. Syria should be united and their people given the final say on that matter but sadly they are not in a position to claim such rights.

With regards to those ISIS terrorists, they have an impact on China. Using child soldiers is low.

https://intelligencebriefs.com/isis...g-child-soldiers-from-uighur-muslim-minority/

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I hate Turkish funded uighur terrorist , not ordinary uighur. In fact, the most famous Chinese actress is a uighur. You are trying to divert my point.





Assad, himself is Syrian, why would he killed ordinary Syrian for nothing? But terrorist who bend on destroying Syria and sell their blood to Turkish deserve to die by his hand. See how u try to avoid the point why turkey shield dostum, a proven killer of many pashtuns. If turkey is really a friend of Pakistan. Dostum shall be hanged by turkey.

But no, turkey and Erdogan loves him and treat him like a VIP. Do u really think Erdogan care about Pakistanis? You are the one that need to wake up.

Turkey is the best ally of Pakistan, have always supporting Kashmir (no matter secular or conservative gov.) Our relationship goes back 1,000 years. So that should answer your question, let's move on from this.

Pretty much the whole Sunni Islamic world (85% of Muslim world) is aghast at the antics of Assad, his military, and Iranian proxies in Syria. They are massacring, raping, and brutalizing innocent people, including kids and women. There is no justification for that. It is the exact same repeat what these Iranian proxies and Najaf militias did in Western And Northern Iraq to Sunni Arabs, Turkmen, and Kurds.

You are going to have a very difficult time in convincing us, since we see with our very eyes and personal accounts what is happening in Syria. Refugees are streaming into Muslim countries from Syria, most of them are seeking shelter in Turkey.

This strategy is very effective. It's a type of guerrilla warfare. One group will fire towards their enemy than proceed to run towards women and children for cover. Some even make use of child soldiers.

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-edward-gallager-murder-trial-isis-20190619-story.html

Americans as a whole support the rebels yet commit atrocities against the women and children they swore to protect. I've seen the weaponisation of human rights, accusations of "killing your own people" used by the biggest abusers of human rights.

Indeed Chinese are not against the common Syrians. They are the real victims of geopolitics. Syria should be united and their people given the final say on that matter but sadly they are not in a position to claim such rights.

With regards to those ISIS terrorists, they have an impact on China. Using child soldiers is low.

https://intelligencebriefs.com/isis...g-child-soldiers-from-uighur-muslim-minority/

Daesh is an Israeli-US project. The stage was set to bring in agents from all over the West and train them in Israel, then the US dropped weapons, tanks, abandoned facilities in their hands.

Assad never faced any threat from Daesh, and Daesh fought against mainly only FSA in Syria. When the time was up, US ditched them for PKK, and Russia joined the terror financing and recruitment for PKK as well. KSA, UAE, Iran are all united behind PKK as well. We even have French and German Christians fighting their Crusades via PKK against Turkey.

If you look at the Middle East, Turkey is the only democratic and representative state in the region, all others are autocratic and suppress their people. Turkey offers an alternative model of independence and freedom for the Muslim world, coupled with Turkish military might and Sunni Islamic civilization, it has now become a symbol for Muslims all around the world.

From Palestine, Libya, Somalia, Tunisia, Qatar, Afghanistan, Pakistan, CARs, Southeast Asia we can see all eyes are on Turkey, which is the only Muslim nation to successfully pull itself out of defeat and demoralization from colonialism.

90% Sunni Syrian population deserves to have freedom to live their lives free of Shia sectarian death squads and Assad regime torture centers.

I hate Turkish funded uighur terrorist , not ordinary uighur. In fact, the most famous Chinese actress is a uighur. You are trying to divert my point.

It is not a good PR tactic. Muslim actors in India and Black actors in Hollywood did not stop racism and discrimination of their communities from the majority in their nations. Look today at the bloodbath against Muslims in Gujurat and New Delhi by Hindu radicals. Even Shahrukh Khan can't get a flat in Mumbai due to his religion.

I don't think Turkey is supporting ETIM, rather that is CIA and India. Recently one of their Twitter accounts was posting against Kashmir and against Afghan Taliban to discredit Pakistan. They employ agents from those countries to run US, Indian propaganda like they did in Tibet.

However like other Pakistanis, I also believe CIA is funding propaganda against China in Xinjiang and most of it is misinformation. That however is a different topic than Syria.

 

[Zharang9]

Daesh is an Israeli-US project. The stage was set to bring in agents from all over the West and train them in Israel, then the US dropped weapons, tanks, abandoned facilities in their hands.

Assad never faced any threat from Daesh, and Daesh fought against mainly only FSA in Syria. When the time was up, US ditched them for PKK, and Russia joined the terror financing and recruitment for PKK as well. KSA, UAE, Iran are all united behind PKK as well. We even have French and German Christians fighting their Crusades via PKK against Turkey.

If you look at the Middle East, Turkey is the only democratic and representative state in the region, all others are autocratic and suppress their people. Turkey offers an alternative model of independence and freedom for the Muslim world, coupled with Turkish military might and Sunni Islamic civilization, it has now become a symbol for Muslims all around the world.

From Palestine, Libya, Somalia, Tunisia, Qatar, Afghanistan, Pakistan, CARs, Southeast Asia we can see all eyes are on Turkey, which is the only Muslim nation to successfully pull itself out of defeat and demoralization from colonialism.

90% Sunni Syrian population deserves to have freedom to live their lives free of Shia sectarian death squads and Assad regime torture centers.

I really agree with the last line, Shia minorities deserve the same. Really hope that Shia and Sunni will put differences aside and unite as one. Right now opportunistic groups are exploiting tribal conflicts in the Middle East playing one group against another. The day the ME reconciles and unites is the day they can finally see peace.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I really agree with the last line, Shia minorities deserve the same. Really hope that Shia and Sunni will put differences aside and unite as one. Right now opportunistic groups are exploiting tribal conflicts in the Middle East playing one group against another. The day the ME reconciles and unites is the day they can finally see peace.

China should be playing peacemaker here and let Russia, US, and Iran fight amongst themselves. These three are burdened by their historical animosity of Turkey and fear of Muslim revival. If China orient themselves properly, they can gain maximum benefit for BRI, Straits of Bosphorus. And Canal Istanbul.

Erdogan is much more Pro-China than many Turkish nationalists in opposition, so China should try it's best to allay Turlish fears and promote peace like it did in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

When British and French left Syria, they showed the seeds of division. They divided the Ottoman province of Shaam (old name for Syria) into Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Western Iraq.

Jordan went under Hashemite Meccan ruler, and still is in their hands. Though it got flooded by a 60% Palestinian refugee population and its economy is dependent on foreigners now.

Lebanon was divided to be a Christian majority Arab nation, but today it is majority Shia Muslim.

Syria suffered a coup by Alawite European funded and supported military junta, and Syrian Sunni majority lost right to rule themselves for two generations.

Iraq was doing well under Saddam, but post invasion fell under Shia death squads and Iranian proxies.

Palestine was invaded and annexed by Jewish terrorists and in turn Israel was made due to British and American help.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Turkey is the best ally of Pakistan, have always supporting Kashmir (no matter secular or conservative gov.) Our relationship goes back 1,000 years. So that should answer your question, let's move on from this.

Pretty much the whole Sunni Islamic world (85% of Muslim world) is aghast at the antics of Assad, his military, and Iranian proxies in Syria. They are massacring, raping, and brutalizing innocent people, including kids and women. There is no justification for that. It is the exact same repeat what these Iranian proxies and Najaf militias did in Western And Northern Iraq to Sunni Arabs, Turkmen, and Kurds.

You are going to have a very difficult time in convincing us, since we see with our very eyes and personal accounts what is happening in Syria. Refugees are streaming into Muslim countries from Syria, most of them are seeking shelter in Turkey.



Daesh is an Israeli-US project. The stage was set to bring in agents from all over the West and train them in Israel, then the US dropped weapons, tanks, abandoned facilities in their hands.

Assad never faced any threat from Daesh, and Daesh fought against mainly only FSA in Syria. When the time was up, US ditched them for PKK, and Russia joined the terror financing and recruitment for PKK as well. KSA, UAE, Iran are all united behind PKK as well. We even have French and German Christians fighting their Crusades via PKK against Turkey.

If you look at the Middle East, Turkey is the only democratic and representative state in the region, all others are autocratic and suppress their people. Turkey offers an alternative model of independence and freedom for the Muslim world, coupled with Turkish military might and Sunni Islamic civilization, it has now become a symbol for Muslims all around the world.

From Palestine, Libya, Somalia, Tunisia, Qatar, Afghanistan, Pakistan, CARs, Southeast Asia we can see all eyes are on Turkey, which is the only Muslim nation to successfully pull itself out of defeat and demoralization from colonialism.

90% Sunni Syrian population deserves to have freedom to live their lives free of Shia sectarian death squads and Assad regime torture centers.



It is not a good PR tactic. Muslim actors in India and Black actors in Hollywood did not stop racism and discrimination of their communities from the majority in their nations. Look today at the bloodbath against Muslims in Gujurat and New Delhi by Hindu radicals. Even Shahrukh Khan can't get a flat in Mumbai due to his religion.

I don't think Turkey is supporting ETIM, rather that is CIA and India. Recently one of their Twitter accounts was posting against Kashmir and against Afghan Taliban to discredit Pakistan. They employ agents from those countries to run US, Indian propaganda like they did in Tibet.

However like other Pakistanis, I also believe CIA is funding propaganda against China in Xinjiang and most of it is misinformation. That however is a different topic than Syria.

Rape is barely used as a public tool of punishment in the middle east due to the heavy taboo on sex and the shame associated with sex. To come with the story that Shia militias in Iraq raped women I can say you're a retard, they kill but they do not rape.

Your entire post is filled with Shia Sunni, you speak as if you're an expert on these countries. Focus on Pakistan instead, too many errors in your posts, you do not know enough about these countries.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I really agree with the last line, Shia minorities deserve the same. Really hope that Shia and Sunni will put differences aside and unite as one. Right now opportunistic groups are exploiting tribal conflicts in the Middle East playing one group against another. The day the ME reconciles and unites is the day they can finally see peace.

I think that would be greatly benefit the region the problem is more so not religious differences between Shia and Sunnis the issue is the regional powers have no interests in doing that Israel has benefited from Turkey incursion into Syria they now got Iran Arab World and Russia more focused on countering the Turks would not Israel love this they get easy disraction this is why Tayyip "the watermellon seller" has been unwilling or willing agent of chaos since the early 2010s for Israel

China should be playing peacemaker here and let Russia, US, and Iran fight amongst themselves. These three are burdened by their historical animosity of Turkey and fear of Muslim revival. If China orient themselves properly, they can gain maximum benefit for BRI, Straits of Bosphorus. And Canal Istanbul.

Erdogan is much more Pro-China than many Turkish nationalists in opposition, so China should try it's best to allay Turlish fears and promote peace like it did in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

When British and French left Syria, they showed the seeds of division. They divided the Ottoman province of Shaam (old name for Syria) into Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Western Iraq.

Jordan went under Hashemite Meccan ruler, and still is in their hands. Though it got flooded by a 60% Palestinian refugee population and its economy is dependent on foreigners now.

Lebanon was divided to be a Christian majority Arab nation, but today it is majority Shia Muslim.

Syria suffered a coup by Alawite European funded and supported military junta, and Syrian Sunni majority lost right to rule themselves for two generations.

Iraq was doing well under Saddam, but post invasion fell under Shia death squads and Iranian proxies.

Palestine was invaded and annexed by Jewish terrorists and in turn Israel was made due to British and American help.

I would not say Erdogan is pro China or pro Russia he is just opputunistic politician trying to curry favor in the region noticed why he is talking nice about them American Patriots systems while just a few months back was talking goo goo gaga about the S-400 so far I agree Iran has not done great in the region also but if you want peace in Syria there needs to be cordial heads Assad for better or worse is the the one running most of the country Turkey would be smart just to cut deal leave Damascus alone and focus on rebuilding than then throwing wrenches like a monkey at a problem then having to be boxed in by the Russians

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Rape is barely used as a public tool of punishment in the middle east due to the heavy taboo on sex and the shame associated with sex. To come with the story that Shia militias in Iraq raped women I can say you're a retard, they kill but they do not rape.

Your entire post is filled with Shia Sunni, you speak as if you're an expert on these countries. Focus on Pakistan instead, too many errors in your posts, you do not know enough about these countries.

So you are telling me there were no rape or any sexual violence when your Shia regime took back Fallujah from Sunni Arab tribes?

Assad regime and Iranian proxies regularly use rape as a tool of violence against Sunnis of Syria (Arabs, Turkmen, and Kurds,) and you can see the same sentiment here on this forum from their supporters.

They are all terrorists after all, why does great mu'mineen of Qom and Najaf care for Takfiri hearteater Sunnis? All animals Yazid need to be put to the sword, women and children and all. This is the rhetoric, I am even hearing it from Russian, American, and Chinese Non-Muslims here.

I am sad to see Pakistanis brainwashed by Liwa Zanabiyoun and Afghans of Liwa Fatimayoun engaging in this slaughter of Syrians. Shame. Shame on Qasem Solemani and his ilk.

Silent War: How Rape Became a Weapon in Syria
Syrian women share personal testimonies of rape by regime soldiers.

https://www.aljazeera.com/programme...nt-war-rape-weapon-syria-180611071447939.html

 

[Itachi]

So you are telling me there were no rape or any sexual violence when your Shia regime took back Fallujah from Sunni Arab tribes?

Assad regime and Iranian proxies regularly use rape as a tool of violence against Sunnis of Syria (Arabs, Turkmen, and Kurds,) and you can see the same sentiment here on this forum from their supporters.

They are all terrorists after all, why does great mu'mineen of Qom and Najaf care for Takfiri hearteater Sunnis? All animals Yazid need to be put to the sword, women and children and all. This is the rhetoric, I am even hearing it from Russian, American, and Chinese Non-Muslims here.

I am sad to see Pakistanis brainwashed by Liwa Zanabiyoun and Afghans of Liwa Fatimayoun engaging in this slaughter of Syrians. Shame. Shame on Qasem Solemani and his ilk.

Silent War: How Rape Became a Weapon in Syria
Syrian women share personal testimonies of rape by regime soldiers.

https://www.aljazeera.com/programme...nt-war-rape-weapon-syria-180611071447939.html

I used to be partial on the Syrian conflict due to the US led intervention and Assads behavior and such but this is too much...

Assad needs to be toppled....I also had more positive view of Iran but they need to go also. Like you and others mentioned, Iran is as bad as the US for stirring up conflict in the Muslim world.

KSA, the Iranian Regime & US/Western neo-colonial/imperialist motives are no different....they might be people of different religions/sects but in the end, they're all hurting the common man and woman in their respective countries and abroad.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I used to be partial on the Syrian conflict due to the US led intervention and Assads behavior and such but this is too much...

Assad needs to be toppled....I also had more positive view of Iran but they need to go also. Like you and others mentioned, Iran is as bad as the US for stirring up conflict in the Muslim world.

KSA, the Iranian Regime & US/Western neo-colonial/imperialist motives are no different....they might be people of different religions/sects but in the end, they're all hurting the common man and woman in their respective countries and abroad.

Turkey,Iran,KSA and practically all other Muslim Regional Power have no common interests in the common Muslim person they are all in this for their own leaders "glory" at end of the day, but toppling regimes wont do any good it will just lead to more chaos and more people fleeing and dying

 

[shah_123]

The millions of Syrians you are referring to, fled Syria, was due to the Zionist-American led creation, arming, guidance through clandestine means via the CIA's covert connections with Wahhabi-Salafi elites of Arabia, Qatar, Emirates and Bahrain. This nonsense that Baathists of the broken n battered Saddam squads, were the ones who took allied with ISIS, is yet another crumb of evidence how Western Media spins it's lies.

Syrian Christians, Iraqi Christians, Syrian and Iraqi Sunnis as well as other minorities were specifically targeted to force their loyalty or prevent them from spying on the Wahhabi-Salafi led terrorist groups which proliferated the lands of Iraq and Syria. The once authentic Syrian revolt against Assad Regime, was quickly usurped and suffocated by Wahhabi-Salafi terrorist groups. To the point that today there is no authentic representation of Sunni Syrians, rather we are left with kurds that are specifically by israel and do it form the nucleus of the majority Sunni-Syrian population. Whatever is remains after Kurds, are the Wahhabi-Salafi terrorist groups which are supported by the elites of GCC.

Millions of Syrians did flee their country, when they saw how the very people who claimed to be fighting Assad Regime, would instead rape their women, put guns in the hands of their children, use them as human shields and terrorize them with forced subjugation.

Not all of us Muslims are fooled by zionist-western web of deception. Not all of us Muslims are deceived by the Wahhabi-Salafi Terrorists, or Kurdish-israel murderers, or Turkish military invasion to create another Ottoman Kingdom, or Iranian propaganda to spread it's greater Persian Empire.

I specifically target and lock on to the Saudi, Emirati, Qatari, Turkic, Kuwaiti, Egyptian and Bahraini regimes because it is these jackals who supposedly are leaders of the 2 billion Sunni Muslims on this planet. And man how they have proven to be impotent, inept, pathetic and pitiful j@ck@$$e$ with failure, after failure, after failure. The most pathetic of their failures has been, where they actually ally themselves with Western Powers, failing miserably to realize that these Western Powers are in reality, owned, controlled and dominated by zionist-swines, who further arm, inflate, power their illegal state, israel.

And one more thing .... NONE of your so-called noble, benevolent and all righteous regimes of Saudis, Qataris, Emiratis, Turkics, Bahrainis, Iranians nor Egyptians would ever dare attack israel for their brutality and genocide of the Palestinians. Similarly, none of these regimes would lift a finger when israelis demolish Masjid Al-Aqsa and Qubrat-ul-Sakhra. This talk of Turkey being the champions of Muslims, killed in the thousands by Assad the dictator, is for lack of a better word, it's a lame apology for being a Muslim country.

wait wait, let's clear up few things:
whether it's Zionist-American lead or Orthodox Christian-Russian lead; both can go to HELL and along with them house of Saud+ other lap dogs of west/russia.

 

[Itachi]

Turkey,Iran,KSA and practically all other Muslim Regional Power have no common interests in common Muslim person they are all in this for their own leaders "glory" at end of the day, but toppling regimes wont do any good it will just lead to more chaos and more people fleeing and dying

You're right...toppling more regimes would add more chaos which would only benefit the Zionists...but since we're already at this point...might as well topple Assad and hope for a better Syria.

KSA & Iran play their little games until they turn into another Syria....we, Pakistanis, should prepare ourselves and the nation for what is to come and secure ourselves against it.

My opinion on Turkey is neutral.

 

[Yankee-stani]

You're right...toppling more regimes would add more chaos which would only benefit the Zionists...but since we're already at this point...might as well topple Assad and hope for a better Syria.

KSA & Iran play their little games until they turn into another Syria....we, Pakistanis, should prepare ourselves and the nation for what is to come and secure ourselves against it.

My opinion on Turkey is neutral.

Toppling Assad would be "Israel" biggest wish tbh, Not saying I like the man in charge but Israel is already taking advantage of the spilts caused in the Syrian crisis starting in the 2010s first they got Turkey ditched by the US for the Kurds now Kurds get ditched, Iran-Turkey ties have been up and down and cordial,KSA-Turkey ties were good cause they were supporting the FSA millitants tho spilt cause Turkey got bailed out by Qatar, and Qatar being close to Iran no goodie so KSA-Turkey ties bad now my point is and I argue a lot is please dont take sides in this mess Pakistanis no one is clean in Syria,Syrians are suffering regardless who has boots in the ground, now back to Assad being thrown out not likely happening I see Erdogan getting boxed in by the Russians and forced to prevent a Vietnam style debacle may have to tone down and pull some troops out again like I said before most large Muslim regional powers dont care about the common Syrian or Muslim but using them for geo-political purposes I say better for a cordial un easy peace than easy terrible war which Israel benefits

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I used to be partial on the Syrian conflict due to the US led intervention and Assads behavior and such but this is too much...

Assad needs to be toppled....I also had more positive view of Iran but they need to go also. Like you and others mentioned, Iran is as bad as the US for stirring up conflict in the Muslim world.

KSA, the Iranian Regime & US/Western neo-colonial/imperialist motives are no different....they might be people of different religions/sects but in the end, they're all hurting the common man and woman in their respective countries and abroad.

Iranians tried to create sectarian conflicts in Pakistan, but failed due to the strong action of the state and the love, unity Sunnis and Shias in Pakistan have with each other. All they could do was steal away some few pilgrims from Karbala, Najaf, and Qom for proxies in Syria.

Shia Azerbaijan was abandoned by them in favor of Christian Armenia to use against Turkey, but even so they only created a bigger mess in their own country with their large Azeri minority.

Here you have Turkey, where Muslims, Sunnis, Shias, Christians, and Alevis live in peace. Can anyone point any time in Turkey's modern history when there were religious tensions?

Turkey is the model for an Islamic state based on unity between East and West, representing the strength of both, and a society which has moved beyond sectarianism. Now with Erdogan, Turkey has fully embraced its Muslim history as well. Anyone who studies modern Turkish identity has no choice but to admit its strength.

So strong was/is that identity that Europeans from UK, France, Germany, Balkans were/are ditching their culture, religion, civilization to get aboard the Turkish project. In fact the British called this phenomena among their intelligentsia, "Turning Turk."

Pakistan, Arabs, and other nations should be moving forward in this direction to create a strong, unified state which is comfortable with both modernity, Sufism, and its Muslim history.