Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

[Goritoes]

Uighur Muslims are getting exterminated. The Pakistani government cannot have a say about it yet....

Just as Pakistan has no say in killings of Afghans, Iraqi's , Syrians , Palestinians and world's silence over Kashmir for decades, yes but Pakistan as always must shoot themselves in the foot by falling for Lies against the only country that helped Pakistan in the times of need. Why UK Pakistani's are so against Chinese and so easily fall for Propaganda, you guys seems to be doing good in UK, well educated and yet so gullible why?

 

[Raider 21]

Just as Pakistan has no say in killings of Afghans, Iraqi's , Syrians , Palestinians and world's silence over Kashmir for decades, yes but Pakistan as always must shoot themselves in the foot by falling for Lies against the only country that helped Pakistan in the times of need. Why UK Pakistani's are so against Chinese and so easily fall for Propaganda, you guys seems to be doing good in UK, well educated and yet so gullible why?

I live in Canada. We were given cultural training for deployments to China to not question or discuss about Uighurs. A little bit of research and some colleagues who happen to be Chinese Muslims, that's where we'd understood that mentioning Uighurs is a sensitive issue.

 

[Clutch]

Uighur Muslims are getting exterminated. The Pakistani government cannot have a say about it yet....

BS... Prove it. It's the same Western manufactured propaganda as with Iraq's WMDs
...

Did they find the Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction???.... Only the feable minded believe such BS.

 

[LeGenD]

Personally I hope Huawei just cancels this contract. Let Americans spy on Pakistan whatever. CPEC the Americans must destroy along with BRI.

Many countries can be found to be spying on Pakistan. Friendly and others.

For example:

Snowden revelations: NZ's spy reach stretches across globe - NZ Herald

NZ spies on Vietnam, China, India, Pakistan, South American nations and a range of other countries to help fill gaps in worldwide surveillance operations by the US.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Pakistan and NZ are not enemies however. There are things that 'those in the know' would know but will not discuss openly. Let us not expand on this issue, and stick to the topic on hand therefore.

This is not about Chinese government but Huawei and BES. It is not good to bring 'governments' into this argument.

It is important to understand what type of contract this is and which company mismanaged it. Simple.

 

[Goritoes]

I live in Canada. We were given cultural training for deployments to China to not question or discuss about Uighurs. A little bit of research and some colleagues who happen to be Chinese Muslims, that's where we'd understood that mentioning Uighurs is a sensitive issue.

Vice is not a credible source for the news my friend..

 

[Raider 21]

BS... Prove it. It's the same Western manufactured propaganda as with Iraq's WMDs
...

Did they find the Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction???.... Only the feable minded believe such BS.

Cute

Vice is not a credible source for the news my friend..

Possible

 

[Clutch]

Cute

The reply of someone who has no rebuttal.... Lame

 

[serenity]

Many countries can be found to be spying on Pakistan. Friendly and others.

For example:

Snowden revelations: NZ's spy reach stretches across globe - NZ Herald

NZ spies on Vietnam, China, India, Pakistan, South American nations and a range of other countries to help fill gaps in worldwide surveillance operations by the US.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Pakistan and NZ are not enemies however. There are things that 'those in the know' would know but will not discuss openly. Let us not expand on this issue, and stick to the topic on hand therefore.

This is not about Chinese government but Huawei and BES. It is not good to bring 'governments' into this argument.

It is important to understand what type of contract this is and which company mismanaged it. Simple.

Yes it is about BES and Huawei but BES wants to take Huawei to American court because it says Huawei will use the Huwaei equipment and BES developed software to install backdoors because Huawei refused to give BES access to Huawei's labs for the integration or whatever the articles did not specify.

I think US courts will not be in favor of Huawei's no matter how the situation really is. Huawei is asked to provide its equipment and integrate with BES developed software to serve Pakistan government. Since USA is involved with its courts and BES is a US company, then it is definitely better for Huawei to simply exit the contract to save time wasted and money wasted to defend itself when there is no point. What can Huawei do?

Huawei needs to integrate the software with its equipment as requested by Pakistan government.

There is always room for backdoor and opportunity. Every time BES and US can accuse Huawei of providing backdoors because this is just how it always is. They will only possibly allow it to go ahead if Huawei provide them with total access to Huawei. This is not going to happen so they will just try to get Pakistan government to use an American or American controlled company to provide the equipment. This allows the US to spy on Pakistan but to them they will say at least now China cannot spy on you so you are great!

I say let them do it. Personally I don't care if Huawei loses this tiny bit of income. US is going to keep disrupting BRI and CPEC using whatever method are best effective. US will continue vying for control of Pakistan and try to prevent China from having influence and power over it which I don't think is a bad thing but at the same time I know Pakistan and China ties will eventually be broken because there is no path allowed by the US.

So my own opinion is that China is stupid for trying to make CPEC happen at the cost of so many Chinese investments and lives already. There are many routes for BRI and many ways to ensure oil energy is accessible from Iran, Russia, and Saudi Arabia. It is obviously becoming way too much trouble for China to maintain ties with Pakistan beyond what we already have which is good enough. We are neutral to each other and we share India as a common small to big problem. CPEC will only cost China more and more money wasted and more lives before China finally gives up. This Huawei example is just 1% of what American will keep doing.

It is impossible to guarantee no backdoors. They just want to get access to Huawei and also make sure Pakistan government doesn't use Huawei so Pakistan can only pick something America control and can spy with. Even if access is granted by Huawei, they will 100% find another reason to make sure Huawei is not used. This happened before and they will try the same methods. So personally I think China and Huawei is too stupid for even wasting time and energy to try. We still have so much work left to finish and money needed at home.

 

[Raider 21]

The reply of someone who has no rebuttal.... Lame

What I found lame is that rather than discuss about it, you brought a different topic to it. Anyways, it is forum.

Cheers

 

[beijingwalker]

Uighur Muslims are getting exterminated. The Pakistani government cannot have a say about it yet....

Lol, If they got "exterminated", how come they are still everywhere even in small border towns? Your British media killed every brain cell of yours.

May 28, 2021, Sunsets at Yili River

 

[Raider 21]

Lol, If they got "exterminated", how come they are still everywhere even in small border towns? Your British media killed every brain cell of yours.

May 28, 2021, Sunsets at Yili River

Easy with the insulting there Beijing. I appreciate a discussion and can learn more about it. Behave.

 

[beijingwalker]

Easy with the insulting there Beijing. I appreciate a discussion and can learn more about it. Behave.

But why they're still everywhere after being" exterminated" by your media?

 

[Nasr]

Allegations of purloined trade secrets, unfair competition, national security threats, and more packed into lawsuit

You know, there is a cute american expression I would like to use here .... HORSE$H!T ..... Because that what this is!

 

[Genghis khan1]

Yae tu ho ga. Every softwares created and sold by foreign country will always be at compromise by the originating country. Same goes for the “kill switch” theory of sophisticated military hardware

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

GT Voice: Accusation against Huawei won’t affect China-Pakistan economic cooperation
Claims against Huawei won’t hit China-Pakistan ties

By Global TimesPublished: Aug 16, 2021 09:13 PM

Photo taken on April 10, 2021 shows a night view of the Lahore converter station of the ±660kV Matiari-Lahore high-voltage direct current (HVDC) transmission project under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) in Pakistan's eastern Punjab Province. The transmission ceremony of the project was held simultaneously in Islamabad and China's Beijing through video link on June 25, 2021.Photo:Xinhua

Accusation by a US-based contractor that Chinese tech giant Huawei had set up a "backdoor" to spy on Pakistanis has drawn growing attention with the political implications behind the scene.

California-based contractor Business Efficiency Solutions LLC (BES) filed a lawsuit in California district court accusing Huawei of not only stealing its technology, but also of creating a "backdoor" in a safe-cities surveillance project located in Pakistan's second largest city of Lahore, The Wall Street Journal reported.

BES said in the lawsuit that Huawei required it to set up a system in China that gives Huawei access to sensitive information about citizens and government officials in Lahore, but Huawei claimed that the system in China was only a test version and it is "impossible for Huawei to extract data from the customer's live network," according to the WSJ report.

The US has long accused Huawei of installing backdoors in its systems, but Huawei always denied the allegations, citing the absence of any evidence of Huawei using backdoors to spy on other countries. The lawsuit this time may represent a rare example that involves specific project and companies when it comes to the backdoor allegation. However, given the complicated geopolitical background, it is hard to tell whether the allegations raised by BES are based on business disputes or whether they have an ulterior motive.

It should be noted that Huawei and BES also sued each other in Pakistan, and BES is reportedly no longer operational and has no revenue.

Many have stated that it appears unusual that Pakistan is involved in the lawsuit. Over the past seven decades, China and Pakistan have formed a strong and close relationship, which saw strategic partnership and cooperation flourish in almost every field. Pakistan is one of the most active participants in the Belt and Road Initiative, and there are multiple areas of economic cooperation and development projects between China and Pakistan. Pakistan is also one of the markets where Huawei enjoys the fastest development.

Huawei's software and systems are widely used in countries around the world. With the launch of the Harmony system, it is expected that there will be more and more countries choosing Huawei software and systems. Whether Huawei wins the lawsuit or not, the accusations may not only affect Huawei's global business but also be used to drive a wedge between China and Pakistan. Such calculations may help answer the question as to whether there was any political motivation behind the lawsuit.

Yet, we believe that high levels of mutual trust between China and Pakistan will be sufficient to allow bilateral economic cooperation to withstand the impact of groundless accusations.

Some US or Western companies vying to access the South Asian market have been envious of China's long-term economic cooperation with Pakistan. Nevertheless, it is important to note that their cooperation projects don't reject the participation of companies from other countries. But the precondition is that they have the willingness to cooperation instead of smearing and squeezing Chinese companies out through improper means.