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In shocking news France supports efforts to make a load of money out of India, whilst Indian domestic industry falters....
For most of your history you had a sugar daddy called the Soviet Union. India could not have done what it did in 71 without the Sugar Daddy that is when Pakistan was under a US embargo and China had its own internal challenges.
Of course you never were. You only want others to help you and you would never help them in return during a war.We were NEVER part of any defence pacts.
We PAID CASH to the Soviet Union for all the weapons we bought. Pakistan had been a member of CENTO( Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Turkey and United Kingdom) and SEATO( the United States, France, Great Britain, New Zealand, Australia, the Philippines, Thailand and Pakistan) for decades receiving the latest western weapons FREE and at hugely subsidised rates.
We were NEVER part of any defence pacts. We could never buy from the western states their latest military tech and what we could buy cost an exorbitant amount not being Western Lackies.
We were NOT in the Warsaw Pact.
The Soviets were not our sugar daddies but did sell weapons to us without demanding we join their military defence pacts .
We chose to and remained UNALIGNED and paid our own price for it,
Even today we buy weapons from the old Warsaw pact countries and the west. We are unaligned and will not join defence pacts to serve the interests of the West or the East nor China
You got “Frienship” Prices but the Soviets screwed you on the after sale services the same way the French are doing it to you. Further, it had access to systems that Pakistan could not even imagine getting like AWACs and missile boats. What India paid for upgrades of its MK2, it could have bought brand new jets. Military procurement is not something Indians can be proud off. The Non-Aligned movement was one of the biggest BS of the Cold War. Indian was the biggest recipient of humanitarian aid from the West during this period. You had a Strategic Friendship Treaty with the Soviets and you are a member of the Quad right now. Indians get hand me down uniforms from the Americans in return. The relationship between Pakistan and China is about mutual interest and a common enemy. Pakistan is not serving Chinese interests, it is protecting its own interests with China.We PAID CASH to the Soviet Union for all the weapons we bought. Pakistan had been a member of CENTO( Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Turkey and United Kingdom) and SEATO( the United States, France, Great Britain, New Zealand, Australia, the Philippines, Thailand and Pakistan) for decades receiving the latest western weapons FREE and at hugely subsidised rates.
We were NEVER part of any defence pacts. We could never buy from the western states their latest military tech and what we could buy cost an exorbitant amount not being Western Lackies.
We were NOT in the Warsaw Pact.
The Soviets were not our sugar daddies but did sell weapons to us without demanding we join their military defence pacts .
We chose to and remained UNALIGNED and paid our own price for it,
Even today we buy weapons from the old Warsaw pact countries and the west. We are unaligned and will not join defence pacts to serve the interests of the West or the East nor China
You got “Frienship” Prices but the Soviets screwed you on the after sale services the same way the French are doing it to you. Further, it had access to systems that Pakistan could not even imagine getting like AWACs and missile boats. What India paid for upgrades of its MK2, it could have bought brand new jets. Military procurement is not something Indians can be proud off. The Non-Aligned movement was one of the biggest BS of the Cold War. Indian was the biggest recipient of humanitarian aid from the West during this period. You had a Strategic Friendship Treaty with the Soviets and you are a member of the Quad right now. Indians get hand me down uniforms from the Americans in return. The relationship between Pakistan and China is about mutual interest and a common enemy. Pakistan is not serving Chinese interests, it is protecting its own interests with China.
APU is not an upgrade, it’s a basic necessity. Even Al-Zarrars have those.
Indian T90S tanks are getting pretty old and have absolutely no real upgrades planned or in the works. If you want to see what an upgrade is, look at the Al-Khalid-1 versus Al-Khalid.
I don’t see why you gave me this information, let me repeat, an APU is not an upgrade, it’s a basic necessity on a modern tank that your T90S are missing, even last Gen Pakistani tanks have those. Moreover, why didn’t india make its own APU? Pakistan can make it’s own, so india can too, but they didn’t, see what I mean about Indian ground industries being behind their air industries?APU contract has already been signed with Oshkosh corp.
Only other thing that is needed is an APS for which winter trials were completed very very recently and contract will be signed in end of this FY (just like APU contract was signed in last week of FY 20)
These platforms' tech design was frozen in the early 2010s, the current main platform of PLA are J20, 055, 039C which their's tech design was frozen from the early 2010s till 2015.The J-10C, Hangor, Z-10, VT-4
Of course you never were. You only want others to help you and you would never help them in return during a war.
We PAID CASH to the Soviet Union for all the weapons we bought. Pakistan had been a member of CENTO( Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Turkey and United Kingdom) and SEATO( the United States, France, Great Britain, New Zealand, Australia, the Philippines, Thailand and Pakistan) for decades receiving the latest western weapons FREE and at hugely subsidised rates.
We were NEVER part of any defence pacts. We could never buy from the western states their latest military tech and what we could buy cost an exorbitant amount not being Western Lackies.
We were NOT in the Warsaw Pact.
The Soviets were not our sugar daddies but did sell weapons to us without demanding we join their military defence pacts .
We chose to and remained UNALIGNED and paid our own price for it,
Even today we buy weapons from the old Warsaw pact countries and the west. We are unaligned and will not join defence pacts to serve the interests of the West or the East nor China
What an arrogant shit!There is a huge bubbling concern about how we spend OUR OWN MONEY to buy weapon systems that WE HAVE CHOOSEN.
We do not have sugar daddies like the US or China that provide free and subsidised weapons for lying down and opening our legs wide open.
We PAY HARD CASH to retain our strategic independence, a price we consider ALWAYS worth paying . We do not go whoring for other countries interests.