How Pakistan could effectively cripple Indian’s air force with rocket artillery, and what is needed.

[Surya 1]

The war would likely be short, but very intense and Pakistan could set the IAF years, and at least a trillion dollars back and embarrass India, (and Russia) on the world stage. China would be elated that its product worked as intended.

The Problem with what you write is that you don't consider Indian response and the problems in conducting this Strike which you are saying. You assume that Pakistan will do everything and India will not respond and let Pakistan do whatever they like. in fact when India will respond, it will cripple your whole command control communication network within first few hours of Pakistani attack. Then all Pakistani strategic assets will be a sitting duck for Indian Airforce to targe. Neither Pakistani plane will be able to fly from its runway nor GPS will work. All strategic weapons, depots, military bases, q airstrips etc. will be e destroyed in air strike and pinpoint Missile attack followed by waive off multi barrel rocket launcher wiping out any assets of military importance within 100 kilometres of Indian border.

 

[khail007]

3 decades down the road, sat resolution has improved, and so have other sensors, coupled with AI, it can mark targets of interest all on its own.

You are right ... measures and countermeasures all significantly improved since then ... some factors are still have an advantage and mobility is one of that. Still targets are easy as compared to moving ones either human or equipment.

 

[Philip the Arab]

The Problem with what you write is that you don't consider Indian response and the problems in conducting this Strike which you are saying. You assume that Pakistan will do everything and India will not respond and let Pakistan do whatever they like. in fact when India will respond, it will cripple your whole command control communication network within first few hours of Pakistani attack. Then all Pakistani strategic assets will be a sitting duck for Indian Airforce to targe. Neither Pakistani plane will be able to fly from its runway nor GPS will work. All strategic weapons, depots, military bases, q airstrips etc. will be e destroyed in air strike and pinpoint Missile attack followed by waive off multi barrel rocket launcher wiping out any assets of military importance within 100 kilometres of Indian border.

Yes I did, quite simple India only has limited amount of LACM, and only 100km range Nirbhay. Launch BMs and risk nuclear war. India is underprepared for now to respond to a coordinated destruction of air bases, and even army bases.

Aircraft you could muster from other commands would need aerial refueling, and even then sortie rate would be easy for PAF to deal with.

 

[Surya 1]

Yes I did, quite simple India only has limited amount of LACM, and only 100km range Nirbhay. Launch BMs and risk nuclear war. India is underprepared for now to respond to a coordinated destruction of air bases, and even army bases.

Aircraft you could muster from other commands would need aerial refueling, and even then sortie rate would be easy for PAF to deal with.

Your post has Siple wishful thinking and nothing else. it is factually incorrect as well.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Your post has Symphony wishful thinking and nothing else. it is actually incorrect as well.

Nope m8, Nirbhay is in limited production and you are assuming PAF, and PA air defenses would allow limited Indian aircraft coming from other Air Commands to freely launch SOWs, and other weapons without being shot down, or the projectiles intercepted?

Again, you would need hundreds, and hundreds of Nirbhays in production to take out PAF and that's not going to happen soon.

Good job! Really impressed!


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3 decades down the road, sat resolution has improved, and so have other sensors, coupled with AI, it can mark targets of interest all on its own.

Great PAF should acquire those for shore batteries like Algeria. I doubt IN would be able to intercept barrages of even 5 missiles even with Barak 8.

 

[GumNaam]

Nope m8, Nirbhay is in limited production and you are assuming PAF, and PA air defenses would allow limited Indian aircraft coming from other Air Commands to freely launch SOWs, and other weapons without being shot down, or the projectiles intercepted?

Again, you would need hundreds, and hundreds of Nirbhays in production to take out PAF and that's not going to happen soon.


Great PAF should acquire those for shore batteries like Algeria. I doubt IN would be able to intercept barrages of even 5 missiles even with Barak 8.

the indians nearly lost their army chief in a well coordinated attack in broad day light and that too, they in 6 different locations, & went away unscathe without any challenge either from the air or the isreali made sams on the ground...indians should thank their stars that they couldn't kill a single "terrorist" in their botched joke of an air raid...otherwise they would've still been cremating their dead one year later.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Long range MBRLs (A-100) and short range ballistic missiles (ghauris) to target indian air bases close to the LOC/border (pathankot being a good example). Hundreds of precision missiles lobbed at hangar would wreak havoc. Followed by a second wave of ucavs to destroy anything left over.

Medium/long range missiles such as hundreds of baburs, raads, and shaheens can be used for indian air bases further from the border for an initial shock and awe strike. Followed by a second wave of ground strike aircrafts (JF-17s/F-16's equiped with targeting pods for accuracy). Both waves should be no less than a few minutes apart meaning the aircrafts should strike by the time the first wave of initial missile strikes are completed.

Multiple waves of missile strikes should be conducted for both instances... somewhere around 2-3 along with a similar portion of air strikes following every missile strike. Would require around 12-15 Ballistic missiles per indian air base judging from the deadly strikes Iran did on american bases in iraq earlier this year. Word has it that Pakistani missiles are even more accurate due to Chinese assistant with gyroscophic tech.

Total of 500+ Cruise missiles and 500+ ballistic missiles would be needed. Not counting the sexy A-100s we have in stock. Best use case for the A-100 would be to total short range forward air bases to allow our missile resources to be used for longer range targets.

Every indian air base knocked out gives our air force more breathing space in the initial few days of the campaign.



Your jaguars would be destroyed before they even got off the ground Why do you think Pakistan has invested billions over decades in ballistic and cruise missiles?

Your radars would be jammed by our electronic warfare weapons... you guys wouldnt know left from right or up from down like february last year.

More than any other Pakistani missile, with other missiles i would love to see, few nuclear tipped "Nasr" dropped among the Indians attacking ground forces. And few other depleted Uranium products Pakistan has.
Pakistan shouldn't worry about wider nuclear war. Indians would be foolish to start it, but if they do, let them start it.
That would be a game changer on huge scale. At the moment, Indians have no answer to it.
As a matter of fact, if we look at their missiles in "Operational" category, Indians have relied heavily on Russiaa and now on Israel.
Israeli co-operation we should be keeping an eye at.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

How do you know that no terrorists were sent to see their 72 virgins? The area was cordoned off for quite some time before the press was allowed to see anything.

They went to see your mama also. They say she was getting fed up of the following from your papa......:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6161691.stm

Your mama wanted a real man not a little-weiner man........

 

[KhanBaba2]

and only 100km range Nirbhay.

Nirbhay is 1000 km. And is not inducted. So we don't have Nirbhay yet.

 

[CHI RULES]

Brahmos is not even a god of a missile like people claim, it is a rebranded "Streaker" Cold War missile that NATO(And American Made) ships are geared towards.

Sir I appreciate your effort and quite assure that even with fire finding radar it may not be possible to destroy Pak Rocket artillery as they shall not be static. Further use of EW measures is also not out of question. However calling Brahmos inaccurate is certainly not justifiable. Though may not be accurate for pin point attack yet considering that most of Pakistan military installations are situated nearby populated areas so they shall be at risk of facing heavy losses in case of any attack by Brahmos. So far Pakistan has only installed even medium range SAMs for protection of limited sites.

 

[Blacklight]

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@jaibi @AgNoStiC MuSliM @The Eagle

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

limited amount of LACM

They have Brahmos which they threatened to launch on 27th feb

 

[KhanBaba2]

@jaibi @AgNoStiC MuSliM @The Eagle


With the tech they have, and it's lethality, we have to insure that Pakistanis crows are not driven to extinction. This is a very serious situation.

You are trolling in the very same post that you are calling all the mods. At least put that in two different posts.

 

[Blacklight]

the indians nearly lost their army chief in a well coordinated attack in broad day light and that too, they in 6 different locations, & went away unscathe without any challenge either from the air or the isreali made sams on the ground...indians should thank their stars that they couldn't kill a single "terrorist" in their botched joke of an air raid...otherwise they would've still been cremating their dead one year later.

With the tech they have, and it's lethality, we have to insure that Pakistanis crows are not driven to extinction. This is a very serious situation.

You are trolling in the very same post that you are calling all the mods. At least put that in two different posts.

What makes you think I'm trolling? Those hanumans high on cow cola, are a serious threat to our crow population.

They have Brahmos which they threatened to launch on 27th feb

But they didn't, because they know, it wont be tit for tat, it will be more than that.

Jo bhaunktay hain, woh kat-tay nahi.

 

[Avatar]

They went to see your mama also. They say she was getting fed up of the following from your papa......:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6161691.stm

Your mama wanted a real man not a little-weiner man........

Stooping down to personal insults is a classic display of intellectual defeat.

Poor souls were children of poor people while the ones who encourage them to Jihad always send their own children to live in UK, Europe etc.