How effective is baktar shikan against india's tank?

[Super Falcon]

Eryx is a short-range anti-armour missile system for use by forward infantry and special forces on all terrains and in confined spaces, eg. urban areas. It is produced by MBDA (formerly Aerospatiale-Matra Missiles) of Chatillon, France and by Aerospatiale Canada.

In 1989, France and Canada signed a memorandum of understanding to co-produce the Eryx missile system as a joint venture and it entered service in 1994.

Over 50,000 missiles and 3,200 firing posts have been ordered with 25,000 missiles and 1,600 firing posts produced.

The system is in service with the armies of France, Canada, Norway, Brazil and Malaysia.

Canada has received 435 firing posts and 4,500 missiles, France has more than 400 firing posts and 4,700 missiles and Norway 424 firing posts and 7,200 missiles. Eryx has also been ordered by an undisclosed member of the Gulf Cooperation Council (Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates). Deliveries began in April 1999.

In 1999, Turkey signed a memorandum of understanding with France for licensed production of 10,000 Eryx missiles for the Turkish army, over a ten-year period. In May 2004, the Turkish Ministry of National Defence announced a decision to cancel the project.

In December 2006, MBDA received a contract from the French DGA defence procurement agency for the delivery of a number of Eryx missiles for the French Army and Marines. The missiles are top be delivered between 2008 and 2011.

Eryx is effective against static and moving tanks fitted with all types of armour including ERA (explosive reactive armour) from 50m up to a maximum range of 600m. It is also capable of defeating structures such as concrete bunkers and earthworks. MBDA state that the missile has hit 95% of targets over the last 1,000 practice firings.

"Eryx is ready to fire in under five seconds."Missile system

The Eryx system consists of the missile and launch tube and the firing unit. The system can be either shoulder-launched or from a prone position when mounted on the tripod.

The Eryx missile is wire-guided, optically tracked with semi-automatic command to line-of-sight (SACLOS) guidance. Fitted in the tail of the missile is an infrared beacon, which emits pulses detected by the sight unit. Course corrections are sent via the wire, which is unspooled as the missile is in flight. The missile is thrust vector controlled, which is efficient even at low speed and allows the launching to be achieved using a small propulsion unit. This allows 'soft launch' in enclosed spaces. The rocket motor is manufactured by Roxel France (formerly Celerg), jointly owned by MBDA and SNPE and based at Le Plessis, France.

The missile is ready to fire in under five seconds. During flight (4.3 seconds to 600m), the gunner only has to maintain the sight on the target. Missile speed is 18m/sec at launch, accelerating to 245m/sec at 600m. Up to five missiles can be fired in two minutes. The missile is armed with a 137mm tandem, shaped-charge high-explosive (HE) warhead capable of penetrating up to 900mm of explosive reactive armour.

Thermal imager

The Mirabel thermal imager has been developed for the Eryx missile system by Thales (formerly Thomson-CSF) Optronique of Guyancourt, France, and AlliedSignal Aerospace Canada Inc (now Thales Optronics Canada), of Montreal, Canada.

"Eryx is wire-guided, and optically tracked."Mirabel's modular design allows it to be clipped on to the system's existing direct view optic sight without any need for boresight alignment.

The thermal imager has a field of view of 8 x 6° and it operates in the long-wave (8-12 microns) infrared spectral band. Weight is 3.5kg.

In June 2008, MBDA placed an order with Sagem Defense Securite for 300 new-generation thermal imagers for Eryx firing posts. The new long waveband sight uses uncooled micro-bolometer technology and has a 320x240 focal plane array with a recognition range of more than 600m. It weighs 2.8kg.

Training systems

Basic training for the Eryx can be conducted using the Eryx Interactive Gunnery Simulator (EVIGS), produced by Simtran, Montreal, Canada.

For advanced training, Solartron Systems, a division of Lockheed Martin Information Systems, Orlando, Florida, have developed the Eryx Precision Gunnery Simulator (EPGS), an outdoor laser-based trainer. EPGS has been selected by the Canadian Army to provide precision gunnery training for the Eryx system, with a requirement for 54 systems.

---------- Post added at 04:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:34 PM ----------

Javelin is a portable anti-tank weapon, supplied by Raytheon / Lockheed Martin Javelin joint venture. It is shoulder-fired and can also be installed on tracked, wheeled or amphibious vehicles.

In 1989, the US Army awarded a contract for the development of Javelin as a replacement for the M47 Dragon anti-tank missile. The Javelin joint venture was formed by Texas Instruments (now Raytheon Missile Systems) of Dallas, Texas and Lockheed Martin Electronics and Missiles (now Missiles and Fire Control), of Orlando, Florida.

Raytheon is responsible for the command launch unit (CLU), missile guidance electronic unit, system software and system engineering management. Lockheed Martin is responsible for the missile seeker, missile engineering and assembly.

"Javelin is a shoulder-fired, portable
anti-tank weapon."Javelin entered full-rate production in 1994 and the systems were first deployed in June 1996 by the US Army at Fort Benning, Georgia. The Javelin system saw operational service with the US Army and Marine Corps and Australian Special Forces during Operation Iraqi Freedom in March / April 2003 and is currently deployed in Afghanistan. More than 1,000 rounds have been fired. The CLU is also being used in surveillance operations.

In January 2003, the UK Ministry of Defence announced that it had decided to procure Javelin for the light forces anti-tank guided weapon system (LFATGWS) requirement. The initial order is for 18 launchers and 144 missiles. Javelin replaced the Milan system and entered service with British Army in July 2005.

Javelin equips the army's rapid reaction forces, including 16 air assault brigade, three commando brigade and mechanised infantry. BAE Systems and a number of other UK companies are providing subsystems for the missiles. In October 2004, a further order was placed, to equip the armoured infantry and formation reconnaissance forces from 2007, replacing the Swingfire ATGW.

Over 20,000 missiles have been produced and over 3,000 command launch units. Javelin has also been selected by Taiwan (60 launchers and 360 missiles), Lithuania, Jordan (30 launchers and 110 missiles), Australia (up to 92 systems and 600 missiles), New Zealand (24 launchers, delivered in June 2006), Norway (90 launchers and 526 missiles, delivery from 2006) and Ireland. Canada has also been authorised to make such a purchase, but has not pursued the option to date.

In June 2004, the Czech Republic signed a Letter of Agreement (LOA) with the US government to provide the Javelin system. In November 2004, the United Arab Emirates requested the foreign military sale (FMS) of 100 Javelin launchers and 1,000 missile rounds. In June 2006, Oman requested the FMS of 30 launchers and 250 missiles. In July 2006, Bahrain requested the FMS of 60 launchers and 180 missiles. Contracts for the supply of the missile system to UAE and Oman were placed in July 2008. In October 2008, Taiwan requested the sale of an additional 182 missile and 20 launchers.

Production of the block 1 missile began in 2006. Successful qualification firings took place in January 2007.

"The Javelin anti-armour missile is autonomously guided to the target, leaving the gunner free to reposition or reload immediately."In December 2008, the Javelin JV was awarded a contract to upgrade 404 block 0 command launch units to block 1 configuration. The upgrade is scheduled for completion in spring, 2011.

Missile

The Javelin system consists of the CLU and the round. The CLU, with a carry weight of 6.4kg, incorporates a passive target acquisition and fire control unit with an integrated day sight and a thermal imaging sight.

The sight uses DRS Technologies second-generation thermal imaging technology, based on the standard advanced Dewar assembly (SADA IIIA). The company also provides the quieter, dual-opposed piston coolers for the sight.

The gunner's controls for the missile system are on the CLU. The day sight is equipped with x4 magnification and the night sight with x4 and x9 magnification optics.

The round consists of the Javelin missile and the ATK (Alliant Techsystems) launch tube assembly. The range of the missile is 2,500m. Javelin is a fire-and-forget missile with lock-on before launch and automatic self-guidance.

The missile is equipped with an imaging infrared seeker which is based on a cadmium mercury telluride (CdHgTe) 64 x 64 staring focal plane array in the 8 to 12 micron waveband. BAE Systems Avionics is providing the infrared seekers for the British Army's missiles.

The tandem warhead is fitted with two shaped charges: a precursor warhead to initiate explosive reactive armour and a main warhead to penetrate base armour. The propulsion system is a two-stage solid propellant design which provides a minimum smoke soft launch.

The block 1 missile upgrade includes an improved rocket motor which reduces time of flight, an enhanced warhead effective against a greater range of targets, and improvements to the command launch unit and software.

Operation

The system is deployed and ready to fire in less than 30 seconds and the reload time is less than 20 seconds. The missile is mounted on the CLU and the gunner engages the target using the sight on the CLU, by placing a curser box over the image of the target. The gunner locks on the automatic target tracker in the missile by sending a lock-on-before-launch command to the missile. When the system is locked-on, the missile is ready to fire and the gunner does not carry out post launch tracking or missile guidance.

"The Javelin system is deployed and ready to fire in less than 30 seconds and the reload time is less than 20 seconds."Unlike conventional wire guided, fibre-optic cable guided, or laser beam riding missiles, Javelin is autonomously guided to the target after launch, leaving the gunner free to reposition or reload immediately after launch.

A soft launch ejects the missile from the launch tube to give a low-recoil shoulder launch. The soft launch enables firing from inside buildings or covered positions. Once the missile is clear, the larger propellant in the second stage is ignited and the missile is propelled towards the target. The weapon has two attack modes, direct or top attack.

The gunner selects direct attack mode to engage covered targets, bunkers, buildings and helicopters.

The top attack mode is selected against tanks, in which case the Javelin climbs above and strikes down on the target to penetrate the roof of the tank where there is the least armour protection.

The missile is launched at an 18° elevation angle to reach a peak altitude of 150m in top attack mode and 50m in direct fire mode.

 

[Super Falcon]

The BGM-71 TOW wire-guided heavy anti-tank missile is produced by Raytheon Systems Company. The weapon is used in anti-armour, anti-bunker, anti-fortification and anti-amphibious landing roles. TOW is in service with over 45 armed forces and is integrated on over 15,000 ground, vehicle and helicopter platforms worldwide.

The TOW missile system has been in service since 1970 with more than 650,000 missiles produced. Current production versions are: TOW 2A (BGM-71E), which entered production in 1987 with over 118,000 missiles delivered; TOW 2B (BGM-71F), which entered production in 1991 with over 40,000 missiles delivered and is designed to complement rather than replace TOW 2A; TOW 2B Aero; and TOW 2A bunker buster (BGM-71H).

A production contract for the new extended-range TOW 2B Aero was awarded by the US Army in February 2004. The contract was for 976 missiles, delivered by December 2006. A US Army contract for more than 2,700 TOW 2B and TOW 2B Aero missiles (including practice rounds) was placed in July 2004. TOW 2B Aero with ITAS has been selected for the US Marine Corps' next-generation AAWS-H (anti-armour weapon system-heavy) programme.

"TOW 2 is used in anti-armour, anti-bunker, anti-fortification and anti-amphibious landing roles."In September 2006, the US Army placed the first production contract, with five one-year options, for the new TOW 2B RF missile, a wireless version.

In October 2007, the US Congress was notified of the proposed sale of 2000 TOW 2A missiles to Pakistan and 2000 TOW 2A missiles to Israel.

In November 2007, Canada placed an order for 462 TOW 2A RF bunker buster missiles, the first export order for this missile variant.

In January 2008, Kuwait requested the sale of 2,106 TOW 2A RF and 1,404 TOW 2B RF missiles.

In September 2008, Egypt requested the sale of 6,900 TOW 2A missiles to replace its aging inventory.

The TOW 2 missile system was deployed in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom, which constituted the first operational firing of the TOW 2B missile.

The missiles can be fired from the ground using a tripod-mounted launch tube or installed on vehicles. The TOW missile system can be fitted as a single-tube pedestal mount on military vehicles or as two-tube or four-tube under-armour systems on vehicles such as the improved TOW vehicle M901, Desert Warrior, Piranha, US Marine Corps LAV, Dardo Hitfist and Bradley M2/M3.

Airborne TOW is in service in more than 13 countries. Over 2,100 units have been delivered and helicopters fitted with the TOW missile include the AgustaWestland Lynx, AgustaWestland A129, Bell Textron 206L, UH-1 Huey, Hughes 500MD helicopter, Eurocopter Bo 105 and Bell Textron AH-1 Cobra attack helicopter.

In August 2005, Kuwait requested the sale of 436 (292 TOW 2A, 144 TOW 2B) TOW missiles.

TOW missile
The missile has command to line-of-sight guidance. The weapons operator uses a telescopic sight to view a point on the target and then fires the missile. The missile has a two-stage ATK (Alliant Techsystems) solid propellant rocket motor. The operator continues to view and track the target through the sight. Guidance signals from the guidance computer are transmitted along two wires, which spool from the back of the missile to the control system on the missile. The Chandler Evans CACS-2 control system uses differential piston type actuators.

"The TOW missiles can be fired from the ground using a tripod-mounted launch tube."TOW missile warheads are supplied by Aerojet of Sacramento, California, with production facilities in Socorro, New Mexico.

The missile is fitted with a high-intensity thermal beacon, which provides a long-wave infrared tracking source and a xenon beacon for short-wave tracking. This dual-tracking system provides increased resistance to electro-optical and infrared countermeasures.

TOW 2A anti-tank missile
For penetration of tanks protected with explosive reactive armour (ERA), TOW 2A is equipped with a tandem warhead. A small disrupter charge detonates the reactive armour and allows the main shaped charge to penetrate the main armour.

TOW 2A bunker buster
A 'bunker buster' variant of the TOW 2A, to defeat field fortifications, bunkers and urban structures, has been developed and fielded by the US Army. The TOW 2A bunker buster has a range of 3,750m. It is scheduled to arm the US Army's anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) variant of the Stryker combat vehicle family.

TOW 2B anti-tank missile
TOW 2B, operates in a 'flyover shoot down' top attack mode, unlike other versions which are direct attack. It features a dual-mode target sensor designed by Thales (formerly Thomson-Thorn) Missile Electronics, which includes laser profilometer and magnetic sensor, and new warhead section, produced by Aerojet.

"The TOW 2 missile system was deployed in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom."It resembles the TOW 2A but without the extendible probe, and is armed with two explosively formed tantalum penetrator (EFP) warheads. The EFP warheads detonate simultaneously, one pointing downwards, the other slightly offset to give an increased hit probability. The warhead material is designed to generate pyrophoric effects within the damaged target.

TOW 2B Aero anti-tank missile
An extended range TOW 2B missile, TOW 2B Aero, has a range of 4.5km, which is achieved in only a few seconds longer than the flight time of TOW 2B to 3.75km.

Two modifications are made to the TOW 2B. A longer wire is required for the longer range and a new aerodynamic nose has been fitted to allow stable, controllable flight to the extended range, while using the current propulsion system.

TOW 2B RF anti-tank missile
Another development of the TOW 2B Aero, the wireless TOW 2B RF is in production. TOW 2B RF is modified with a one-way, stealthy radio-frequency command link which dispenses with the wire link and gives a range of 4.5km. The system is compatible with current launchers.

ITAS improved target aquisition system
In 1999, Raytheon Company was awarded a US Army full rate production contract for the TOW improved target acquisition system (ITAS) for the HMMWV launcher and the ground mounted TOW. ITAS uses a thermal imager based on a standard advanced dewar assembly (SADA II) focal plane array, eyesafe laser rangefinder, and a gunner-aided target tracker. ITAS improves target recognition range performance and hit probability.

"The TOW missile has command to line-of-sight guidance."Between 1999 and 2003, the US Army procured 709 ITAS systems.

In April 2005, a contract for the resumption of system production was awarded. The system has been fielded in Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. ITAS has also been bought by Canada for new LAV III vehicles armed with TOW missiles.

TOW FF fire-and-forget missile
In September 2000, the US Army awarded an EMD (engineering and manufacturing development) contract for a wireless TOW fire and forget missile to Raytheon Systems Company. However the US Army cancelled the project in 2002.

TOW FF was to have an advanced imaging infrared staring focal plane array seeker.

Elevated TOW anti-tank missile
An elevated TOW system (ETS) has been developed by an international consortium consisting of Raytheon, GM Delco, Indra of Spain, and E.Falck Schmidt of Denmark.

The system, based on a Danish M113 armoured personnel carrier, uses an elevating mast fitted with a pod containing a lightweight launcher and four TOW launch tubes. In August 1999, the ETS successfully completed demonstration firing tests at the Danish Army Training Centre in Denmark.

 

[Super Falcon]

Kornet E is the name given to the export version of the Russian Kornet missile system. The system, first shown in 1994, has been developed by the KBP Instrument Design Making Bureau, Tula, Russia and is in production and service with the Russian Army and has been sold to the Syrian Army.

Kornet is a third generation system, developed to replace the Fagot and Konkurs missile systems in the Russian Army. It is designed to destroy tanks, including those fitted with explosive reactive armour (ERA), fortifications, entrenched troops as well as small-scale targets. The system can be fitted to a variety of tracked and wheeled vehicles, including the BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle, as well as serving as a standalone, portable system. The self-propelled Kornet missile system is manufactured by the Volsk Mechanical Plant, Volsk, Russian Federation.

It was reported in April 2005 that the Kornet E missile system has been ordered by the government of Eritrea.

MISSILE

The launcher fires Kornet missiles with tandem shaped charge HEAT warheads to defeat tanks fitted with ERA or with high explosive/incendiary (thermobaric effect) warheads, for use against bunkers, fortifications and fire emplacements. Armour penetration for the HEAT warhead is stated to be 1,200mm. Range is 5km.

The missile has semi-automatic command-to-line-of-sight (SACLOS) laser beamriding guidance, flying along the line of sight to engage the target head on in a direct attack profile.

LAUNCHER

The tripod launcher includes optical sight, thermal sight, laying drives, missile launch mechanism and missiles kept in storage and transport containers. The operator uses either optical or thermal sight to detect and track the target. The thermal sight is designated 1PN80 and is produced by the State Institute of Applied Optics (NPO GIPO) of Kazan, Russia.

VEHICLE MOUNTS

The Kornet anti-tank guided weapon system is mounted on a cross-country, armoured chassis based on the BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle which entered production in the late 1980s and is in service with the Russian Army. BMP-3 is a tracked, armoured, amphibious vehicle. It has a 500hp diesel engine, weighs 18.7t and is capable of a maximum speed of 70km/hr and range of 600km. The vehicle is equipped with night vision devices.

The self-propelled Kornet missile system has the capability for automatic loading and the simultaneous launching of two missiles at a single target. 16 missiles can be carried. It has a crew of two.

KLIVER MISSILE / GUN TURRET

The KBP Instrument Design Making Bureau has recently developed the Kliver missile / gun turret based on the Kornet missile system, which can be mounted on a variety of vehicles including the Russian Army's BTR-80 armoured personnel carrier and BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicle. It can also be installed on small ships such as coastal patrol boats.

The Kliver turret carries four Kornet missiles and a 30 mm 2A72 gun. The gun has a range of 4,000m and can fire at the rate of 350 - 400 rounds per minute. There is also a 7.62mm PKT machine gun. Total weight of the turret is around 1,500kg, including ammunition and missiles. The automatic fire control system includes ballistic computer, thermal sight, laser rangefinder and stabilisation system. The turret has a 360° traverse and an elevation of -15° to +60

 

[suleman yousaf]

thanx 4 da info 4 dese atgms but i think dat v r strayin 4m da topic.I plead da honourable members 2 post their theories in a war scenario when it will b

Baktar shikan v/s Indian tanks

 

[Gazzi]

Baktar-Sikan is GenII/wire-guided that means the operator has to concentrate both on the target and at a same time on the tail-flash moreover he also has to control (joystick?) the missile to it's target. It may sound easy to some but keeping your focus on both markers when countermeasures are applied, got to be very difficult.

Interesting point,

when I used to serve in the forces we were trained against such weapons and as such the Israelis had the best possible defence. A weapon like this was almost always fired from a distance and with the noise and smoke given off at the first point of fire it easily gave away the firer's position. Therefore all weapons fire from 12.7mm rounds were focused at or near that specified target area forcing the controller of the missle to duck down causing the missle to go "haywire".

This was a decade or so ago and I know the technology has much improved since then. But the Israelis were very efffective against the Arabs in this field.

Nevertheless, I do believe the Pakistan Army would have paid particular attention to the Israeli/Arab conflict and how this weapon was countered and simply tweek the technology slightly to make it much more effective.

 

[cabatli_53]

Roketsasn OMTAS

The Medium Range Antitank Missile that will be deployed by Land Forces Units in order to eliminate or stop Armored and Mechanised enemy units is designed by ROKETSAN. The weapon system is developed to be used on a tripod or a land vehicle. It will also provide the user direct and top attack modes, fire-and-forget and fire-and-update firing modes, which can be selected on the weapon system before firing. MRAT could also be fired in confined spaces without harming the user.

Inheriting the technology of LRAT, with which it belongs to the same family, MRAT will be equipped with an Imaging Infrared Seeker and will be deployable in day and night and adverse weather conditions, in addition to its capability to update target or hit point with its two-way RF Data Link. In order to increase the hit probability, MRAT also has lock-on after launch capability, and in this mode a mid-course guidance provided by MEMS based Inertial Measurement Unit will be used.

Diameter:160 mm
Range:200 m – 4000 m
Warhead:Tandem – Against Reactive Armors
Guidance:IR Imaging Seeker
Platforms:Land Platforms, Tripod

 

[Chanakyaa]

We can only speculate actually.
We wont know the Reality Till an ACTUAL MISSILE is Tested on a T90.

 

[wild peace]

 

[Sinnerman108]

Sir you were talking about nuclear weapons like its some kind of softball or something..can you imagine the retaliation??..It will be bye bye for all of us

EXACTLY !
why are people spending time, trying to paint reality from hypothetical issue.

PREVENT the bye bye scenario !

spend time appreciating Sushmita Sen.

 

[HAIDER]

Let's make simple, anything strikes the tank with huge boom, even it damage or not damage the hull...its good enough to disrupt the crew attention. Once it disrupt, then crew always look for protective shelter. So, that's one of reason tanks or armored cars are only confined to urban warfare.

 

[black tiger]

Let's make simple, anything strikes the tank with huge boom, even it damage or not damage the hull...its good enough to disrupt the crew attention. Once it disrupt, then crew always look for protective shelter. So, that's one of reason tanks or armored cars are only confined to urban warfare.

Hi, on the otherhand one failed attempt can also embolden the crew and make them go on a rampage, that's why your missiles should be able to do the job everytime.
Regards...

 

[HAIDER]

But shoulder mounted one has enough time to escape from seen. By the time tank crew analyze the direction of incoming ,attacking party has enough time to escape. You have brilliant living example of role of AT in Hizbo-Israel conflict.

 

[Super Falcon]

yes good answer sir and indian anti tank missiles are not that capable in accuracy as baktar shikan is

 

[Sravan]

yes good answer sir and indian anti tank missiles are not that capable in accuracy as baktar shikan is

Hope this helps to know about indian Anti tank capabilities

Nag missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[abbasniazi]

Only the war would be the best test ground for Bakter Shikan and Nag.

I think there is no harm if pakistan and india sell these weapons to some other countries who are fighting wars, that would be the best opportunity to know their effectiveness.