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How many Lt Moid we want to loose before we do these two things ????

Dude even country like Tunisia with far less budget than you when started fight against militants adopted MRAP FIRST THAN went in war
Dude, kindly let me know the strength and ongoing projects plus the hostile entities of Tunisia.

India will wipe out Karachi and Gawader from sea if Navy is not powerful
For that we already prepared and preparing with coastal defense missiles and many signed deals to induct appropriate systems, we can't match India in quantity further they need bigger assets since they are facing bigger threats.

India will wipe out Karachi and Gawader from sea if Navy is not powerful
For that we already prepared and preparing with coastal defense missiles and many signed deals to induct appropriate systems, we can't match India in quantity further they need bigger assets since they are facing bigger threats.
 
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I had a hunch you had no idea what you talk after going through your posts. PA soldiers improvised a covering from inside on the rear window of second cabin. Coverings were also brought up on sides of the rear open area usually painted as flags and an armoured capsule used for Machine gunner, but that protection is never enough.


STOP spreading mis-information about staff cars.

Brigadier level (one star) and above are authorised staff cars for personal use. Staff car can also be taken out station (outside the city) through an indent made from GHQ. A staff car driver may wear civilian clothing after office hours, because the staff car can be privately used at any time. The officer can drive the car himself and can give authorisation to somebody else (apart from driver) to drive the staff car.
A 4x4, usually Land Cruiser/Defender is also authorised for use apart from staff car.
Another vehicle with civilian number plate is also authorised for use, whether personal or professional at certain posts.
This should give you an idea now why 2 or more vehicles are authorised for one officer.

Apart from this, administration vehicles like pickups (Hilux etc) and high roofs (suzuki Bolan) are also authorised to be used, whether personal or professional. For lower officer ranks, these can be had on payment also.

Actually you've no idea. There are no such armored covering into the Hilux crap which goes like a Donkey in real. And do not tell me about the Staff car and it's usage. I believe I know that better than you seeing a lot of them being used into my neighborhood. The shashkay their kids put via those cars. How the budget is being wasted. About the Unit/BDE parties and G2Gs, I don't wanna open up much here.

Dude even country like Tunisia with far less budget than you when started fight against militants adopted MRAP FIRST THAN went in war


Yes ships are needed Navy sucks Army needs to go for MRAP first before working on new Tanks India will wipe out Karachi and Gawader from sea if Navy is not powerful

They already wiped out Karachi in 1971. It was the powershow by Indian Navy. No inquiry was held, no one was punished or disbanded from the service.
 
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Dude, kindly let me know the strength and ongoing projects plus the hostile entities of Tunisia.


For that we already prepared and preparing with coastal defense missiles and many signed deals to induct appropriate systems, we can't match India in quantity further they need bigger assets since they are facing bigger threats.


For that we already prepared and preparing with coastal defense missiles and many signed deals to induct appropriate systems, we can't match India in quantity further they need bigger assets since they are facing bigger threats.
India is not attacking you just feel secure their no matter How crap they talk they are not in position of having a nuclear war if you can order helicopters and lot of other crap on every second day if you have started inducting MRAP each year in medium numbers you would have hundreds of them by now but stop trying to defend the senior leadership here
 
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India is not attacking you just feel secure their no matter How crap they talk they are not in position of having a nuclear war if you can order helicopters and lot of other crap on every second day if you have started inducting MRAP each year in medium numbers you would have hundreds of them by now but stop trying to defend the senior leadership here
I am no one to defend any one but stating a reality is my moral duty, reality is far more different than facebook...with every young casualty seniors needs to answer un-asked questions...it is budget and Govt...i can't share details how many times commanders sent advises for armoured vehicles which fell in deaf ears...it is not all about MRAPS as i said lots if other things involved like mantainance and operating cost...further there are some backdoor discussion for getting them free so stay tuned.....

Casualties happen even troops with MRAPS...

No need to show more love than a mother who sent their son for nation....
 
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Actually you've no idea. There are no such armored covering into the Hilux crap which goes like a Donkey in real.
Actually, i really did sit in one and also my coursemates use many, so yes i have a very good idea of improvisations.

And do not tell me about the Staff car and it's usage. I believe I know that better than you seeing a lot of them being used into my neighborhood. The shashkay their kids put via those cars. How the budget is being wasted. About the Unit/BDE parties and G2Gs, I don't wanna open up much here.
You have only seen staff cars, I have actually used them. Ohh and there is something else you should know, there is a fund allocated for everything you mentioned by GHQ itself, whether it's house, cars, G2G's etc.

You dont want to be told about anything because you have chosen to believe what you want to believe even when you really have no idea how things go on. Its evident from your posts.
 
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More assumed crap.

Every junior officer, whether son of COAS or son of nobody, has to complete HARD AREA tenure. He maybe sent to Siachen, or to Desert or to western front. Unless he completes this tenure, his career cannot proceed. Secondly, if his unit is posted in war zone, he has to join his unit and serve in unit in that area. MS Directorate handles transfers and sends postings based on ACR and OEI.

Bullsh1t! COAS son will NEVER go to a war zone in a toyota pickup with a G3 and a radio. He maybe stationed their but in a comfortable environment.
 
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Bullsh1t! COAS son will NEVER go to a war zone in a toyota pickup with a G3 and a radio. He maybe stationed their but in a comfortable environment.
Oh yes he goes there in a normal pick up with his gun and whatever other equipment. He lives with other officers and eats the same food with other officers.
 
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Oh yes he goes there in a normal pick up with his gun and whatever other equipment. He lives with other officers and eats the same food with other officers.
Oh yes their is no fault in Military because seniors are worshiped like gods.
 
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Seriously How many more 21 year old Lt Moid we plan to loose before we go after ISIS and TTP leadership in Afghanistan and start using MRAP.


Don't give me not applicable crap again. If you can operate 3000 Tanks and 4000 APC and thousands of other trucks than you can have at least 1500 MRAP if you have some brain and care about soldiers
Agree witbh you on this man....a really big loss to the entire country indeed.....having been aware of the volatile situation in the ops area all I would like to ask General sb & the Military command is to stop coming on the media and presenting themselves as some heros....they need to stop playing over the dead bodies of our Martyrs......Military command needs to answer that under what circumstances the Incident occured, what is the past history, what has been learned from the attack. what are we doing to prevent the reoccurence of the attack...
Only if Politicians had the balls, the senate or NA committee should have asked the attendance of COAS or DG MO and answer all these questions.......
 
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Agree witbh you on this man....a really big loss to the entire country indeed.....having been aware of the volatile situation in the ops area all I would like to ask General sb & the Military command is to stop coming on the media and presenting themselves as some heros....they need to stop playing over the dead bodies of our Martyrs......Military command needs to answer that under what circumstances the Incident occured, what is the past history, what has been learned from the attack. what are we doing to prevent the reoccurence of the attack...
Only if Politicians had the balls, the senate or NA committee should have asked the attendance of COAS or DG MO and answer all these questions.......
Turkey alone could have provided us MRAP if we can get loan of 1.5 Billion dollars for Helicopters we would have gotten a loan or use some other way for getting MRAP but the care free and disgusting attitude is mind boggling
 
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That is a question that have been asked DOZENS of times but to this he will never reply!
Judges need to take Suo moto on this, they need to old Military & Political Govt accountable for the loss of Life.......
Govt failed to take any step on this if funding is the issue
 
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Armour protection can be given on local pickups also

Smoke grenades ,on the pick ups would be also nice check that:


STANDARD ARMOURING PACKAGE
Protection Level: B6+ ( 7.62 mm x 51 NATO M80 Ball )


( 7.62 mm x 39 mm AK47/56 )


( 5.56 mm x 45 mm SS109 )


• Protection of entire passenger compartment


• High Quality Multi-Layer Bullet Resistant Glass


• Protection for battery and electronic control module


• Blast protection for underbelly


• Wheels: All 5 wheels are fitted with run-flat inserts


• 10 gun ports for the crew with vision block

• Heavy duty suspension system reinforced as necessary to

compensate for additional weight of armour.





OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT AND ACCESSORIES
• Emergency lights system • Siren/PA/Intercom system

• Fire suppression system • Heavy duty wheels

• HD brake system/components

• Actuators for winding down side BR glasses

• Thick Tacks • Smokescreen • Electric Shock

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That is a question that have been asked DOZENS of times but to this he will never reply!
Exactly, we cant afford to provide armoured vehicles to general army as our limited resources are spent on development and procurement of strategic weapons needed for the survival of the state.
 
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