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Yup it will sound a lot funny to people like you whose love for the Islamic Ummah is greater than their love for this country.On the contrary,I am a hard core Nationalist and hence for me the unity and integrity of India comes first,always and anytime.I hope you have understood what i am trying to convey here;)

yeah, keep chanting "i am nationalist" while five more farmers suicide, five more ladies/men are "honor killed" and 200 more die of hunger-related illness.

nationalists should have no place in any intellectual discourse.

and where did i mention anything about ummah??

you are a brain-wash case, man.
 
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you are correct of course, and the "green revolution" ( the wrong one, i should add ) set up in india by usa government basically built upon the unscientific nature of the indian system.

indian government should have worked with the socialist bloc to arrive upon a scientific agriculture system which used collectivization ( multiple farmer families/individuals managing a single land ), neighborhood-level farming in cities ( urban farming ), mechanization and non-harming chemicals to create a situation of easy surplus of food crop which neither caused cancers for the farmer ( like it is happening in punjab ) nor caused other medical troubles for the consumer nor caused poisoning of the ecology nor caused economic misery for the farmer.

this is what venezuela is doing presently...

Urban Agriculture: trying new things in Venezuela | eatcology.comeatcology

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as for farmer suicides in india, i copy below my own post from july...

"it should, for below is how any citizen ( and by consequence, farmers ) in libyan jamahiriya lived...

1. any person interested in engaging in farming was given free land by the system, along with seeds, tools needed and housing, for free.

2. electricity and water was free ( that too in a largely desert country ), and libya had history's largest irrigation system, "the great man-made river" project ( gmrr ).

3. housing for any citizen was to be lived rent-free until the resident wished... rent was considered a compromise on the freedom of the citizen and therefore anti-human.

4. medical system was free, and if treatment was available outside, the costs would be borne by the system.

5. education system was free, and if that course was available outside, the costs would be borne by the system.

6. education was of one's choice and could not be forced by parents or circumstance.

7. food was at low cost.

8. any person interested in establishing a business was given a start-up amount of 20,000 dollars, interest-free.

9. all loans were interest-free.

10. no private banks operated in libya.

11. for a person not in employment, he or she was given the average salary ( stipend ) for the person's choice of field of employment... in fact, this was a coming-down in later years from the early days of the al-fatah revolution... in 1979, a unemployed person was given 7000 dollars per month !!

12. libyan jamahiriya being socialist, all wasteful traditions were frowned upon, like 600-guest four-day weddings like what happens in south asia.

13. at weddings, the bride and groom were together given 50,000 dollars to help them set up a new home etc.

14. car purchase was subsidized by the system.

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so tell me, why would any farmer suicide in libyan jamahiriya, when his material needs had been taken care by the system, leaving him spiritually at ease??"

What you have quoted for farmers makes sense, but all such things are possible only when you have huge amount of money to fund and run an economy based on freebies to farmers. India cannot afford that realistically speaking.

Perhaps some of such points can be adopted and used to suit our condition. I agree.

Venezuela and Libya are oil based economies, huge money to spend and corrupt people/system. Plus they were under authoritarian rulers, there are a lot of things behind the scene which do not see the eyes. It is not as rosy as it looks.

but you have never given them the chance to speak of their vision and ideals.

allow them the platform.

They are struggling and carrying movement for decades. They are always asked by previous and current government to come out, surrender arms and join mainstream politics.

Why is it not done then? Why they don't take up main stream politics?

I believe they know, their survival is too bleak in mainstream, since people have already seen their atrocities and sufferings, they do not stand chance to win fair and square.[/QUOTE]
 
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