HQ-9 Surface to Air Missile and Pakistan Air Force

[Rafi]

MI will get cross, if this subject is discussed again, suffice to say AAD AMD has improved massively and will continue to do so, and leave it at that.

 

[Secur]

hq9 s-300 ki hi to copy hai

Nothing surprising to see your lot trolling here .

The usual BS ! ' This is a copy of this , that is a copy of that and its either reverse engineered/stolen/copied and well inferior since it isn't Western or Russian ' . Just seen plenty of comments like that in this thread too , of course devoid of any logic , comparison or research .

 

[帅的一匹]

Nothing surprising to see your lot trolling here .

The usual BS ! ' This is a copy of this , that is a copy of that and its either reverse engineered/stolen/copied and well inferior since it isn't Western or Russian ' . Just seen plenty of comments like that in this thread too , of course devoid of any logic , comparison or research .

Ignore those sour grape, Even turkey army prefers HQ9 in the bidding.

 

[SQ8]

i heard that the yankees were busy finding the launch sites when we went high alert after mumbai attacks and that they even found some. is it true ?

Nothing as such. The US was not involved as such in trying to spy on us during that period. What are plausible rumours is that they checked out supposed militant training sites as alleged by the Indians but found nothing there.

 

[Dillinger]

Nothing as such. The US was not involved as such in trying to spy on us during that period. What are plausible rumours is that they checked out supposed militant training sites as alleged by the Indians but found nothing there.

So how many HQ-9 batteries are operational atm, any idea?

 

[SQ8]

So how many HQ-9 batteries are operational atm, any idea?

No idea. On official records the system has not been purchased at any time in the past 5 years by the armed forces. So unless the system was purchased using the accounts of "black" organizations such as SPD, NESCOM and the like whose accounts are not published; the system is not in Pakistan.

 

[Dillinger]

No idea. On official records the system has not been purchased at any time in the past 5 years by the armed forces. So unless the system was purchased using the accounts of "black" organizations such as SPD, NESCOM and the like whose accounts are not published; the system is not in Pakistan.

Most probably then its been an under the table purchase, for what reason one can only wonder- its not as if either side can hide such systems without packing them off completely. No?

 

[SQ8]

Most probably then its been an under the table purchase, for what reason one can only wonder- its not as if either side can hide such systems without packing them off completely. No?

The S-300 series is much more mobile than something like the Sa-2 I suppose. Yet, These sites serve no purpose if they are not deployed and ready for action. That being said, the response time of setting up a system is anywhere from within 15 minutes to 30 minutes. So perhaps if there are such batteries, they could easily be hiding away in plain sight to deploy in case things go bad.

 

[Dillinger]

The S-300 series is much more mobile than something like the Sa-2 I suppose. Yet, These sites serve no purpose if they are not deployed and ready for action. That being said, the response time of setting up a system is anywhere from within 15 minutes to 30 minutes. So perhaps if there are such batteries, they could easily be hiding away in plain sight to deploy in case things go bad.

Must tide over some of the issues related with the ADGE. Game changer, significant increase in capability?

 

[SQ8]

Must tide over some of the issues related with the ADGE. Game changer, significant increase in capability?

They do offer a significant increase when coupled with a very astute C4I system; something that does exist this side of the border. However, their positions would mostly seek to guard the keystones within the C4I infrastructure and as such would be deployed in limited numbers(3-4 batteries at max) around northern Pakistan. That means covering certain command & control assets, research facilities, certain storage sites etc. If the target of hostile attacks in NOT these sites at all, then their addition is only a piecemeal to the entire network.

Currently, most(if not all) of Pakistan's ADA assets are networked and controlled by a tiered CnC system. Information sharing is instant across all assets(leaving only some of the more antiquated ADA system on their own, i.e they are guided by men swivelling guns on cue from a wireless operator). What is left then are assets that can exploit the system to its best.

What must also be taken into thought when assessing if such systems exist, is the purchases on the opposite end.
After all, as such on paper Pakistan had little assets in terms of radar guided surface to air threats and not much in the way of radars. And weapons have a shelf life.. hence India's recent purchase of KH-31 and KH-27 systems for most of its western command assets implies they now calculate a radar guided threat that is better than the antiquated Crotale systems they faced in the past.
This also corresponds well with Pakistan's purchase of Mar-1 systems and India's purchase of improved Sa-3 missiles and Sa-17 variants. So, certain trends are easy to pick out if you simply scan some plain info lying around.

 

[Zarvan]

HQ-9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @Oscar wikki also says Pakistan is using this missile system

 

[SQ8]

HQ-9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @Oscar wikki also says Pakistan is using this missile system

Please stop trusting all that it is there on the internet, such as wikipedia. Most of the material on the internet is altered, mutilated, poisoned and generally crap , especially on religion and politics.

 

[Dillinger]

Please stop trusting all that it is there on the internet, such as wikipedia. Most of the material on the internet is altered, mutilated, poisoned and generally crap , especially on religion and politics.

You had might as well kill off half the jingos here then.

 

[Zarvan]

Please stop trusting all that it is there on the internet, such as wikipedia. Most of the material on the internet is altered, mutilated, poisoned and generally crap , especially on religion and politics.

Well Sir why do you think Pakistan haven't bought it yet the economy issue or they are those weapons which a country cannot sold to other like Ballistic missiles

 

[Dillinger]

Well Sir why do you think Pakistan haven't bought it yet the economy issue or they are those weapons which a country cannot sold to other like Ballistic missiles

There are no restrictions as such on its sale unless Uncle Sam is breathing down your neck and you have sanctions on you (Iran).

The point @Oscar sir is making is that definite confirmation is not possible (since the money trail even for highly sensitive acquisitions like the Erieye AEW&C can be found on the net but somehow no such info is available for the system n question anywhere), but looking at other acquisitions on either side may help to build a larger picture albeit with some gaps- afterwards a careful look at it might allow you to reach a reasonably probable solution.

Otherwise it makes sense, as he says, that the systems would be deployed to cover key facilities. Now if someone wants to start shooting MRBMs or CMs down with it then they're out of luck but its a good system.