How Saudi Arabia is pushing for war

[Hussein]

Stop being naive about the world politics, Russia has their own business to take care about.

There is no such thing as good or bad, no matter what, Saudi Arabia has not done anything bad to China so far.

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Well, you can call this a political game from Saudi Arabia, but remember many nations were trying to infiltrate into our underground infrastructure under the name of 'the humanitarian aid' when the earthquake happened, but KSA helped us to solve a lot of short cut problems with their aid.

i am curious about what you say
which countries are you speaking about or which organizations ?

 

[al-Hasani]

Saudi Arabia is a close ally of the US, but it is no puppet. Please read the history of ups and downs of US-Saudi relations:
Saudi Arabia

Do you have any source for this claim that Saudi's are assisting the US to spread extremism? After 9/11, as far as I know the US and Saudi govt. are working hard to eliminate extremism. Some private individuals from some gulf nations may send funds, but their govt. is not involved.

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And Uyghur's are not very religious, I have been to Xinjiang several times, they drink quite a bit. Its more of an ethnic nationalism problem for Uyghur's only, not an Islamic extremism problem. And this problem will go away with time, since most of the new generation are learning Chinese as a 2nd language at school, which will help them get jobs more easily. Language barrier was and is one of their biggest problem to work in Chinese govt. jobs or private Chinese owned businesses.

Pakistan, Bangladesh and Indonesia, the 3 biggest Muslim majority countries have close relations with China, and they don't support Uyghur separatist activities, nor do the Central Asian Turkic states, Turkey or Arab countries. Rebiya Kadeer is a trouble maker, she understand very little about world geopolitics and some clueless short sighted overseas Uyghur follow her unfortunately. She is not welcome in most Muslim countries. I think only Turkey allows them to visit, but this is due to Turkey's internal politics I think, due to Pan-Turkic nationalism, and I doubt they provide them with any material support, other than letting them stay.

Some criminals will cause trouble from time to time, so Chinese govt. have to have a patient measured response, otherwise the West will use human rights issue to put pressure on China.

@Wholegrain your kind opinion please.

This forum is a great place for a laugh from time to time. It is more or less guaranteed.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Yes, Iran was the aggressor, not only in Iraq, but there were behind two terrorists attacks.



Israel is makes people saying stupid things.

Ashamed of what? Financing what? :/ If you didn't get what I'm saying then please don't post illogically.

Yo mean Iran was the one who attacked Kuwait !!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

 

[Mozambique Drill]

regional war started before , you know it
this event is just a non major part of the regional conflicts
but i understand it is convenient to blame Iran to be the only problem on the planet. i hope it can solve the debt and the ecology matters

You hijacked a complete country and then made Syria a dependency.

You so-called 'Persians' are meddling endlessly in Arab affairs.

 

[Hussein]

You hijacked a complete country and then made Syria a dependency.

You so-called 'Persians' are meddling endlessly in Arab affairs.

stop with your non sense racist comments
get a life

 

[Hack-Hook]

You hijacked a complete country and then made Syria a dependency.

You so-called 'Persians' are meddling endlessly in Arab affairs.

Arab's Affair ?
what does Arab Affair means ?
are you implying because they speak Arabic they are not supposed to befriends others and have better relation with a country that don't speak Arabic.

It's funny your logic is a little outdated , lets just say you are behind the world and civilization by just several centuries .

stop with your non sense racist comments
get a life

that's because of the trauma of not being accepted as equal citizen in your country .
so please don't be hard on him.

 

[Hussein]

that's because of the trauma of not being accepted as equal citizen in your country .
so please don't be hard on him.

what ? he is living in UK it seems and is Israeli. I am Iranian living in France and some other countries (but not UK)

 

[Sun Piwa]

KSA won't stand someone who gassed his people, scrambled his MiGs and Mils to bomb villages, and mobilizing his Russian-built tanks to crush people's skulls. To put two and two together, the Saudis won't back down until the fight is over and then we shall emerge victorious.




God bless " Syria Al-Asad "

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You should be ashamed of yourself.

You can notice that SAA beat people quite softly, and it's rare. You can see that the captured terrorist is not even scared

SAA never behead, they never execute like Al Qaeda anti-arabs sect do.

The SAA don't do satanist beheadings like the Al Qaeda dogs of the JEWS do

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[Hack-Hook]

what ? he is living in UK it seems and is Israeli. I am Iranian living in France and some other countries (but not UK)

well his name Mozambique Drill suggest he is from African ancestry and in Israel let just say African Jews are considered less Jew by many European and Asian Jews

 

[Mozambique Drill]

Arab's Affair ?
what does Arab Affair means ?
are you implying because they speak Arabic they are not supposed to befriends others and have better relation with a country that don't speak Arabic.

It's funny your logic is a little outdated , lets just say you are behind the world and civilization by just several centuries .



that's because of the trauma of not being accepted as equal citizen in your country .
so please don't be hard on him.

Lebanon had NOTHING to do with Iran. You decided to implant a foreign army into that country and then topple its government by killing ministers.

You are a terrorist state hell bent on regional hegemony. You wanted to surround us. You took over Lebanon, you funded Islamic Jihad/Hamas, you made Syria a dependency and tried your best to court Egypt so you could surround Israel.

You absolute bastards.

And you have the audacity to pretend like it's some altruistic move by Iran.

You have destroyed Lebanon. It would have been a beacon of freedom without Iran's tentacles.

What you've done to Lebanon angers me more than almost anything else. Without YOUR shitty country, Israel and Lebanon by now would be good friends with trade and tourism.

 

[Cheetah786]

Iran builds military, Iran starts imaginary projects, Iran threatens to destroy USA and Middle East

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Those damm Iranians building Military for their defense How dare they stand up to Israel and west they should be destroyed. I am with you brother.

Iran was the first one to interfere in Syria.......

Yes its well known Iranians were the first ones to arm and finance Terrorist in Syria oh wait thats was house of Saud.BUt House of Saud was the first one to interfere in Bahrain? Any thoughts

And Iranians claim that Saudi Arabia is pushing for a war.

John Kerry Arabs are willing to put up the money for war on Syria Arabs financing the terrorist in Syria. Wow Have some self respect man

 

[Hussein]

well his name Mozambique Drill suggest he is from African ancestry and in Israel let just say African Jews are considered less Jew by many European and Asian Jews

i don't think so
i have many Jew friends who came from Morroco especially and Algeria too. They are considered the same than others here. I don't know much about inside Israel but the one i know there from France (and born in Morroco) having no problem there: hving a good job, a political position even . One of the greatest guy i know.

totally OT (sorry again) but if you could watch this animation (he is a fan like me of this animation):

 

[I-LEK]

When Secretary of State John Kerry met with his Saudi counterpart Prince Saud al-Faisal in Paris this week, he likely got an earful of complaints over Syria. There was no public news conference after their meeting, which makes sense given that the Saudis often prefer that their sensitive consultations with the United States remain hidden behind closed doors. However, Kerry’s announcement earlier in the day of a conference to boost the Syrian opposition was probably intended in part as a sop to the Saudis.

Barely one week earlier, Kerry came out of another meeting with Saud al-Faisal trumpeting that the United States had Saudi Arabia’s support for military action against Syria. This was an understatement. Riyadh was downright aggressive in its push for an American-led intervention after the alleged August 21 chemical weapons attack that U.S. officials say killed more than 1,400 people in Ghouta, Syria.

The Saudis badly wanted to see a strike on Syria, and they have grown frustrated with America’s fitful diplomacy since then. Recently, they have seemed less willing than usual to submerge their disagreements with Washington from public view. And there is undoubtedly a real sense of urgency to their efforts.

Late last month, the Saudis were the guiding hand behind an Arab League statement hammering the al-Assad regime. However, because that statement deferred to the U.N. Security Council, the Saudis then produced a second Arab League statement on September 1 calling on “the international community” to “take the necessary measures.” Both times, Riyadh sought stronger language, but was stymied by Algeria, Lebanon, and even Egypt.

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After Russian opposition in August precluded authorization to use force from the U.N. Security Council, Saudi Arabia began collecting votes for a similar proposed bill in the General Assembly instead. Given that the U.N.’s weapon inspectors still had not issued their report – and because such a vote could actually complicate Western efforts – the U.S., Britain, and France implored the Saudis to hold back.

For a short period, it appeared Washington was about to strike Syria. However, when the British parliament voted against participating, President Obama reversed course and put the decision in the hands of Congress. It was at this point that Saud al-Faisal went public with the Kingdom’s grievances. In a remarkably blunt statement, he declared, “we demand that the international community does the action required… to stop the aggression on the Syrian people before they’re exterminated.”

The Saudis are now unabashed about their desire for action against al-Assad. They were one of the few ardent backers of military action at the latest G20 summit. Secretary Kerry recently testified that unspecified Arab states – widely understood to include Saudi Arabia – offered to foot the bill for military intervention in Syria, even up to the level of a ground invasion.

In addition to literally blaming Israel for all of the region’s problems, a Saudi cabinet meeting this month under Crown Prince Salman “renew[ed] the Kingdom’s firm positions toward the crisis” in Syria and “call[ed] on the international community to fulfill its humanitarian responsibilities to save the Syrian people” from “genocide”. Another cabinet meeting this past week called on the international community to “stop the fighting in Syria immediately”.

The Saudis have little sympathy for new potential diversions. Although Saudi officials have gone relatively quiet since Russia’s proposal on chemical weapons derailed U.S. plans to attack Syria, it is obvious they are not pleased.

Speaking in Saudi Arabia on behalf of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), Bahrain’s foreign minister dismissed Russia’s proposal. Not only does Saudi Arabia dominate the GCC, but it also plays such a prominent role in the GCC force propping up Bahrain’s regime that some observers consider the tiny Gulf country “a confederated province of Saudi Arabia”.

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Another window into Riyadh’s perceptions of the U.S.-Russian effort comes from prominent Saudi commentators. Saudi scholar Khaled al-Dakhil believes recent events prove America and Saudi Arabia fundamentally disagree about almost every aspect of the conflict in Syria: most notably, the Saudis see toppling al-Assad as an urgent strategic imperative but Washington apparently does not. Tariq Alhomayed, a senior journalist who is plugged in with the royal family, writes that the U.S.-Russian deal this weekend is “like buying fish in the sea” because it guarantees little and seems likely to fail.

To be sure, other countries have also advocated for U.S. intervention – notably Israel, Turkey, and France. However, Saudi Arabia’s posture has gone further than these other countries, which appeared to be lending their diplomatic and political support to President Obama rather than pressuring him to act.

The most recent turn of events has got to have many Saudis wondering how much they should rely on America to advance their security interests. Richard LeBaron, a former U.S. ambassador to Kuwait, believes that Saudi Arabia went out on a limb for military intervention in Syria but that, with America’s step back from the precipice, “that limb was unceremoniously chopped off.”

Saudi Arabia has more than one reason for advocating intervention in Syria. To be sure, there is a humanitarian element to Riyadh’s rhetorical fury. But Saudi Arabia is also eager to push back against the excesses of an Iranian-backed regime in the heart of the Levant. Presumably, this is also why Saudi Arabia has been buying up tens of billions of dollars of American military equipment.

But while the Kingdom has stepped up its efforts to arm Syrian insurgents since the alleged massacre at Ghouta, the absence of any Saudi preparations for a direct military intervention of their own should be telling. For the foreseeable future, when push comes to shove, the Saudis still expect us to do their fighting for them.


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[Hack-Hook]

i don't think so
i have many Jew friends who came from Morroco especially and Algeria too. They are considered the same than others here. I don't know much about inside Israel but the one i know there from France (and born in Morroco) having no problem there: hving a good job, a political position even . One of the greatest guy i know.

totally OT (sorry again) but if you could watch this animation (he is a fan like me of this animation):

not the black one , the ones from north Africa are reasonably light for their ego.
Racism in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Israel rejects black Hebrews as Jews

 

[Doritos11]

Wth is that, who wrote those countries names