How Karachi has been discriminated

[The Accountant]

What did Sindhis get in return for their unconditional hospitality since 1947? MQM, Gun Culture, Urban Mafias e.t.c.
Of course Sindh has hosted the likes from every corner of Pakistan, but at what cost?

Excuse me ... What Sindh or Hyderabad before we urdu Speaking came to here ?

After our migration we put our efforts to build this province and now it is developed you are asking what you get ... Go and look over the cities where we urdu Speaking are not ... You Larkana, Baden are more like villages ... Rather than playing this sindh card or this you should work on mutual co-existence nd development of our beloved province by Merit and positive competition ...

Are the NA seats fixed? Are the number of seats assigned not based on the population? If true this nothing but legalized rigging of elections.

Unfortunately yes ... In Pakistan a villager with no education has more powerful vote than a phd . We have National Assembly seats of only 10,000 villagers vs Karachi with above 500K voters for one seat ...

Thats the reason our election are won by thugs ... NS and PPP purchase those land lords of 60% villages who has control over 80% of the seats

 

[gangsta_rap]

Excuse me ... What Sindh or Hyderabad before we urdu Speaking came to here

It is absolutely insulting when 'mohajirs' act as if Sindhis should be grateful of them. Its the other way around, we did what we an to accommodate your forefathers during the partition out of good faith.I try not to judge 'Mohajirs' in this way but their altafist tendancies always pop up one way or another.

The reason why Larkana/Khairpur/e.t.c are in the state in which they are is very obvious. The Pakistan of today was meant to serve very specific ethnic and tribal groups/families. The political and military establishment makes sure that the ones who suffer remain in that state, and that's why rural Baloch and rural Sindhis are left in in this vicious system.

Disgusting how an urdu-speaker shows up and prides himself in occupying a land that belonged to its 5000 year old inhabitants. I can trace my lineage to Noor Muhammad Kalhoro, the Sindhi king who made the first modern Sindhi state. Very disturbing how the sacrifices of the Sindhi forefathers were nullified in 1947.

 

[Zarvan]

There are roughly more people living in once the Capital of Pakistan and Pakistan's industrial and business hub, the largest city of Pakistan, than there dwell in the whole continent of Australia.

Karachi gives shelter to almost as many people as live in the Sindh Province outside Karachi, and as many as live in the whole province of Khaiber Pakhtunkhwa.

Yet, this wonderful city of the colonial era was plundered and ruined again and again and was left at the mercy of armed gangs.

I am a dweller of this city. And I shall tell you of my experience of living here, and the discrimination I feel to be facing.

Let's begin from politics:

There are 61 National Assembly (General) Seats allotted to the Province Sindh. And Karachi's share is only 20.

Khaiber Pakhtoonkhwa has 35 seats though it has almost the same population as of Karachi.

This is an important question, that was not raised and fought by the Muttahida Qaumi Movement which claimed to be representing Karachiites.

Nobody did any discrimination against Karachi. You people chose to vote for monsters and terrorists like MQM and PPP

 

[S.Y.A]

On top of that Karachi soaks up Sindh's budget like crazy

don't lie please. Current Sindh budget is about 10 billion $, and the budget allocated for Karachi is about 50 billion Rs(or $ 500million). It is merely 5% of the entire Sindh budget, while Karachi contributes nearly all of it.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1264238

Disgusting how an urdu-speaker shows up and prides himself in occupying a land that belonged to its 5000 year old inhabitants

Disgusting how "mohajirs" are accused of occupying the land, when they were settled on the land left behind by Hindus and Parsis who migrated to India, and not forcefully grabbed from Sindhis.

It is absolutely insulting when 'mohajirs' act as if Sindhis should be grateful of them. Its the other way around, we did what we an to accommodate your forefathers during the partition out of good faith.I try not to judge 'Mohajirs' in this way but their altafist tendancies always pop up one way or another.

I seriously respect the Sindhis for this, but when Sindhis descend into tirades that look they occupied our land, look they are eating up our budget, it serves to further the agenda of people like altaf hussain. No, Sindhis should not be grateful of "mohajirs", but should at least recognize their contributions, it was families like the Habibs, Dawoods, and Adamjees that invested in Karachi, who moved their businesses to Pakistan from India that gave a kickstart to Karachi's economy. Btw, Sindhi waderas(according to Fatima Bhutto's book) used to think that owning businesses/factories is somehow beneath them.

 

[gangsta_rap]

don't lie please. Current Sindh budget is about 10 billion $, and the budget allocated for Karachi is about 50 billion Rs(or $ 500million). It is merely 5% of the entire Sindh budget, while Karachi contributes nearly all of it.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1264238

50 billion pkr for 'major infrastructure projects', not the entire city or any of the services being conducted by Karachi gov.

I'm pretty sure that given the state of things that the only good that will come out of that money will be MCB tower's windows getting a nice window cleaning service. That's what people consider a major infrastructure project these days.

Disgusting how "mohajirs" are accused of occupying the land, when they were settled on the land left behind by Hindus and Parsis who migrated to India, and not forcefully grabbed from Sindhis.

I have every right to call it an occupation. You cannot deny the armed militant politics that 'mohajirs' initiated. Not even Sindhi nationalists resorted to such (and still don't even though they have the right to). A political party/ideology that hijacks a city through force/arms and intimidation-if thats not an occupation then what is?

 

[salarsikander]

and rural Sindhis are left in in this vicious system.

Blame that to pPP. Itbwas in power for 5 years and it nearly would out the country. To CIA agents visa free entry, to rehman malik giving nadra details, zardari pig siphoning moff money. You must remember nwhat happened in sehwan shareef not a single hospital and you must look at palaces of PPP and benazir maosuluem

 

[S.Y.A]

I have every right to call it an occupation. You cannot deny the armed militant politics that 'mohajirs' initiated. Not even Sindhi nationalists resorted to such (and still don't even though they have the right to). A political party/ideology that hijacks a city through force/arms and intimidation-if thats not an occupation then what is?

no you don't have any right whatsoever to call it an occupation, and please sindhi nationalists didn't resort to it? what world are you living in? frequent land grabbing in suburbs of Karachi initiated by Sindhi nationalists is just a small example of this.

 

[salarsikander]

Not even Sindhi nationalists resorted to suc

They resorted to making sindudesh, GM shed the IG actually tabled a bill for separate land in parliament. Just like pigchakzai of Baluchistan

 

[S.Y.A]

I'm pretty sure that given the state of things that the only good that will come out of that money will be MCB tower's windows getting a nice window cleaning service. That's what people consider a major infrastructure project these days.

Private property, nothing whatsoever to do with Sindh govt or its budget or Karachi's budget, all of these buildings have been built by private money and private investment and private initiative. Please let go of this baseless hate that you have for Karachiites, and all of the propaganda that your leaders have fed you that Karachi eats up all of Sindh's budget, no. Sindh's budget is eaten by by the people of Sindh sitting in the govt, for maintaining bhutto's shrine in Larkana, for maintaining and funding Sindhi ministers' palaces and parties. Btw, did you ever stage a protest against the billions discovered in Sharjeel Memon's house, or did you conveniently blamed it on Karachiites as well?

They resorted to making sindudesh, GM shed the IG actually tabled a bill for separate land in parliament. Just like pigchakzai of Baluchistan

exactly, according to him carrying out anti-state terrorist activities and sabotage is not violent.

 

[gangsta_rap]

no you don't have any right whatsoever to call it an occupation, and please sindhi nationalists didn't resort to it? what world are you living in? frequent land grabbing in suburbs of Karachi initiated by Sindhi nationalists is just a small example of this.

LOL apparently grabbing a few 2 number blocks is an inconceivable crime compared to a certain ethnicity taking over physically and politically a land that belongs to its original inhabitants. Wow.
You've seen the crimes first-hand of altafists. Regardless of what urdu-speakers personally think, the truth is that altafists represent them in every way. The altafists represent the manner in which sindhis were thanked for hosting their fore fathers. sad realities indeed.

Blame that to pPP. Itbwas in power for 5 years and it nearly would out the country. To CIA agents visa free entry, to rehman malik giving nadra details, zardari pig siphoning moff money. You must remember nwhat happened in sehwan shareef not a single hospital and you must look at palaces of PPP and benazir maosuluem

If you haven't noticed, Zardari jumps off and runs away when ever GHQ lifts a finger.
Every.
Single.
Time.

Doesnt that show who really holds the power in this country? Who really decides the course that should be taken.
It shows that Zardari and PPP to an extant are powerless. Like I said a vicious cycle is present in which certain ethnicity in 'Pakistan' are denied their rights.
Sindhis will kill off the Cancer that is PPP anyway. In the next few decades we'll see a renewed phase of nationalism among the suppressed groups in Pakistan

They resorted to making sindudesh, GM shed the IG actually tabled a bill for separate land in parliament. Just like pigchakzai of Baluchistan

He did it in a manner which was appropriate for political leaders. Peacefully and without any destruction of life/property. Compare that to altafists and other militant parties.

 

[Skies]

The private companies should distribute trash bins with their logo in every street instead of spending millions in advertising.

 

[S.Y.A]

not the entire city or any of the services being conducted by Karachi gov.

KMC earns through a separate land tax, based on the size of the property of the individual, and also charges separately for the services of KWSB, it is not allocated a single penny by Sindh govt, did you know that?
Also, a breakdown of Sindh budget:
https://www.dawn.com/news/1337733

LOL apparently grabbing a few 2 number blocks is an inconceivable crime compared to a certain ethnicity taking over physically and politically a land that belongs to its original inhabitants. Wow.

The original inhabitants were the British, the Parsis and the Hindus who left for India, not Sindhis. please at least get your facts straight. Also, what stopped Sindhis from moving to the city and investing in it?

You've seen the crimes first-hand of altafists. Regardless of what urdu-speakers personally think, the truth is that altafists represent them in every way. The altafists represent the manner in which sindhis were thanked for hosting their fore fathers. sad realities indeed.

Well if Sindhis had not first started claiming that Mohajirs are occupying their lands and that they should be forcefully evicted and creating a hateful and racist atmosphere in Sindh, and a Sindhi PM had not force-ably nationalized businesses of "Muhajirs"(HBL, UBL, MCB, ABL are a small example of that), MQM would have never even taken off.

 

[El Sidd]

Nobody did any discrimination against Karachi. You people chose to vote for monsters and terrorists like MQM and PPP

I have a simple suggestion to you. Why don't you just do what you are good at?

You have a a very narrow understanding of your own country politically and culturally. You have borderline extremist issues and it is frightening your knowledge about guns and ammo.

Why don't you take a soul searching holiday? It may help you with your itch.

 

[S.Y.A]

Like I said, take a deep breath, take a step back, and think objectively about it. If a Paksitani moves from one region to another will you call it occupation? If Sindhis were to get jobs in Punjab/Isb, should the Punjabis start calling it an occupation? It is exactly the sort of propaganda and hatred that MQM spreads about Pashtoons and Punjabis, that they are coming here and taking over "Mohajir" jobs, while denying outright that it was the hard labor of Pashtoons that built this city, or it was Punjabis and Pashtuns later on(Gandhara group, Master group, Nishat group etc) who chose to invest in the city and provided employment to thousands of Karachiites.

 

[gangsta_rap]

KMC earns through a separate land tax, based on the size of the property of the individual, and also charges separately for the services of KWSB, it is not allocated a single penny by Sindh govt, did you know that?
Also, a breakdown of Sindh budget:
https://www.dawn.com/news/1337733

You wouldn't trust any of the reports that the so called "Sindh Assembly" keep churning out. It doesn't mean anything. "Sindhi Assembly" is just a country club full of scum who have no interest in uplifting the Sindhi Awam. Things will change once proper Sindhi Socialists take power, but that won't happen in this decade.

The original inhabitants were the British, the Parsis and the Hindus who left for India, not Sindhis. please at least get your facts straight. Also, what stopped Sindhis from moving to the city and investing in it?

The fact remains. Sindhis during the partition we're looking forward to this rosy cooperation utopia trash that you mentioned, but the deception that they were rewarded with instead is a crime against humanity.

Well if Sindhis had not first started claiming that Mohajirs are occupying their lands and that they should be forcefully evicted and creating a hateful and racist atmosphere in Sindh, MQM would have never even taken off.

Ditto