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This brother speaks as of his opinion is law. Fissapointed by his lack of flexibility and his myopic way of seeing complex issue here...smh
Why should there be disappointment this is a free exchange fourm unless you are troll I respect you as a fellow Pakistani brother despite disagreements on certain issues and policies it's a fourm don't make a big deal over it
 
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No lie detected!!!

90-99% of all national decisions are made out of cold strategic calculation. Religion is the cover,but strategic national objective/interests is the bottom line.
Neither party is muslim. Its just nationalistic and political garbage. I say go to hell to both parties fighting brothers with brothers over land and political power.

Neither is Muslim. I stay away. They can go to hell.
 
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Iranians tried to create sectarian conflicts in Pakistan, but failed due to the strong action of the state and the love, unity Sunnis and Shias in Pakistan have with each other. All they could do was steal away some few pilgrims from Karbala, Najaf, and Qom for proxies in Syria.

Shia Azerbaijan was abandoned by them in favor of Christian Armenia to use against Turkey, but even so they only created a bigger mess in their own country with their large Azeri minority.

Here you have Turkey, where Muslims, Sunnis, Shias, Christians, and Alevis live in peace. Can anyone point any time in Turkey's modern history when there were religious tensions?

Turkey is the model for an Islamic state based on unity between East and West, representing the strength of both, and a society which has moved beyond sectarianism. Now with Erdogan, Turkey has fully embraced its Muslim history as well. Anyone who studies modern Turkish identity has no choice but to admit its strength.

So strong was/is that identity that Europeans from UK, France, Germany, Balkans were/are ditching their culture, religion, civilization to get aboard the Turkish project. In fact the British called this phenomena among their intelligentsia, "Turning Turk."

Pakistan, Arabs, and other nations should be moving forward in this direction to create a strong, unified state which is comfortable with both modernity, Sufism, and its Muslim history.

Iran did support Shia Azerbaijan in the early 90s they tried to bridge the gap between Yerevan and Baku but guess what who f..cked it up Yeltsin you see after the post Soviet collapse 3 countries tried expanding influence Turkey,Iran and Pakistan,Iran brokered a agreement in 1992 to resolve the Conflict in Nagaro-Karabakh but guess what happen a mysterious helicopter crash occured killing Azerbaijani and Armenian deal makers the Russians at that time did not want Iranian influence in the Caucusus region despite The Persian Empire having sway there until the early 1800s @Philosopher. @zartosht


I wonder if Iranians and their allies will condemn their Indian ally's open slaughter and mob violence against Muslims in New Delhi.

Such hypocrites. "Islamic" Republic...

Is Pakistan a "Islamic Republic" when its run by the military that preserved British customs and fifth column Brown Sahibs @Old School

Besides I see a decent sized of people on PDF who see it as a internal issue of India and what is Turkey doing nothing

No lie detected!!!

90-99% of all national decisions are made out of cold strategic calculation. Religion is the cover,but strategic national objective/interests is the bottom line.

Turkey,Iran and KSA are all in for national interest it's just Iran just plays the game smarter Turkey sorta does not watermelon seller does not help their case
 
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Iran did support Shia Azerbaijan in the early 90s they tried to bridge the gap between Yerevan and Baku but guess what who f..cked it up Yeltsin you see after the post Soviet collapse 3 countries tried expanding influence Turkey,Iran and Pakistan,Iran brokered a agreement in 1992 to resolve the Conflict in Nagaro-Karabakh but guess what happen a mysterious helicopter crash occured killing Azerbaijani and Armenian deal makers the Russians at that time did not want Iranian influence in the Caucusus region despite The Persian Empiee having sway there until the early 1800s @Philosopher. @zartosht



Is Pakistan a "Islamic Republic" when its rin by the military that preserved British customs and fifth column Brown Sahibs @Old School

Besides I see a decent sized of people on PDF who see it as a internal issue of India and what is Turkey doing nothing



Turkey,Iran and KSA are all in for national interest it's just Iran just plays the game smarter Turkey sorta does not watermelon seller does not help their case

You didn't answer my question, why does Iran support India on Kashmir?

'Islamic' Republic of Iran. I wonder if any Iranians will comment on the above video, but they won't.
 
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You didn't answer my question, why does Iran support India on Kashmir?

Tell me which country in the world supports us on "Kashmir" and no not just statements or arms for PAF exactly none all countries that are "allied" with Pakistan only pay lip service for Kashmir at this point,and what has Pakistan done for the Kashmiris until IK came into power no one did Mushy cucked out,Nawaz/Zardari too busy looting no attention
 
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I wonder if Iranians and their allies will condemn their Indian ally's open slaughter and mob violence against Muslims in New Delhi.

Such hypocrites. "Islamic" Republic...
I wonder if you will bark at china for its treatment Uighur hypocrite also you want iran to condemn india which is your enemy but you don't ask iran to condemn china because they are your allies hypocrite.

You didn't answer my question, why does Iran support India on Kashmir?

'Islamic' Republic of Iran. I wonder if any Iranians will comment on the above video, but they won't.
Iran have nothing to do with your indian conflict but barking Islamist dogs wabt to bring religion to the conflict so they can rally the muslims against india but in reality most of the muslims have good relations with india just how iranian use religious ideology against america your ally you hypocrite Islamist clown.
 
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At this point this just back and forth a Pakistani OP a while back recently said it on the lines that should resonate with the " silent majority" on this fourm and probably in real life we dont hear the real Syrian voices its always filtered out by third parties be it the Turks,Russians,Iranians,Damascus regime,Israelis,Yankee etc so we dont get the real story on PDF I have not seen one SYRIAN here yet I see random Turks,Iranians,Pakistanis some living there many living in comfy lives and careers in the west with audacity to argue for the Syrians,I have long said all the parties in the conflicts have their own interests over the Syrians and as a realist I think the best solution is wind up the conflict enough proxy wars keep the shaky status quo un easy peace than a easy gruesome war
 
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Iran did support Shia Azerbaijan in the early 90s they tried to bridge the gap between Yerevan and Baku but guess what who f..cked it up Yeltsin you see after the post Soviet collapse 3 countries tried expanding influence Turkey,Iran and Pakistan,Iran brokered a agreement in 1992 to resolve the Conflict in Nagaro-Karabakh but guess what happen a mysterious helicopter crash occured killing Azerbaijani and Armenian deal makers the Russians at that time did not want Iranian influence in the Caucusus region despite The Persian Empiee having sway there until the early 1800s @Philosopher. @zartosht



Is Pakistan a "Islamic Republic" when its rin by the military that preserved British customs and fifth column Brown Sahibs @Old School

Besides I see a decent sized of people on PDF who see it as a internal issue of India and what is Turkey doing nothing



Turkey,Iran and KSA are all in for national interest it's just Iran just plays the game smarter Turkey sorta does not watermelon seller does not help their case
Note these scums always say iran supported Armenia but these the same animal if you ask them would you support the pashtuns who claim Pakistani territory just because you belong to the same religion their answer would be of course not then why you want iran to support the fake artificial republic of stalinbayjan(nice persian name) when they were barking at iran by claiming iranian territory even though they can't win against Armenia?! Lol
 
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Note these scums always say iran supported Armenia but these the same animal if you ask them would you support the pashtuns who claim Pakistani territory just because you belong to the same religion their answer would be of course not then why you want iran to support the fake artificial republic of stalinbayjan(nice persian name) when they were barking at iran by claiming iranian territory even though they can't win against Armenia?! Lol

Hey Bud just cause we may agree on Syria,the Pasthuns are mostly pro Pakistani on our side of the border anyways the point I am saying Iran has had issues with Baku for several reasons being to close to Israel buying Israeli weapons putting Israeli lookouts in Irans nose how is that for a Muslim neighbor

*PS I think Pakistan is kinda retarded for not having ties with Armenia despite the myth of we wuz breaking the USSR resonates a lot with Pakistanis

Besides what's a pro Russian puppet state small irrelevant on the stage harms us
 
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Hey Bud just cause we may agree on Syria,the Pasthuns are mostly pro Pakistani on our side of the border anyways the point I am saying Iran has had issues with Baku for several reasons being to close to Israel buying Israeli weapons putting Israeli lookouts in Irans nose how is that for a Muslim neighbor
Yes exactly these animals bark about iran is not islamic because of Armenia while they act dead about the aliev gang relation with the zionists also about turkey being a major part of the crusader NATO as for pashtuns I am speaking and giving example if Pakistanis would support afghan regime that claim pakistani land if that so then why they want iran to side with the fake stalin created republic which claim iranian lands?!.
 
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hese the same animal if you ask them would you support the pashtuns who claim Pakistani territory

Reported. Your anti-Pakistan BS has no currency here.

Tell me which country in the world supports us on "Kashmir" and no not just statements or arms for PAF exactly none all countries that are "allied" with Pakistan only pay lip service for Kashmir at this point,and what has Pakistan done for the Kashmiris until IK came into power no one did Mushy cucked out,Nawaz/Zardari too busy looting no attention

Turkey and Malaysia took economic damage for their stance on Kashmir, but that is not enough for you.

Iran is funding sectarian proxies in Pakistan, giving free pass to terrorists and Iranian spies, supporting anti-Pakistan proxies in Afghanistan, brainwashing our citizens for nefarious purposes in Syria, and engaging in sectarian warfare in Iraq and Syria.

I have not seen you say anything against Iran, even once. It is a shame, because you are running around the whole forum insulting Turkey and Erdogan.

Is any Iranian or their supporters is brave enough to comment on the ongoing violence against Muslims in New Delhi and Gujurat? The mob lynchings, dragging naked bodies of Muslims through the streets, breaking into Muslim homes, and the video of arson and desecrating masajid, I am all ears.

probably in real life we dont hear the real Syrian voices

You don't want to hear what kind of curses Syrians have for your beloved Iran.

You live in the US, you can easily seek out Syrians near you and ask them. It won't be pretty.

For that note, even Pakistani and Afghan Shias are starting to have a negative opinion of Iran due to sectarian policies.
 
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Reported. Your anti-Pakistan BS has no currency here.



Turkey and Malaysia took economic damage for their stance on Kashmir, but that is not enough for you.

Iran is funding sectarian proxies in Pakistan, giving free pass to terrorists and Iranian spies, supporting anti-Pakistan proxies in Afghanistan, brainwashing our citizens for nefarious purposes in Syria, and engaging in sectarian warfare in Iraq and Syria.

I have not seen you say anything against Iran, even once. It is a shame, because you are running around the whole forum insulting Turkey and Erdogan.

Is any Iranian or their supporters is brave enough to comment on the ongoing violence against Muslims in New Delhi and Gujurat? The mob lynchings, dragging naked bodies of Muslims through the streets, breaking into Muslim homes, and the video of arson and desecrating masajid, I am all ears.



You don't want to hear what kind of curses Syrians have for your beloved Iran.

You live in the US, you can easily seek out Syrians near you and ask them. It won't be pretty.

For that note, even Pakistani and Afghan Shias are starting to have a negative opinion of Iran due to sectarian policies.
Nice try to filthy Islamist clown or didn't say anything anti pakistan I said would you support Afghanistan if an afghan regime claim pakistani territory the same goes with you barking dogs his you want the Iranians to support the fake republic of alievbayjan which they bark at iran and have israeli agent operate against iran from their territories?!
 
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