How should Pakistan tackle S400 acquisition by India? The Drone Swarm Technology....

[CriticalThought]

The best response to S-400
and possibly the only viable response

will and should be to break india on ethnic lines.

Now if only we had the vision, spirit, and capability to perform such bold actions.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Now if only we had the vision, spirit, and capability to perform such bold actions.

The british did it in 1947. Then the indians did it in 1971 whats to sat pakistan cant do it in 2027? after all whats been done once can be done easier 2nd time or even better and faster the third time.

 

[CriticalThought]

The british did it in 1947. Then the indians did it in 1971 whats to sat pakistan cant do it in 2027? after all whats been done once can be done easier 2nd time or even better and faster the third time.

Needs proper vision, planning, and execution. Our leaders currently are too 'pro-democracy', 'pro-liberalism', 'pro-multiculturism' etc.

If such an event is to happen in 2027, then Asim Munir better start preparations now.

 

[Falcon26]

I think we will get an idea of what PAF is thinking during IDEAS 2018. There are three sessions devoted to inducting new fighter jet http://ideaspakistan.gov.pk/air_conference.php#

 

[HariPrasad]

S 400 batries generally do not need any protection since it has 4 types of Missiles (Indian version and Not the chinese one) ranging from 30 to 40 km range to 400 km range. It will be a huge system scattered across a large geographical location impossible to target in one shot. However, enemy may think of targeting the radar. Some critical parts of S 400 shall be protected by short range SAM specifically designed for the purpose. It will require a great technological advancement to take out out S 400. Even the countries like US and Israel finds it difficult to counter even S300 forget about S400. So Pakistan may counter S 400 in any near future seems almost impossible.

 

[Fawad alam]

Dear

S 400 batries generally do not need any protection since it has 4 types of Missiles (Indian version and Not the chinese one) ranging from 30 to 40 km range to 400 km range. It will be a huge system scattered across a large geographical location impossible to target in one shot. However, enemy may think of targeting the radar. Some critical parts of S 400 shall be protected by short range SAM specifically designed for the purpose. It will require a great technological advancement to take out out S 400. Even the countries like US and Israel finds it difficult to counter even S300 forget about S400. So Pakistan may counter S 400 in any near future seems almost impossible.

Why we will go after a target which is heavily guarded?
Only if we able to neutralize S400 effects in our airspace is enough for us i think.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I agree with you and Irfan Baloch, S400 brings new challenges and we will tackle them with our courage and determination, even installing same equipment like S400 in small numbers with low range to defend our air space from incoming S400 Missiles or use electronic counter measures to deceive S400, this will be no problem after some time, only we need to do some homework.

who is giving us S400? do you mean a chinese rip off? we already indebted to the hilt by CPEC loans we wont be able to get them.
build something in house and get Khadim Rizvi to organise mass prayers that the system is potent enough otherwise yea
based on public knowledge the best option is actually send special forces to disable those systems.

 

[Fawad alam]

who is giving us S400? do you mean a chinese rip off? we already indebted to the hilt by CPEC loans we wont be able to get them.
build something in house and get Khadim Rizvi to organise mass prayers that the system is potent enough otherwise yea
based on public knowledge the best option is actually send special forces to disable those systems.

My S400 meaning is any potent system with minimum range to defend our airspace not realy like S400, No need to buy expensive long range toys.

 

[khanmubashir]

In Syria only the S-200 has failed. The S-300 was deployed only recently, and it is being seen as a very major development. Now here is the point: even if Israel eventually circumvents the S-300, there is no reason to believe that Pakistan would have the same level of technological prowess any time soon. So, yes, the S-400 remains a very big threat.



At this point, I advise you stop talking about things you don't understand.



Hopefully, with help from Turkey and China we will have some sort of workaround. But the whole point is that time will be of essence if India strikes. Will we have a solution that circumvents India's multi-layered air defence in a matter of seconds and allows us to retaliate? No! Such is the reality of modern air defence. Which is why, for the foreseeable future, our best response is to have an equivalent, adequate air defence.

It will be at least two years before making India gets the complete system btw when did India signed pakfa agreement and when was the jet due

As for chaff and decoys and signature masking they r real things Sonny
Russia had deployed s400 in Syria since 2016 but it could never shoot a single intruder now the apologists would say Russian could have but chose not to
but then when USA could have bomb Russian mercenaries inside syria they did so deary

And when India grows the balls to do a real strike we will see right now they can only do Rundi Rona propaganda about surgi kal strikes to fool stupid bhagats

It's like the ragon starwar propaganda turned out to be all bark little bite

 

[CriticalThought]

It will be at least two years before making India gets the complete system btw when did India signed pakfa agreement and when was the jet due

As for chaff and decoys and signature masking they r real things Sonny
Russia had deployed s400 in Syria since 2016 but it could never shoot a single intruder now the apologists would say Russian could have but chose not to
but then when USA could have bomb Russian mercenaries inside syria they did so deary

And when India grows the balls to do a real strike we will see right now they can only do Rundi Rona propaganda about surgi kal strikes to fool stupid bhagats

It's like the ragon starwar propaganda turned out to be all bark little bite

I never said chaff and decoys and signature masking our real. I just question your understanding of these technologies. And don't try to 'sonny' me.

Now provide a valid reference that Russia has deployed S400 in Syria but it could never shoot a single intruder.

The truth of the matter is that the full force of Russian air power has not been brought to bear against USA/Israel. The S300 changes that. The whole world is watching keenly. I advise you also watch and learn.

 

[Falcon26]

I never said chaff and decoys and signature masking our real. I just question your understanding of these technologies. And don't try to 'sonny' me.

Now provide a valid reference that Russia has deployed S400 in Syria but it could never shoot a single intruder.

The truth of the matter is that the full force of Russian air power has not been brought to bear against USA/Israel. The S300 changes that. The whole world is watching keenly. I advise you also watch and learn.

Russia has S-400s deployed in Syria but that’s to protect its own forces following the Turkish shooting of the Russian jet. They don’t interfere with attacks on Syrian targets. But the recent “friendly” shooting of the Russian plane does raise some doubts about Russian claims of having full eyes over Syria.

 

[CriticalThought]

Russia has S-400s deployed in Syria but that’s to protect its own forces following the Turkish shooting of the Russian jet. They don’t interfere with attacks on Syrian targets. But the recent “friendly” shooting of the Russian plane does raise some doubts about Russian claims of having full eyes over Syria.

I want a reference on the inability of S-400 to achieve its objectives in Russia.

The recent event involved S-200. And Syria had explicitly asked for S-300 and had been denied. That has changed now. We are all waiting and watching.

 

[khanmubashir]

I never said chaff and decoys and signature masking our real. I just question your understanding of these technologies. And don't try to 'sonny' me.

Now provide a valid reference that Russia has deployed S400 in Syria but it could never shoot a single intruder.

The truth of the matter is that the full force of Russian air power has not been brought to bear against USA/Israel. The S300 changes that. The whole world is watching keenly. I advise you also watch and learn.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaff_(countermeasure)

 

[Falcon26]

I want a reference on the inability of S-400 to achieve its objectives in Russia.

The recent event involved S-200. And Syria had explicitly asked for S-300 and had been denied. That has changed now. We are all waiting and watching.

I don’t think anyone is claiming that S-400 has failed to shoot anything. Russian forces aren’t under attack in Syria, and as far as the Russians are concerned, the system hasn’t been used.

 

[CriticalThought]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaff_(countermeasure)

Ahem. I asked for a reference on the claims about S400.