How PAF Should Counter the SU-30 MKI

[Mech]

Hi,

One at a time---and sometimes two----. Would that be okay.

Don't worry---these will be taken out as well----I was just talking about the mindset---if it happened that way----period. Thank you.

This is quite ridiculous. The PAF has nothing ( when considering aircraft assets ) , to counter the MKI. It is out-classed qualitatively and quantitatively. And that bit about the PAF jets dying on enemy airspace.............;

They can die wherever they please....we are not monsters after all.

 

[DARKY]

Hi,

I see that you are still in the numbers----100 is too much---a number between 15--20 su 30 shot down by paf on day 1, would run shudders in the ranks of Iaf. Once the cloak of invincibility is shattered---the psyche will be blown away.

The myth of the su 30 will either be shattered on day 1 of the combat or it will be the end game for paf. But once the myth gets shattered---the rest of the iaf will be no match.

Sir is it like game of Cricket ?... 1st 15 overs and Sehwag/Afridi takes the match away.

 

[JonAsad]

Its more like leaving the work to be done by specialists. If Su-30MKI goes deep into Pakistani territory, SAM threat will be maximum than any other aircrafts, same thing applies for F-16s too, if it intrudes into Indian territory.

Well this is just what i said- flagship fighters MKI's and F-16 will be assigned defensive roles-

while you'll see alot of JF-17's and Mirages in forward bombing or deep strike roles-

Post of a classic 16yo drooling fanboy-

and
thanks for the compliment.

chote i expected a rebuttal not a fart- ifits above your league to comprehend wait for your ovulation-

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how about you people checking USAF+its allies???

worry about your self only- we love you more than amrikans- -

 

[DARKY]

thus- a jet with such huge RCS cannot strike deep-
we have AWACS to compensate the lack in radar-

AWACS are vulnerable assets when your enemy can go a loop around Iran and enter the border from Balochistan/Afghanistan and strike the AWACS with Stand off weapons like K-100/172... your turkey needs more protection.

 

[Tumba]

Hi,

I see that you are still in the numbers----100 is too much---a number between 15--20 su 30 shot down by paf on day 1, would run shudders in the ranks of Iaf. Once the cloak of invincibility is shattered---the psyche will be blown away.

The myth of the su 30 will either be shattered on day 1 of the combat or it will be the end game for paf. But once the myth gets shattered---the rest of the iaf will be no match.

haha 15-20 MKIs in one day that too by 18 BLK 52s with kill switch in hands of your great ally ... and BLK 52 is your most advance plane that gets regularly beaten by IAF in various exercises ... i dont think you know ...Singapore BLK 52s are regularly station in Indian air force base near kolkatta ... as singapore has leased a good part of that base for training thr Blk 52s... IAF will eat your whole air force for breakfast ...

 

[acetophenol]

worry about your self only- we love you more than amrikans- -

you took a situation of you ally (china) coming to you help and i took out "allies" coming to our help!

 

[Skull and Bones]

Well this is just what i said- MKI's and F-16 will be assigned defensive roles-

while you'll see alot of JF-17's and Mirages in forward bombing or deep strike roles-

JF-17 deployed for deep strike will be another strategic error for PAF, TBH PAF doesn't have any aircraft for deep strikes role other than F-16s.

JF-17 doesn't have the payload nor the agility required for deep strikes. And for border bombing, even Mirage III is fine but not deep strikes. Just because some PAF aircrafts managed to get into deep Indian territory in 1965, doesn't mean they can do the same now. Google Sword Fish and Super Green Pine radar, you'll get the scenario where PAF is standing now.

 

[JonAsad]

sorry bro if i hurt you.
whats pdf without us fighting like this!

BTW,can you elaborate pakistan's SAM capability.?

its not a fight club- there is alot in PDF other than fighting-
there are lot of scattered Pakistan SAM threads- go through them-

 

[DARKY]

Well this is just what i said- flagship fighters MKI's and F-16 will be assigned defensive roles-

while you'll see alot of JF-17's and Mirages in forward bombing or deep strike roles-

I don't know about Pakistan but Su30MKI would do air-superiority role and most probably F-16 would intercept them... can't imagine a JF-17/F-7 until all F-16s are downed/engaged/hidden in balochistan... It would be the case of 2 F-7 and 2 JF-17 along with F-16s but there would be too many to intercept at too many points.

 

[JonAsad]

you took a situation of you ally (china) coming to you help and i took out "allies" coming to our help!

did i say china will come to help us?-
in an event of war can you just risk ignoring china and take all you aerial assets to Pakistan border?-
and no- the threat china is to you- amrika is not to us-
i am done talking with kids-

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Since JFT is made in Pakistan, we can make as much as we can.

Not unless you have a magic wand which produces an aircraft every time you wave it.

...and lest you forget. MKI is also made in India as soon will be Rafale.

 

[Edevelop]

I've heard many members bringing up that incident, Any link supporting that claim?

Dec 14, 2008, PM: Aircraft Descriptions:

Lahore: 2x Indian Air Force Su-30 (armed) – intercepted and escorted out by 3x Pakistan Air Force F-16s and 3x F-7s
Muzaffarabad: 3x Indian Air Force Mirage 2000 (armed) – intercepted and escorted out by 2x Pakistan Air Force F-16s and 2x F-7s.
BREAKING NEWS: PAF Chases away Indian Jets « Pakistan Ka Khuda Hafiz

People here that have links to PAF have confirmed this....

 

[acetophenol]

Not unless you have a magic wand which produces an aircraft every time you wave it.

...and lest you forget. MKI is also made in India as soon will be Rafale.

as iceing on the cake,we have the capability to produce
1.Mig-21 bisons
2.LCA Tejas
3.BVR missiles

 

[JonAsad]

my point is that in the event china attacks us in anyway,
out allies (its "amerika" and party+russia) will definitly come to India's help.

China will not attack any one- neither i hv said that-
the point i am making is- well leave it-

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Dec 14, 2008, PM: Aircraft Descriptions:

Lahore: 2x Indian Air Force Su-30 (armed) – intercepted and escorted out by 3x Pakistan Air Force F-16s and 3x F-7s
Muzaffarabad: 3x Indian Air Force Mirage 2000 (armed) – intercepted and escorted out by 2x Pakistan Air Force F-16s and 2x F-7s.
BREAKING NEWS: PAF Chases away Indian Jets « Pakistan Ka Khuda Hafiz

People here that have links to PAF have confirmed this....

that was right after 26/11-

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Oh what a great RCS of SU-30 mki.
Aircraft Radar cross section (estimate)
Sukhoi Su-30MKI -------------> 20 square metres
JF17 -------------------> 3-4 Square metres
Dassault Rafale ----------------> 2 square metres
Eurofighter Typhoon ----------------> 1 square metre
Sukhoi Su-35BM ------------------- > 1 square metre
Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk-------------------> 0.025 square metres
Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor--------------> 0.0001 square metres

He he he, too much RCS for SU30 -MKI.
MKI is inviting itself to shoot him.

Counters measures:
1. Enhance AWACS in numbers.
2. Get advantage of F7s, 400 mirage with AWACS. Just matter of see first, then pilot skills.
3. Hack the data link of SU 30 MKI if he comes in our Land. There are pretty good hackers in our country. Just hack their communication with IAF, Not only hack, but also alternate the instructions of CIPs(Common Integrated Processor) of SU 30MKI using virus. Iranian used virus and just alternated the instruction on drone. Hacking data link communication of SU30MKIwill have unique Advantage.
Create hackers, Hack the enemy.