HOW DID INDIA AND PAKISTAN PULL THIS OFF ???

[M.AsfandYar]

When?

Back in 2002/3.
They need to go, and literally everybody is in agreement.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Dismantling the JeM was the desired outcome of that air strike?

Thank you for confirming my suspicion that we are faced by more flash and very little ninja.

So your forces are even more incompetent than I previously thought, the claim of killing 350 and "top leadership" was supposed to demonstrate this point, but in reality you hit nothing and killed nobody

If the desired outcome was to literally hit a random camp then that shows zero tactical or strategic planning

On the contrary, they got somnolent people to sit up smartly in their overpadded chairs.

Yes and as a result many brave keyboard warriors sacrificed precious accounts on this very forum for advocating nothing short of Pakistani/Kashmiri genocide

Your definition. You are welcome to step across and do something about your abundant concern. Or to send across suitable sacrificial goats.

If your own leaderships claims are to be believed then we already did, and continue to do so on a regular basis

If you consult your own military people, they will seat you down gently and explain patiently that a restless population does not respond to air strikes. Ask them how they know, but only after you have left their vicinity.

I know this but it seems your military people dont, in addition to air strikes they've used rape, mass murder, and torture trying to enforce their occupation.

Thank you. A brilliant explanation for why dogs sniff each other as they do; since they don't have what is restricted to humans, it doesn't matter for them.

Its possible to see such things visually in case you were unaware, but please give my thanks to the general for not transmitting his smell over the internet particularly giving the reputation

Check where the air battle took place; if you are not being physically restrained and injected with mind-deadening chemicals, you can work it out (given a little time, say, a week or so).

You are missing the point once again, if forces are warned and on high alert then any intrusion irregardless of any missile strike should have been detected and neutralised. This is a basic fact and should be easy to logically conclude unless you have perhaps been lobotomised.

One out of eight, and a mysterious pall of silence over the second pilot whom the usually so glib ISPR has shoved so firmly out of sight? Right; carry on.

So now you believe the word of ISPR, nice to see even the brainwashed can acknowledge factual evidence based reporting. Now, as ISPR stated there was only one pilot in custody the fate of the second is unknown, but the report of a second plane being shot out of the sky is still in play according to them.

 

[doorstar]

What were Pakistani losses?

do they not teach Shiv Sainiks to read first, reply after? or is it a comprehension problem. they ought to fire you!

 

[AfrazulMandal]

do they not teach Shiv Sainiks to read first, reply after? or is it a comprehension problem. they ought to fire you!

They can't.

What is the final loss count for Pak? i am getting conflicting reports from everywhere.

Back in 2002/3.
They need to go, and literally everybody is in agreement.

Do you use and throw Mujaheedin with public support?

 

[Joe Shearer]

As the Air Chief has said they struck the targets, others made the casualty claims. If you know what PGMs can do, you wouldn't be talking with such bombast! Look up CEP.

So your forces are even more incompetent than I previously thought, the claim of killing 350 and "top leadership" was supposed to demonstrate this point, but in reality you hit nothing and killed nobody

You mean you were lying when you told the world the camps were abandoned?

If the desired outcome was to literally hit a random camp then that shows zero tactical or strategic planning

And when the PAF is doing it, it shows world-class tactical and strategic planning?
Tera kutta 'kutta', mera kutta Tommy.

Yes and as a result many brave keyboard warriors sacrificed precious accounts on this very forum for advocating nothing short of Pakistani/Kashmiri genocide

Quick! Follow them. Find out what nefarious plots they are hatching!!

If your own leaderships claims are to be believed then we already did, and continue to do so on a regular basis

Why don't you change your nick to Jack Sparrow? Every post is a different standpoint. LOL.

I know this but it seems your military people dont, in addition to air strikes they've used rape, mass murder, and torture trying to enforce their occupation.

Remind me how it goes:"People in glass houses....."

Its possible to see such things visually in case you were unaware, but please give my thanks to the general for not transmitting his smell over the internet particularly giving the reputation

Have you ever thought of volunteering your services to Le Cirque Soleil? You could be earning mega-bucks.

You are missing the point once again, if forces are warned and on high alert then any intrusion irregardless of any missile strike should have been detected and neutralised. This is a basic fact and should be easy to logically conclude unless you have perhaps been lobotomised.

If I had been lobotomised, I would have been posting like you. What do you think your leadership did after listening to Modi threaten retribution? Turn over in bed and say,"Put the light off and go to sleep, darling"?f

[/quote]So now you believe the word of ISPR, nice to see even the brainwashed can acknowledge factual evidence based reporting. Now, as ISPR stated there was only one pilot in custody the fate of the second is unknown, but the report of a second plane being shot out of the sky is still in play according to them.[/QUOTE]

In your book, 'glib' means 'credible'? If I were you I'd ask for a refund of my school fees.

Why don't you win a medal and suggest to your ISPR that the second aircraft was a UAV? That saves them the embarrassment of admitting that the pilot whom your villagers beat to death was a Pakistani?

 

[doorstar]

They can't

so you are one of the big fuhrers then

What is the final loss count for Pak? i am getting conflicting reports from everywhere.

around 14 people and many villages flattened. Your "braveheart pilots" first target and destroy Pakistani trees and crows, then when response comes start bumping into one another.

then your artillery "braves" start demolishing village after village, which had to be evacuated. then when Pakistan artillery pounds them back, they calm down a little making bakshi very unhappy.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

so you are one of the big fuhrers then
around 14 people and many villages flattened. Your "braveheart pilot" first target and destroy Pakistani trees and cross, then when response comes start bumping into one another. then your artillery "braves" start demolishing village after village, which had to be evacuated. then when Pakistan artillery pounds them back, they calm down a little making bakshi very unhappy.

yeah. very big.

Does not sound like a Pak victory anymore.

 

[PakSword]

It is noted that in your view, the reports in these publications equate to those of military analysts. Not terribly surprising.

Which military analysts?

Pakistanis.

Please dispense with the 'incompetence' barbs. The IAF and IA are professional military forces as are the PAF and PA. Stick to arguing with the facts.

Yeah you are right, they are competent.. problem is that their government is a habitual liar..

The current regime has put a question mark on the capability of its security forces. A figure of 300-400 hasn't helped them..

When the shots were missed, they could have come up with a better story, like they tried but missed, next time they would hit the target.. or a with a lie, such as these were the warning shots.

Now claiming F-16 will again deepen the dent on their credibility in case Pakistan releases the exact number of F-16 in inventory..

 

[Flash_Ninja]

As the Air Chief has said they struck the targets, others made the casualty claims. If you know what PGMs can do, you wouldn't be talking with such bombast! Look up CEP.
You mean you were lying when you told the world the camps were abandoned?

Well first your media claiming sources from the government claimed 350 casualties, then your government spokesmen stated "a high number of casualties", now the accepted narrative is that there were zero casualties.

Wow such confidence! Such Precision!

And when the PAF is doing it, it shows world-class tactical and strategic planning?
Tera kutta 'kutta', mera kutta Tommy.

The difference is that PAF deliberately fired near but not on the target, it serves as a demonstration whereas IAF deliberately aiming for those camps using the Israeli guidance tech were unable to hit anything.

Why don't you change your nick to Jack Sparrow? Every post is a different standpoint. LOL.

You straw-manned and brought up irrelevant points throughout your posts, maybe you should change your nick to a Pot or Kettle

Remind me how it goes:"People in glass houses....."

...and that goes double for you

Have you ever thought of volunteering your services to Le Cirque Soleil? You could be earning mega-bucks.

If I was interested in the circus activities I would cross into India and try and become a general or politician, but thanks anyway

If I had been lobotomised, I would have been posting like you. What do you think your leadership did after listening to Modi threaten retribution? Turn over in bed and say,"Put the light off and go to sleep, darling"?f

Yes and we saw the magnificent effect of that retribution, it has become a running joke on this very forum!

In your book, 'glib' means 'credible'? If I were you I'd ask for a refund of my school fees.

Why don't you win a medal and suggest to your ISPR that the second aircraft was a UAV? That saves them the embarrassment of admitting that the pilot whom your villagers beat to death was a Pakistani?

Ah yes from the invisible plane that was shot out of the sky using invisible missiles and instantaneously disintegrated, and the pilot suddenly forget his language, and uniform, and military identification, before being beaten by evil dumb kashmiris who just arent intelligent enough to tell the difference

Sounds like your the one who should ask for a refund.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Well first your media claiming sources from the government claimed 350 casualties, then your government spokesmen stated "a high number of casualties", now the accepted narrative is that there were zero casualties.

I'm so glad to see your confidence in our media and their authenticity. There's a chap named Arnab Goswami who'd like to talk to you; he's looking for people like you all the time, and it's strange how many he gets!

There's no accepted narrative; the Air Chief said they hit their targets, others made the casualty claims.

Wow such confidence! Such Precision!

The difference is that PAF deliberately fired near but not on the target, it serves as a demonstration whereas IAF deliberately aiming for those camps using the Israeli guidance tech were unable to hit anything.

Yeah, right.

I've said it before, I'm saying it again; for dull students, there is no option but to repeat a lesson several times!
Tera kutta kutta, mera kutta Tommy.

You straw-manned and brought up irrelevant points throughout your posts, maybe you should change your nick to a Pot or Kettle

Since somebody has already told you about straw man, look up 'tu quoque'.

...and that goes double for you

If I was interested in the circus activities I would cross into India and try and become a general or politician, but thanks anyway

If you cross over anything anywhere, you'll land up in Ireland or in France. Or haven't you got to geography yet in school?

Yes and we saw the magnificent effect of that retribution, it has become a running joke on this very forum!

Coo! Is that why you were running around? Thank Heavens! There was a rumour going around you wanted out.

Ah yes from the invisible plane that was shot out of the sky using invisible missiles and instantaneously disintegrated, and the pilot suddenly forget his language, and uniform, and military identification, before being beaten by evil dumb kashmiris who just arent intelligent enough to tell the difference

You said it about the Kashmiris. And I thought it was the great ISPR that mentioned two planes? Now it's invisible, is it? And have you seen that very visible missile named the R73? No?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-73_(missile)

Ask someone to read out the hard bits.

Sounds like your the one who should ask for a refund.

Of course I should. If I wasn't mental, I wouldn't be exchanging posts with a .... oh, oh, I can't say it, I'll get banned!

 

[M.AsfandYar]

Let me put this way. No one will bat an eye when clamping down begins, and it will begin soon. Their own will turn on them, like in TLPs case.

They can't.

What is the final loss count for Pak? i am getting conflicting reports from everywhere.


Do you use and throw Mujaheedin with public support?

 

[Flash_Ninja]

I'm so glad to see your confidence in our media and their authenticity. There's a chap named Arnab Goswami who'd like to talk to you; he's looking for people like you all the time, and it's strange how many he gets!

There's no accepted narrative; the Air Chief said they hit their targets, others made the casualty claims.

Hey I never said I had confidence in them, im stating that your media used information sourced from the government; while your government officials eventually reduced it to a high number of casualties

Now your air chief is saying they hit their targets? What was that then, I dont think hurting JeM's forestry division was the goal so what was it then?

Yeah, right.

I've said it before, I'm saying it again; for dull students, there is no option but to repeat a lesson several times!
Tera kutta kutta, mera kutta Tommy.

Your military admitted the PAF original targets were military, so its completely different

Since somebody has already told you about straw man, look up 'tu quoque'.

...and I suggest you look up the 'argument from fallacy'

If you cross over anything anywhere, you'll land up in Ireland or in France. Or haven't you got to geography yet in school?

I see it hasn't quite reached you yet but fortunately in the civilised world we have access to amazing wonders such as boats and planes!

Coo! Is that why you were running around? Thank Heavens! There was a rumour going around you wanted out.

Well, you shouldn't believe everything you hear

You said it about the Kashmiris. And I thought it was the great ISPR that mentioned two planes? Now it's invisible, is it? And have you seen that very visible missile named the R73? No?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-73_(missile)

Ask someone to read out the hard bits.

The great ISPR did mention two planes, and so did the PM, and other officials. The thing is that they were two planes in service with the IAF.

Of course I should. If I wasn't mental, I wouldn't be exchanging posts with a .... oh, oh, I can't say it, I'll get banned!

No dont say it, I'd love such a source of buffoonery and arrogance to remain on this forum

 

[doorstar]

Pora pora gondho pachhi je!

 

[Joe Shearer]

Hey I never said I had confidence in them, im stating that your media used information sourced from the government; while your government officials eventually reduced it to a high number of casualties

Now your air chief is saying they hit their targets? What was that then, I dont think hurting JeM's forestry division was the goal so what was it then?

You aren't doing your homework. Look up CEP.

Your military admitted the PAF original targets were military, so its completely different

Yeah. The bombs were wearing their medals.

...and I suggest you look up the 'argument from fallacy'

I did.

It said,"Flash_Ninja doesn't know whether he's coming or going, so he's using the cuttlefish gambit." Wonder what that meant.

I see it hasn't quite reached you yet but fortunately in the civilised world we have access to amazing wonders such as boats and planes!

We know, we know.

Mumbai 26/11/2008 - boats
Kandahar 24/12/1999 - planes

You'd better not talk too loud; the Brits are kicking out terrorist sympathisers.

Well, you shouldn't believe everything you hear

What about reading? The stuff you write, for instance?

The great ISPR did mention two planes, and so did the PM, and other officials. The thing is that they were two planes in service with the IAF.

Imagine! It was 32 squadrons till just the other day! How time flies and planes don't!!

No dont say it, I'd love such a source of buffoonery and arrogance to remain on this forum

OK, so you said it for me. Thanks. LOL.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

You aren't doing your homework. Look up CEP.

That becomes less relevant depending on the systems, the actual strike were no where near the alleged training camp

I did.

It said,"Flash_Ninja doesn't know whether he's coming or going, so he's using the cuttlefish gambit." Wonder what that meant.

Hmm, resorting to ad-hominem attacks. Well, You clearly dont have anything else important to say

We know, we know.

Mumbai 26/11/2008 - boats
Kandahar 24/12/1999 - planes

You'd better not talk too loud; the Brits are kicking out terrorist sympathisers.

Wow, I didnt think someone could stoop so low but accusing someone of being a terrorist sympathiser to try and end an argument is frankly just pathetic

What about reading? The stuff you write, for instance?

Its clearly got you upset

Imagine! It was 32 squadrons till just the other day! How time flies and planes don't!!

*Correction* IAF planes don't.

Nobody was claiming 32 squadrons please stop inventing lies

OK, so you said it for me. Thanks. LOL.

Its nice to make the elderly feel useful in todays society, your role is to be that arrogant buffoon and you do it so well! so you're welcome